I don't think it derailed it at all. I think it is very pertinent background for putting the Evoke in context.
induction vaping? whaaaaat? should have seen this coming
- Thread starter hey blinkin
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
I don't think it derailed it at all. I think it is very pertinent background for putting the Evoke in context.
I actually agree. Anyone thinking about getting one for eliquid should know the evoke's primary market and understand what that could potentially mean.
More advanced in some ways, yes, but at first glance I think the other vaping community may be paying more attention to the long-term health hazards contributed by the vaping devices they are using. (I'm not talking here about what's being vaped, that's a different discussion.) I think that's because the ex-cig e-vapers are coming from a mindset of harm reduction, so even if a device adds some measurable health hazards of its own, it's still a vast improvement over cigarettes. I think that mindset is probably less widespread in the other vaping world. But I'm just learning about the other vaping community, I reserve the right to change my mind about that.
It's fair to say they're concerned about health risks. Most of them stopped smoking it and started vaping it because they knew they were putting carcinogens into their body or just couldn't handle smoking it because of chemo and whatnot. It's similar in that regard.
What I think the E-voke will lose out on against current vapes and mods is the fact that with our current vapes a lot of the pieces are interchangeable thus making your vape truly your own. This is especially true when it come to mods.There's so many variations when it comes to mods and atomizers and ontop of that theres also the difference in people's builds. So many variations that when ever i meet a new vaper i always learn something new when they explain their build to me.
Unless the evoke can implement the same idea interchangeability and customization, i dont think it will surpass our current vapes and mods. But this is just My Oppinion of course.
Unless the evoke can implement the same idea interchangeability and customization, i dont think it will surpass our current vapes and mods. But this is just My Oppinion of course.
Evoke’s induction heating vs all portable vaporizers
http://www.lotolabs.com/img/indienew_08-infographic.gif
http://www.lotolabs.com/img/indienew_08-infographic.gif
I'm sorry, but this is the future of vaping - ICIG 2014 Bluetooth Muses Vapor E Cig!!!!! 
There are a number of problems with this concept.
First, the mesh is not likely to be stainless. For efficient induction you need a strongly ferrous material, like iron. And there is a wick (it's the mesh) and a coil (which is outside the glass). But induction heating requires high-frequency energy (in the RF range) so the product would have to meet FCC regulation (which will be fairly onerous for a device like this). Not to mention that it will need to be magnetically shielded, so it doesn't heat up your wedding ring (or tongue stud!)
And look at the coil they're using in their demo - a huge coil made from copper tubing. And if you noticed, it took a while to heat up the glycerine enough to vaporize it.
Compare this approach to one using something like a halide bulb. A coil, inside a quartz-glass envelope, heated by conventional DC, The e-liquid would only come in contact with the outer glass (which could be etched and/or channeled for better wicking, or even have a wick wrapped around it). Much simpler design, much more do-able, and more advantages, as the glass is much less reactive than iron or steel would be.
Sorry, I don't think the evoke is ever going to fly. Interesting concept, unlikely to succeed.
First, the mesh is not likely to be stainless. For efficient induction you need a strongly ferrous material, like iron. And there is a wick (it's the mesh) and a coil (which is outside the glass). But induction heating requires high-frequency energy (in the RF range) so the product would have to meet FCC regulation (which will be fairly onerous for a device like this). Not to mention that it will need to be magnetically shielded, so it doesn't heat up your wedding ring (or tongue stud!)
And look at the coil they're using in their demo - a huge coil made from copper tubing. And if you noticed, it took a while to heat up the glycerine enough to vaporize it.
Compare this approach to one using something like a halide bulb. A coil, inside a quartz-glass envelope, heated by conventional DC, The e-liquid would only come in contact with the outer glass (which could be etched and/or channeled for better wicking, or even have a wick wrapped around it). Much simpler design, much more do-able, and more advantages, as the glass is much less reactive than iron or steel would be.
Sorry, I don't think the evoke is ever going to fly. Interesting concept, unlikely to succeed.
I think you've made a number of good points here, especially about the requirements for shielding.
Just my $0.02, but ultrasonic atomisers may be the way of the future. Never seen any mention of them but worth thinking about when you see the mist that comes off those devices that are put in ponds / indoor water features.
(Make a note of this - it's public disclosure/prior art etc... so no money grabber can patent the idea )
(Make a note of this - it's public disclosure/prior art etc... so no money grabber can patent the idea
)- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked