Info to help fight FED/FDA Overregulation & Antifreeze claims...

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I can't post this to the Global Thread (I'm a newbie and only a rare visitor), so I'll post it here, and if anyone feels it is appropriate, feel free to pass it on to over there.

People are supporting the idea of e-cig bans and FDA strangulation because the antismoking lobby has brought a good part of its strength to bear on the vaping community. They will use the same types of lies against you tht they've used for 30 years against smokers, waving innocent children in the air, yelling about the right to breathe clean, vape-free air, and girding themselves up to, at a minimum, profit heavily off taxing Vapers to hell 'n back.

People hear things like "There's deadly antifreeze in that vapor!" and immediately react in the same sort of way they've been trained to react toward tobacco smoke. You need to be able to show them, simply and clearly, that the claims are based on lies. To that end I devoted over twenty pages in my new book, TobakkoNacht -- The Antismoking Endgame, specifically to the War On Vapers, and I have reproduced one of its more powerful arguments, an analysis of the FDA "antifreeze" study that's pulled out to support ecig bans all over the place, on my main website. You can read it here:

http://www.tobakkonacht.com/PDF/TNSite-SlabVIII-OfVaporsAndVapers.pdf

and feel free to copy/use it as you wish, though attribution is always appreciated.

Keep on fighting! And don't EVER agree to any unreasonable compromise: once you cross the line of reasonableness there's no other line in the sand before you hit full prohibition: everything in between just becomes step-by-step.

- MJM
 

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Interesting read. Keep posting and you will have enough posts to take this to the Global thread yourself. I am a relative newbie myself and don't know how to actually post it myself. Keep posting and you will get there fast enough. I believe there is so much misconception about vaping because it "looks like" smoking that the stereotype follows the same thought process. I have been vaping for 5 weeks today and know what it has done for me. There are too many people that take FDA claims and treat them as gospel. No matter how flawed the research is. No matter the findings. This is just one of many issues concerning the Amercan health opportunities that are controlled by special interests and the lobbyists in Washington. Tamper with the money and you are automatically EVIL!!!:headbang:
 

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I can't post this to the Global Thread (I'm a newbie and only a rare visitor), so I'll post it here, and if anyone feels it is appropriate, feel free to pass it on to over there.

People are supporting the idea of e-cig bans and FDA strangulation because the antismoking lobby has brought a good part of its strength to bear on the vaping community. They will use the same types of lies against you tht they've used for 30 years against smokers, waving innocent children in the air, yelling about the right to breathe clean, vape-free air, and girding themselves up to, at a minimum, profit heavily off taxing Vapers to hell 'n back.

People hear things like "There's deadly antifreeze in that vapor!" and immediately react in the same sort of way they've been trained to react toward tobacco smoke. You need to be able to show them, simply and clearly, that the claims are based on lies. To that end I devoted over twenty pages in my new book, TobakkoNacht -- The Antismoking Endgame, specifically to the War On Vapers, and I have reproduced one of its more powerful arguments, an analysis of the FDA "antifreeze" study that's pulled out to support ecig bans all over the place, on my main website. You can read it here:

http://www.tobakkonacht.com/PDF/TNSite-SlabVIII-OfVaporsAndVapers.pdf

and feel free to copy/use it as you wish, though attribution is always appreciated.

Keep on fighting! And don't EVER agree to any unreasonable compromise: once you cross the line of reasonableness there's no other line in the sand before you hit full prohibition: everything in between just becomes step-by-step.

- MJM

Hello and welcome to ecf.

Click on the CASAA link in my signature. You can join vapers to help fight the FDA regs and all harm reduction methods. CASAA is free. Look under the blogs section for reports.

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Thank you Sugar! :) I believe I'm already a member though I'm not intimately active with it other than posting to some articles that they mention in emails and such.

However I wanted to let you know that the link from neither the word CASAA nor any signature link? seemed to take me there!

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that is strange. I just tried it and it took me to CASAA. When you place your mouse over the image, look and see if you see the url. I usually see where the url's are by looking at the lower left part of my screen. Also, the reports portion is under the menu of Fact and science on the CASAA site.(sorry)Look forHarm reduction- then lab reports

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edit. Here is a direct link for you

Lab Reports: ecigarettes
 
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