Inner wick sticking out from under atomizer bridge

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ceo51378

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If your wick is burning up, you are probably not putting enough juice on it. If you are using the stock cart filler (polyfil), you are most likely burning up your atty. These 510's run a hell of a lot hotter than most other atty's out there and the stock polyfil just doesn't cut it. I usually drip my 510 and have never had a burnt taste. One the few occasions I'm in an 'un-drip-friendly' area (like the car), I use the blue foam plug mod http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-foam-plug-updated-v2-0-slug-search-over.html

I'm on my same atty (3.5 months old) and the wick is still white(after cleaning) and unburnt. When the atty gets harder to draw and heats up more, I clean it with Crest Pro Health mouthwash; soak it for 2 hours, blow it out, rinse in hot water, and dry overnight.
 

bdsimpkins

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I have experienced the same... My therory(s);

Sometimes a TERRIBLE burnt taste which I think is mostly due to burning the (stock) cartridge filter material - they really aren't the greatest design. These filters, once burnt, retain the burnt flavor even after topping off many, many times. Pulling the filter and cleaning them does help somewhat.

With the PTB filters (which wick much better than the stock filters), I can vape until a mild burnt taste - then re-fill as the cart is almost allways dry. However, if I constantly vape until this taste the PTB must be cleaned, as this taste will linger longer and longer each time.

With NO Filter - just dripping onto the atty, after many vapes the burnt taste is somewhere between the stock filter (very bitter) and the PTB (mildly bitter).... So my thought is that I'm now burning the atty wick. This "wick" burnt taste will go away with 3-4 puffs on a re-dripped atty.

Does this match with anybody else's findings?
 

a2dcovert

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You guys are pretty close to what is really going on. The stock filler material will sometimes get caught in atty bridge and it will give off the burnt taste. There is another taste that is similar to that which some call the harsh taste. This can happen no matter what filler you are using and is due to the atty going dry. This is very common using the stock cart. The filler material in the stock cart is not designed to wick as fast as most people, including myself, need. The remedy in a lot of cases is to make modifications to the cart which increase the wicking speed of the cart. The cartridge section of the modders forum has many different threads of processes that meet that objective. The important thing is to allow the liquid to wick fast enough to keep the atty wet and also to not too fast which will result in leaking.

The wicking in the atty bridge is actually a fiberglass wick. It is used in glass oil lamps and is really very stable at high heat. At best it can be singed but I don't think it is responsible for the burnt taste that many experience. Usually the brown color of this wick is due to the juice and will normally return to almost white color by cleaning the cart.

It is important to not remove the pieces of the wick that are dangling from the atty bridge. This piece of the wick is necessary to keep the atty performing properly.
 

Kurt

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Hi

Can someone post a link to a pic showing the wick in a atty please (if there is one). I just bought 2 more new spares and Im not sure I see what is ment by the wick. I see the coil thingy and what appears to be a ring at the bottom. Thanks in advance.

I don't have pics, but I think I can describe it. When you look inside the atty, you will see the bridge. It is the gray metal mesh half-loop that sticks up in the center. That is not the coil. The bridge does not have current going through it, it only gets warm from the coil and sticks into the juice and wicks the juice to the coil. The coil itself is down under the bridge, inside the white ceramic rectangular plate at the base of the bridge.

The wicks are white fibers that are under the bridge. Like a bush growing out from under an arched bridge. Removing them is a crap shoot. Over time they can get dark and burned and clogged up with caramelized juice matter. Removing them should only be a last resort, when cleaning the atty (hot water flushes, Crest Health-pro mouthwash, or in difficult cases vodka or PGA, last resort) does not unclog them. Be forewarned that even if you are very careful about removing the wicks with tweezers, the wick might be wrapped up with the coil connections, and removing the wick might kill the atty completely.

My own experience with the 3 attys I tried this with was this:

Atty was permanently clogged, or so I determined after several soaks and washes. Removed the wick slowly and carefully. Atty without the wick vaped like a freight train, killer vapor, outrageous TH, and ran quite cool. Yes!! And then after 20 minutes, it died suddenly. Cold. Dead. History. Gotta say I hope I go like that: top of my game, kickin' ... and taking names, then suddenly face down, gone. But I don't like it when the attys go like that. Three out of three did this, so I don't remove the wicks any more.

Some have done this and the atty worked great for quite a while, however, those wicks are designed to do just that: wicked juice to the coil. Without them, you may have to drip only.

The 510 wicks are part of their design, and much of the reason the 510 atty works so well in general. Removing them as a last resort to solving a clog might work, but your chances of atty death are very high, and it might not work well with a cart even if it doesn't die. Look into the various cleaning methods before you try to solve a clog problem by removing the wicks.
 

Scottbee

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Hi

Can someone post a link to a pic showing the wick in a atty please (if there is one). I just bought 2 more new spares and Im not sure I see what is ment by the wick. I see the coil thingy and what appears to be a ring at the bottom. Thanks in advance.

If you are seeing what looks like a metal ring at the base of your atty (down inside), then you probably don't have genuine Joye 510 atties....
 
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