Innovative or ignorant? I vote ignorant...

[Ryedan]

Jay-dub, check out an example of a spiral coil here. Post #2085. Pretty slick

 

[Jazzi Mike]

There was a thread in the rba section about this idea. I think the guy that tried it said it got gummy too quick. If you use a clearomizer, after you have been vaping on it for a while, it starts to get funky where the coil turns juice into vapor. I agree, it sounds cool, but there is not a total way to make it work.

Some of the RBA threads, discuss creating a micro coil and putting a blanket of cotton around it. This seems to be working well for the people who tried it.

 

[Jay-dub]

You guys are awesome for all the input. Wish I was good at making schematics. I'm totally thinking of a kitchen stove-top when I picture this setup. They have ceramic tops but that might be too porous. I want zero chance of leaking. They have glass tops. Hmmm... I wonder if you could get a thin piece of glass (sort of like a micro-scentsy) that is strong enough to withstand heating and cooling, slightly bowl-shaped and could be easily wiped clean. Another positive side of glass is that it has no effect on flavor what-so-ever. Spiral a coil to the bottom side of the glass and never have a dirty coil. Have the ignition button slide up before completing the circuit to pump a drop or two of liquid into the glass micro-bowl just as it starts getting heated. The pump could lead directly to the "stove-top" lessening the chance of any liquid getting into any unwanted places. Damn. I need two more people. One smart and one talented.

I've been thinking so much about the heating system and how to make it easier to clean and vape more efficiently, along with a better liquid delivery system than a wick - that I've overlooked airflow. Shouldn't be a game changer though. Just need to get air in without letting liquid out. LOL! One more day till payday!

 

[Ryedan]

I wonder if you could get a thin piece of glass (sort of like a micro-scentsy) that is strong enough to withstand heating and cooling, slightly bowl-shaped and could be easily wiped clean.

You're really thinking outside the box here

Having said that, I had a few thoughts after reading your post. Our coils are kept cool because the juice is in contact with them and transfers the heat so well. This is why you can put a waxed paper container with water in it on a fire and the paper won't burn while the water heats up. Put a coil under glass and you would have to either form the glass around the coil or use a heat transfer medium to make proper contact between the coil and the glass. Also, Pyrex can take a lot of heat, but I doubt it would hold up long to vaping heat cycles. 200 hits a day over a month is 6,000 very short, quick cycles. There is also the issue of heat up time so thin is better as you said, but that means more stress on the glass. There are other materials you could use too which would stand up better. I see lots of experimenting in your future!

I agree airflow can be achieved without too many problems. You could try making the heating element/glass cover like a dished doughnut and have the air flow through the center.

Well, I don't want to put a damper on your idea! Just trying to help a bit by sharing my thoughts. More ideas are always a good thing

Now go for it and best of luck with it!

 

[Fusselkater]

They all think I'm crazy but I say we should heat up the liquid with Lasers.
Maybe in your micro bowl made from metal or something like that.

One day we'll build it.

Or a Fresnel lens on the side, using the sun to power it.

OK, back to your idea, my ideas drain the batteries or start fires.

 

[Jay-dub]

You're really thinking outside the box here

Having said that, I had a few thoughts after reading your post. Our coils are kept cool because the juice is in contact with them and transfers the heat so well. This is why you can put a waxed paper container with water in it on a fire and the paper won't burn while the water heats up. Put a coil under glass and you would have to either form the glass around the coil or use a heat transfer medium to make proper contact between the coil and the glass. Also, Pyrex can take a lot of heat, but I doubt it would hold up long to vaping heat cycles. 200 hits a day over a month is 6,000 very short, quick cycles. There is also the issue of heat up time so thin is better as you said, but that means more stress on the glass. There are other materials you could use too which would stand up better. I see lots of experimenting in your future!

I agree airflow can be achieved without too many problems. You could try making the heating element/glass cover like a dished doughnut and have the air flow through the center.

Well, I don't want to put a damper on your idea! Just trying to help a bit by sharing my thoughts. More ideas are always a good thing

Now go for it and best of luck with it!

I've always been more of an explorer-type personality. I'm not good at implementation or planning but those are things that just require me to exercise some discipline. Anyhow - I did a google search for "heat conductive glass" and got a lot of hits. Here's one example: Hybralox High Thermal Conductivity Glass | Thermally Conductive Materials

Obviously, I'm convinced there's a long way to go for vaping to be as easy and trouble free as it can be.

 

[Cr0tchF4i]

I can't remember the tag, but bring the guy who made a grilled cheese on a spiral coil to fab something up.

Also OP, you can't just have a coil sitting in liquid, it'll be flooded and not vape correctly.

 

[Jay-dub]

I can't remember the tag, but bring the guy who made a grilled cheese on a spiral coil to fab something up.

Also OP, you can't just have a coil sitting in liquid, it'll be flooded and not vape correctly.

I agree. I'm only proposing a drop or two pumped to the heating element at a time. Not to submerge the coil. Just coat it... but now that I started thinking about a cleanable surface for the oil to burn off of I'm trying to explore the possibility of the coil being kept away from direct contact with the oil if at all possible. Brainstorming.