Installing Cotton in you Kanger T3s

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Just tried this tonight for the first time.
I just ordered some carto's and a tank, because the supplier that I go through has been out of the Kanger T3's and the replacement bottom coils for quite some time now.

I thought the coil on my kanger was done, I have been using it for roughly a month or so. The taste was gross and the vapor production was slim.

I JUST replaced the wick and readjusted the coil (the best I could). Right now, the flavor is a bit muted, but hoping after a few more primer drags that won't be the case. The vapor production is BACK TO PAR. It's like it's brand new!

Definitely worth trying, and thanks for the guide!
 

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WOW!!! I just tried this because cotton balls were all I had around, and WOW, this has been my best vaping experience to date. I'm hoping for no leaks so we'll see with a little time! THIS IS AWESOME!

Update: Well I have no leaks so far. I taste the flavor more than I ever did with the silica wicks. The vapor production is so far beyond what I expected that I'm not sure I can comfortably vape at my desk anymore because the clouds are so freakin' big. I'm hooked, gonna rewick my other heads later.
 
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I posted nearly 2mths ago...using cotton ball wicks....im happy to say...still a great idea...I have 15 to 20 heads on rotation....change wicks once a week...I pulled out a brand new head...just to see if after 2mths...I still think the cotton gave better flavour...and yes...better flavour with cotton...then a brand new head...;)
 

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Just did this with my eVod head. It's exactly the same process if anyone wants to know. Only difference is it's a bit harder to take off the metal tube to get at the wicks since it's much shorter than the tube on the T3. I nearly pulled the bottom part off trying to get it out. Other than that worked great. Haven't put any juice in yet since I want to finish what's in my current eVod first, but I'll give an update to see how it works. I put a flavor wick also btw, one piece of cotton through the coil didn't seem like enough, hopefully it works. If not it's a hell of a lot easier to pull out some of the top wick then it would be to add more.
 

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Well, my first 2 tries didn't go great. 1st attempt I obviously packed too tight, as it wasn't hitting very well. 2nd attempt I obviously packed too loose and got gurgle & a lot of juice on the connector center post. Going to the Grandson's soccer game now, and the rest of the day is full so I will try again when I can.
 

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A little more information might help us help you.

What are you using; cheesecloth, cotton ball, cleaning pad, etc.?
How did you prepare the wick; no twist, twisted slightly or twisted tightly?

For example, I use cheesecloth, 15 strands 4 inches long, no twist, doubled and pull it through the coil using a beading needle. You could also use a single strand of cheese cloth doubled pushed through the coil first, then slip the 15 strand wick through the loop and pull the 30 strands back through.
Then before I cut it I double one end back over for the flavor wick.
Then trim both the main (coil) wick and flavor wick at the same time to proper length.

Information on your juice might help, too, such as PG/VG ratio.
 
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Using cotton ball material. Trying peanut butter cups 50/50. Tight twist, adjusting coil with needle after inserting, flaying loose ends after cutting.

Had a short time availible this afternoon and gave it another shot. Much better results. Makes my peanut butter cup juice taste dead on and at a lower wattage than silica. Didn't notice any difference in vapor though.

Going to visit my Father at the hospital now, but stopping at BB&B to get the cheese cloth and will probably give that a shot tonight.
 
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I just received my 100' roll of Kanthal A1 32ga and spent the last 2 days making about a dozen coils trying to get the resistance down to 2.5 ohms with a decent amount of coils. The original T3 comes with 7 coils, don't know what wire they are using. I tried 4, 5, 6, & 7 coils on a 4-40 screw but couldn't get the results I was looking for. Everything from 5 and up the ohms was too high, and 4 coils just didn't seem to be enough heating surface.

Finally settled on a 2.5mm screw (don't know the pitch, it's just one I found in a bunch of metric screws), but 6 coils seems to have hit it pretty close. I think it checked out around 2.8 ohms. Next I'll try 5 coils to see what it comes out to. The 4-40 screw is just a tad over 3mm in diameter.

Having a little problem with the positive post insulator tearing. Hasn't torn all the way yet, but it's getting very difficult to get back in the hole. Lubing with some PG or VG helped a lot.

Found something that looks like replacement positive post insulator, but don't know if they will fit or not.
Follow along here if you are interested: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/404815-possible-kanger-t3-positive-post-insulators.html#post9244459
 

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Using cotton ball material. Trying peanut butter cups 50/50. Tight twist, adjusting coil with needle after inserting, flaying loose ends after cutting.

Had a short time availible this afternoon and gave it another shot. Much better results. Makes my peanut butter cup juice taste dead on and at a lower wattage than silica. Didn't notice any difference in vapor though.

Going to visit my Father at the hospital now, but stopping at BB&B to get the cheese cloth and will probably give that a shot tonight.

Probably to late but make sure the cheesecloth you get from bb&b isn't brownish. I got that one but it tasted like crap and the burnt taste wouldn't go away. I don't know if that was because I put a top flavor wick or not though, I only tried the cheese cloth once. Cotton balls work amazing to be honest. The first time I put a top wick with the cotton ball also, and it burnt to fast and tasted like crap, but worked wonders after I just put the one wick through the coil, so that might be what the problem was with the cheese cloth as well.

Anyway, whoever the guy was that said he used makeup pads...how do you go about that? Girlfriend has some, all cotton ones it looks like. But do I take off the top and bottom parts that look a little denser than the inside cotton? Or do you leave that on also? And you twist it also after cutting off a strip or not?

Oh little tip, although anyone who has done this already probably already knows...If you are using a new head, with the old silica in it still, don't worry about picking up all the little tiny pieces that get stuck on the coil after you take out the main big pieces of silica. Just pull your cotton wick through, and it will take out all the old silica along with it. Obviously just pull the cotton through a little more than usual so you don't have any leftover silica on the cotton wick itself.
 
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I don't know if there is any differences in quality or production methods in the various types of cheesecloth, but mine is white and I got it from my local grocery store hoping it's at least food quality.

I rebuilt (wick only) about half dozen and only had one instance of a bad taste, but after a rinse it was okay. It was the first time I had used it after the rebuild and I'm thinking I contaminated it with my dirty fingers. Now I wash my hands before I handle any of the cheesecloth and rinse all my rebuilds immediately after I rebuild it just to make sure it's clean. No bad taste since.

The 15 strand doubled to 30 strand coil and flavor wick seem to be perfect for the juice I'm using which is just Menthol with no tobacco flavor at all and a ratio of 75%/25% PG/VG.
 

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Yeah, cotton will burn and quick(need to keep it wet with juice at all times). No dry burning with the cotton wick in. It will depend on your vaping habit as to how long the cotton wick will last. I like to keep my stuff as clean as possible so I remove my wicks and dryburn and clean everything up at least once a week. Just throw away the old wick and put a new one in. Cotton is extremely cheap so it's a win win to me.
 

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I don't know if there is any differences in quality or production methods in the various types of cheesecloth, but mine is white and I got it from my local grocery store hoping it's at least food quality.

I rebuilt (wick only) about half dozen and only had one instance of a bad taste, but after a rinse it was okay. It was the first time I had used it after the rebuild and I'm thinking I contaminated it with my dirty fingers. Now I wash my hands before I handle any of the cheesecloth and rinse all my rebuilds immediately after I rebuild it just to make sure it's clean. No bad taste since.

The 15 strand doubled to 30 strand coil and flavor wick seem to be perfect for the juice I'm using which is just Menthol with no tobacco flavor at all and a ratio of 75%/25% PG/VG.

Maybe my juice was to thick? I have to use 100% VG, have asthma so I totally can't breathe at all if I use PG...have a few bottles of 20%PG/80% VG from M&P's that's not as thick also. On second thought it works fine with cotton balls, so cheesecloth should work also with my juice. I did dry burn it for a second or two without any juice on it at all actually that time, so it probably burnt the cheesecloth to beyond saving. I think I'll try it with cheesecloth again after the couple that I have with cotton wear down...which has been like over a week already so I should probably do that. I really would rather use cheesecloth since it is about 100000000% times easier to get cheesecloth through the coils than it is cotton.

I also wonder if you could rewick a T2 with the cheesecloth. I was thinking about trying with cotton, but I would think it would be not flexible enough and wouldn't work to well with it being really long. Cheesecloth can hang down and move better though, so it probably can be done...I think I might try that also and let everyone know how it goes.

I hope this isn't a silly question but, does the coil get hot enough to burn the cotton? How long does this last, compared to the silica wicking?
Yeah, cotton will burn and quick(need to keep it wet with juice at all times). No dry burning with the cotton
wick in. It will depend on your vaping habit as to how long the cotton wick will last. I like to keep my stuff as clean as possible so I remove my wicks and dryburn and clean everything up at least once a week. Just throw away the old wick and put a new one in. Cotton is extremely cheap so it's a win win to me.

How do you know when to change the cotton? I have been using a pair of heads with cotton in it for probably a week and a half now...still works, looks a little dark now though on the parts I can see. It also turns the juice quite dark after vaping a whole tank. I wash them after each use though, I haven't looked inside to see how it looks around the coil...I am assuming it is going to be real dark and burnt looking. Don't know when to change it though.
 
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