Interested in Rebuilding

[Arch]

Well, now that I've quit smoking and vaping has turned more and more into a hobby, I want to start tinkering. With that being said, I'm going to buy an IGO-W with 2mm pre-drilled airholes. It's going to be topping a Provari though, because I want the ease of mind until I get more confidence behind rebuilding and buy a mechanical mod. My issue is that I have no idea what else to buy to go with it in terms of being able to build a coil to coincide the Provari's limits. So far I plan on buying my Kanthal wire from Temco and my wicking material will be #1006 Peach & Creme Ecru yarn. However, I'm not sure which gauge of wire to buy. My goal will be 1.2-1.6 ohm coils and I have no idea how different builds vary from each other. From what I know, the lower the gauge, the lower the ohms.

From what I've read, using a 1.2-1.4ohm coil even on a Provari will provide a lot better flavor and cloud production than that of a cartotank, clearotank or anything along those lines. That's sort of what I'm trying to get out of this, along with the habit of dripping before I vape. Something about that extra tiny bit of work reminds me of smoking a cigarette for some reason, and I think I'd really enjoy it. I imagine I'll be making "micro" coils since those seem to be fairly easy, but I don't own a butane torch so I suppose I'll have to buy one. Are they really needed? Do you need to torch your coil if you're not doing sub ohms? Is it a must? I imagine all of the tools I'll need to rebuild will be available for fairly cheap prices at Wal-mart.

My goal really from all of this is to get one build that I know provides a lot of flavor, a decent amount of vapor in comparison to what I'm used to and the safety behind the Provari guiding it. Something I could just re-create with ease and not have to dive too deep into. I'm not looking for room filling clouds, or the greatest flavor possible, but just a step up from what I'm accustom to. Will this even be beneficial if used on a Provari?

I'm sure more questions will arise once some have been answered, but this is what I can think of off the top of my head. I just don't want to waste money buying something that I don't need for what I'm goaling at. Thanks ahead of time for any help.

 

[suspectK]

Why an igow... and with the holes already drilled out so large? You'll have an easier time with single coils.. and it would be better to see if you like the stock holes.

I subohm, and I don't use a touch. I just glow the wires up with my mod.. and compress if needed. All I use is a tool to wrap with, typically a fluke lead (2mm), and pliers and a screwdriver.. plus rolled cotton from cvs.

I used rebuildables for a long time with regulated mods.. one being the mvp with a lower range.

For the range you're wanting, 28-30 gauge. You are correct. Lower gauge=larger wire=lower resistance.

 

[Arch]

Why an igow... and with the holes already drilled out so large? You'll have an easier time with single coils.. and it would be better to see if you like the stock holes.

I subohm, and I don't use a touch. I just glow the wires up with my mod.. and compress if needed. All I use is a tool to wrap with, typically a fluke lead (2mm), and pliers and a screwdriver.. plus rolled cotton from cvs.

I used rebuildables for a long time with regulated mods.. one being the mvp with a lower range.

For the range you're wanting, 28-30 gauge. You are correct. Lower gauge=larger wire=lower resistance.

Well, I plan on doing lung inhales, so I figured I'd want the holes to be a bit bigger. The place I'm ordering it from offers stock, 1.6mm and 2mm holes. I'd rather them be pre-drilled if possible. I also chose the IGO-W because it's cheap and versatile since I could make a single or dual coil if I chose to. It seemed to be the most recommended for it's price, and an easy platform to build on. I guess I'll buy 100ft of 28 and 30 gauge Kanthal from Temco since that'll only be like $15.

 

[Rule62]

In order to take advantage of the full range of adjustment on the Provari, keep your resistance at 1.2 ohms, or slightly above. If I were you, I'd start out with a single coil set up. You may or may not want to try dual coils later. But at least, hone your skills on a single first. Try both 28 and 30g wire. See which one you like better. My two coil preferences are: Micro coil wrapped around a 1/16 drill bit. Cotton wick made with sterile cotton ball or rolled cotton. Or, coil wrapped around a #43 or #44 drill bit. Doubled piece of Peaches and Cream cotton yarn pulled through coil.

 

[Arch]

In order to take advantage of the full range of adjustment on the Provari, keep your resistance at 1.2 ohms, or slightly above. If I were you, I'd start out with a single coil set up. You may or may not want to try dual coils later. But at least, hone your skills on a single first. Try both 28 and 30g wire. See which one you like better. My two coil preferences are: Micro coil wrapped around a 1/16 drill bit. Cotton wick made with sterile cotton ball or rolled cotton. Or, coil wrapped around a #43 or #44 drill bit. Doubled piece of Peaches and Cream cotton yarn pulled through coil.

That sounds really nice. Yeah, I plan on only doing a single coil right now, but I wanted the IGO-W because I have the option of a dual coil if I wanted to. Having the extra post doesn't effect anything if it's not being used, right?

 

[bce22]

Start with a single coil. If you are planning on wrapping dual micros at a resistance of 1.2-1.3 (total) it will take A LONG time to heat up (in my experience).

 

[Arch]

Start with a single coil. If you are planning on wrapping dual micros at a resistance of 1.2-1.3 (total) it will take A LONG time to heat up (in my experience).

I plan on using a single coil. If you were in my position, which type of coil would you build to coincide the Provari's regulated limits?

 

[Lucky1384]

If you have fairly large dual air holes but are building a single coil, you might find it a bit airy and wispy. While playing around try blocking off the other hole with the tail end of your wicking material. It will concentrate the air directly onto your coil rather than splitting it between two. You may prefer it, maybe not, but that's the fun of an RDA!

 

[eda123]

I plan on using a single coil. If you were in my position, which type of coil would you build to coincide the Provari's regulated limits?

10 wraps of 30g around a 5/64 drill bit gives me about 1.7-1.8 ohms. 10 wraps of 28g around a 5/64 bit will get me about 1.2 ohms.

You are making the best leap forward in vaping you will remember. Rebuildables give such a better vape, in my opinion, vs. clearos. Get a good dripper with adjustable air flow, and ability to handle single or dual coils. Research and get a good one- you will probably end up there anyways so try ones like the Trident, Atomic, Quasar, Tobh, Origen, Zenith. All impeccably machined and offer you the versaility to change your style/airflow over time without having to buy a new device.

As for tank systems, as you have probably read the Kayfun and Russian are the most popular.

 

[A17kawboy]

Something I have found very helpful (if you have an android cellphone) is an app called Vapers Toolbox. It gives you a good idea of what gauge wire, what diameter coil, what resistance will result, etc.
Not sure if Iphone has an equivalent. Probably not. JK.

 

[Arch]

10 wraps of 30g around a 5/64 drill bit gives me about 1.7-1.8 ohms. 10 wraps of 28g around a 5/64 bit will get me about 1.2 ohms.

You are making the best leap forward in vaping you will remember. Rebuildables give such a better vape, in my opinion, vs. clearos. Get a good dripper with adjustable air flow, and ability to handle single or dual coils. Research and get a good one- you will probably end up there anyways so try ones like the Trident, Atomic, Quasar, Tobh, Origen, Zenith. All impeccably machined and offer you the versaility to change your style/airflow over time without having to buy a new device.

As for tank systems, as you have probably read the Kayfun and Russian are the most popular.

I kind of wanted to keep things a little cheaper, since I'm going to be buying all of the supplies at once, it doesn't give me a ton to spend on an RDA unless I get a clone of one of the RDA's you said. I know clones are made to be identical, but I imagine one slight negative difference could make a decent impact on it's performance. I'm not sure though.

Edit: I spoke too soon, the Trident is fairly inexpensive. Is that the RDA you personally recommend me to start off with? If you were in my shoes.

 

[Arch]

Okay, so out of the 3 that I'm looking at, which do you all think would be the best on my Provari? Trident, IGO-W or the Nimbus RDA?

 

[eda123]

Trident, its the only one with adjustable airflow

 

[Arch]

Trident, its the only one with adjustable airflow

Does it matter if I got the clone for $20 instead of the almost $100 authentic? I don't personally support clones, but with my current budget it seems like that's the route I'm going to have to take for now. Also doesn't make sense to me to spend $100+ on a device to learn with, eh?

Also having a hard time finding the Trident V2 clone, only seeing the Trident I think.

 

[Myk]

Find a place that sells small packages of wire before you jump into 100' to figure out what you like not what others tell you to like.

I liked standard resistance attys with my eGo-C.
When I got into rebuilding Vivi-Nova and Protank I tried a little of everything. I still liked about 2Ω, and with VV/VW I still liked standard eGo-C voltages.
I tried all different ohms and wires with RDA/RBA, I still liked 2Ω.
When I got into duals I tried sub-ohm and different wires. I figured out I liked 1Ω duals, which happens to be 2Ω coils. I do have to crank the voltage up to push 2 2Ω coils but it's equal to what I would be doing with a single coil.

I originally liked ribbon for rebuilding. That didn't work out too good for gennies. But as I got into them a little bit I started liking ribbon on them too.
Now that I've gone through a pack of wires from Kidney Puncher I'm ready for a 100' spool of ribbon, I know it's what I like.

 

[Jjshbetz11]

No the trident clone is suprisingly like the og. Trident in every way. Only way you could tell the difference is the real one has a serial number imo. They even weigh the same

 

[eda123]

Id buy the original, but thats me. There can be quality issues with ANY device. But if its not from the original manufacturer you are kinda left a little more vulnerable. This is true with some clones more than others.

That aside, not to sound preechy, but whenever possible I try to give my money to those coming up with new ideas, rather than those that copy it and profit from it. Only way we keep vaping moving forward is to support designers/innovators. This is a personal preference and others may not agree, so take that for what its worth

 

[Arch]

Id buy the original, but thats me. There can be quality issues with ANY device. But if its not from the original manufacturer you are kinda left a little more vulnerable. This is true with some clones more than others.

That aside, not to sound preechy, but whenever possible I try to give my money to those coming up with new ideas, rather than those that copy it and profit from it. Only way we keep vaping moving forward is to support designers/innovators. This is a personal preference and others may not agree, so take that for what its worth

I completely agree with you and I have no intentions on building a collection of clones, but to start off I'm going to until I really get a feel of this sort of thing. Just a safer investment for me.

 

[powerband]

Check out Fasttech you will find all the attys you want there, they may be clones but they are much less $$$
I would also consider Getting a smoktek SID or a Vamo V5 to use as a slave to run and burn your coils on rather than risk the provari at least until you get it down and are comfortable with your builds

you could pick up 4 or 5 Atty's a mechanical mod and a Vamo for under a hundred bucks.
The Vamo will do just as much as the provari, yet has a higher amp output an easier to read display.
just a thought

 

[Arch]

Check out Fasttech you will find all the attys you want there, they may be clones but they are much less $$$
I would also consider Getting a smoktek SID or a Vamo V5 to use as a slave to run and burn your coils on rather than risk the provari at least until you get it down and are comfortable with your builds

you could pick up 4 or 5 Atty's a mechanical mod and a Vamo for under a hundred bucks.
The Vamo will do just as much as the provari, yet has a higher amp output an easier to read display.
just a thought

What kind of risks are there against my Provari? I know about Fasttech, but the deal with them is that it always takes like 2 months to receive my stuff. I'll probably get a bunch of stuff from them, but for my first setup so I can start practicing, I want to buy it from somewhere and have it be here in 3-4 days so I can start now.

I'm not opposed to buying a Vamo V5 or something since it's like $30 on Fasttech, but I don't want to wait that much time to get into RDA's. I'm sort of ancy about this because I'm excited. I do have an MVP 2 though, which might work as a slave to test builds on before confirming they're good since it has an ohm meter built in.