Interesting NEJM paper on UK and Harm Reduction

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So, as many of you will be aware, the UK government is really keen on being world leader on vape in the post-regulation era. Our public health community has, broadly, come to the view that tobacco harm reduction, in the form of vaping, is a good thing....

However, this really doesn't appear to be true in the United States, and this NEJM article takes a historical perspective on the divide between the US and UK and Prohibition and Harm Reduction for other substances.

I think it's somewhat lacking, mind you - vaping in the UK faced very similar opposition to our US friends - the difference seems to have been that we were able to get sufficient people in UK Public Health to recognise that the BS "prohibitionist" arguments are exactly that. I particularly enjoyed the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids being singled out as a principal organiser of anti-vape sentiment.

Anyway, probably quite an important paper, so have a read.

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So, as many of you will be aware, the UK government is really keen on being world leader on vape in the post-regulation era. Our public health community has, broadly, come to the view that tobacco harm reduction, in the form of vaping, is a good thing....

However, this really doesn't appear to be true in the United States, and this NEJM article takes a historical perspective on the divide between the US and UK and Prohibition and Harm Reduction for other substances.

I think it's somewhat lacking, mind you - vaping in the UK faced very similar opposition to our US friends - the difference seems to have been that we were able to get sufficient people in UK Public Health to recognise that the BS "prohibitionist" arguments are exactly that. I particularly enjoyed the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids being singled out as a principal organiser of anti-vape sentiment.

Anyway, probably quite an important paper, so have a read.

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Thanks SJ, e-mailed the article to myself so I can share it with my Dr., he is on the abstinence team.
 

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So, as many of you will be aware, the UK government is really keen on being world leader on vape in the post-regulation era. Our public health community has, broadly, come to the view that tobacco harm reduction, in the form of vaping, is a good thing....

However, this really doesn't appear to be true in the United States, and this NEJM article takes a historical perspective on the divide between the US and UK and Prohibition and Harm Reduction for other substances.

I think it's somewhat lacking, mind you - vaping in the UK faced very similar opposition to our US friends - the difference seems to have been that we were able to get sufficient people in UK Public Health to recognise that the BS "prohibitionist" arguments are exactly that. I particularly enjoyed the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids being singled out as a principal organiser of anti-vape sentiment.

Anyway, probably quite an important paper, so have a read.

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Guess the difference is in dealing with things as they are - not as you'd like them to be. Realpolitik, if you will.
Prohibiting/banning anything doesn't make it go away, it just hikes the prices as inofficial supply chains will step will take over in the blink of an eye once the official channels dry up or are deliberately blocked.

May give a lot of puritans a raison d'etre ... fighting the good fight 'n all that.
Righteousness needs 'sinners' to feed on. Price tag for that 'food' is a certain degree of psychotic behaviour patterns. Like denial.

Pragmatic approach makes more sense - ideologies should serve the people. Once people are made to serve ideology, things usually take a turn for the worse.

Like a lot of other activities, vaping isn't gonna go away just because some folk wish it would.

But it also helps that the money trails are laid out differently in the UK ...
 
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