Interesting PG issue.

[Legato525]

Ok, so, while researching some safety information for myself all of this has kinda come together. I knew PG was an alcohol, but I never thought it could show on a B.A.C. test. Here's why I believe that. PG is used in cosmetics because of it's lasting moistening effects. This principle does not change (I believe) in it's vapor form. Since the PG vapor sticks slightly to your lungs, not enough to be unsafe, but it is there. Now, I think that somone who vapes as much as I do throghout the day, my lungs are slightly coated, so if given a breath analysis I would show a slight false test due to the PG in my lungs. I called a pharmasist here in Las Vegas and posed this question. He said that their is a good chance of a false test if exposed to PG vapor throughout the day. So I know this seems like no big deal, but it is. As a truck driver I can be shutdown if a test shows any reading, as long as it is not above .04. This is so if there is a flase reading, its no big deal, except, my company will terminate any employee who is shut down, even if it is a flase reading. In fact our employee handbook flat out says to avoid any product that can gove a flase reading specifically for this purpose. Anyone have any information they can point me to that would disprove this? I have switched to analogs (OMG it's horrible) until this issue is resolved.

 

[Xtian]

It would be interesting if anyone on this forum had a breathalyzer and could test out this theory to see if it was above .08

I don't think it could be, but then again, mouthwash can give out false readings.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say

 

[Legato525]

Oh ya, I don't believe you could reach a false reading as high as .08.

 

[Duckies]

Legato,

Can you walk into a police station and ask for a test after hitting the PV? Anecdotal, but would be interesting to know, especially for those whose professions (like yours, airline, etc) are governed by such tests.

 

[Legato525]

you know, I am not sure. I try and flag down a cop and see if they would give me one, lol.

 

[Momof3]

Can you switch to VG until you know something for sure? Gotta protect that CDL. I know it's important. You should have worked for my DH, he was a pushover. He didn't even fire a lease operator for failing a test. Instead he shut him down and sent him to treatment.

 

[Legato525]

I am looking into switching to VG, I have not looked into it to much yet.

 

[Duckies]

you know, I am not sure. I try and flag down a cop and see if they would give me one, lol.

Just be sure that you are walking to them. Woudn't want an inadvertent DUI.

Let us know if you decide to pursue this. False positives from PG is not good.

 

[rlorange]

Very interesting. PG is kind of like two ethanol (alcohol) molecules joined together so there is every reason that the sensors in RBT devices would give a false reading from PG.

I dispute the fact that PG hangs around in the lungs though. It will be absorbed very quickly and there would not be enough in the blood to give a reading once the residual is absorbed from the lungs.

I definately think that if you blew into one just after a vape there would be enough to give a false reading; assuming that this is indeed accurate.

Lots of info on this forum regarding PG vs VG, latest active thread:

Glycerin and the 'Acrolein problem' anyone vaping VG read this

 

[hanover fist]

Hi a friend has a blow and go in his car no positve reading on it and he has vaped and blows in the thing no false reading
Bob

 

[Momof3]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...86-someone-asked-about-vape-possible-dui.html

Someone tried it. HTH

 

[wanderlust]

Saw the post and can't locate through search but, tried a dot approved AlcoHawk digital alcohol detector immediately after vape (steady use) and did not register. Device will register anything over .01%BAC. Oh, should note that I have been using 36 mg pg soulution daily on a real regular basis. Hope this helps