Intro and a problem!

[BogartNoMore]

First post, so first off, hey folks

Been lurking here a while looking at reviews etc. and finally bought myself a DSE901B a week ago from e-cigs.co.uk. Been loving it so far, and have had no need to smoke any tobacco from the moment it arrived! Unfortunately my mini hit its first cleaning cycle today. I realised the flashing led was lasting longer than usual and it must be the automatic cleaning, so I let it be for a few mins. I then picked it up and took a toke and was instantly hit by a nasty burning taste/smell. I looked at the atomiser and could see a few strands of the material from the cartridges attached to it. I did my best to remove what I could see, but I now suspect some of it might have melted on to the atomizer itself. I've since tried burning a piece of that material with a lighter and the smell from that seems to be the same as I now get every time I draw on my mini There is also a distinct 'sting', especially if I exhale it through my nose, that is different from what I would get from nicotine alone.

Anyone else suffered this? I have read about a burning smell here before, but usually related to a build up of the liquid itself. Has anyone else suspected it could be melting cartridge material on the atomizer? If it is, i'm not sure steam cleaning will be able to remove it! Does anyone know what material material is used in the cartridges? Also while I'm here, I'm glad to see at least after general use the material in the carts doesn't seem to have melted at all, but can anyone tell me what material the atomizers themselves are made from and how hot they get during operation? I know from research into other vaporisers some metals can give off nasty substances themselves when heated, which is why the better models such as the volcano make a selling point of the safe material used in their heating element.

I've made my peace about being somewhat of a test subject with these e-juices and was impressed to see pillbox38 has been getting his lab tested, but I still have some general concerns about the device itself. Looking forward to the day I'm officially told all is safe and well and I can vape myself silly the rest of my days without concern Thanks for any help, and thanks for all the help this forum has given me already!

Bogart

 

[sigarett]

.....is that probably you wouldn't want the self-cleaning cycle to happen. I think I read somewhere on this forum that as soon as someone detects a cleaning cycle they remove the battery to stop it. I don't know if the circuitry keeps track if the cycle is finished or not.

Thing is, 1) it's like a continuous 1 minute+ puff....not good for the atomizer to stay so hot for so long. It is only designed to heat up during the short puffs when e-vaping.

2) the long "on" time will dry up the liquid from the tip of the cartridge fibre and then go on to burn the fibre itself as no fresh liquid is being drawn onto the steel mesh covering the atomizer filament.

3) the burnt smell is a) either burnt fibre that has gotten stuck to the mesh, b) the atomizer heating element itself coz it burned itself up due to no liquid to vaporise or c) both

Maybe cleaning the atomizer (if it is still working) using one of the methods described elsewhere in this forum will help.

I am still waiting to detect my e-cig's first cleaning cycle so that I can try to stop it from happening. I have already cleaned my atomizer once (it clogged after 5 days use) and it worked well enough that I think the in-built cleaning cycle is superfluous.

oh, and BTW, Hello and welcome to the forum

 

[mEtoke2]

I think I read somewhere on this forum that as soon as someone detects a cleaning cycle they remove the battery to stop it. I don't know if the circuitry keeps track if the cycle is finished or not.

This has happened to me. The LED will start flashing beyond the 20 flashes that tell you it needs charging. Then you will start to hear a sizzling from the atomizer. Quickly unscrew the battery from the atomizer. After you do that the battery will still keep flashing until the cleaning cycle is over because it can not tell that you disconnected it from the atomizer.

 

[BogartNoMore]

Thanks for the replies!

Sounds like good advice, I have no doubt that this burning taste, what ever it may have been from, happened the moment it finished its first cleaning cycle. I'll be sure to stop it the next time!

On the plus side it seems to have diminished after I ran through a fresh cartridge. I got through most of the cartridge just drawing the vapour but not inhaling (for fear of my health) and can no longer detect the smell/taste. Perhaps, as I think others have suggested, it was coming from the atomizer itself, and it just needed to be sufficiently re-moistened.

Time to get some liquid so I can dip, methinks.

 

[Grumpysanta]

Just goes to show that pays to read all the threads in the forum. I was aware that a cleaning cycle existed but didn't realize it was actually detrimental to the performance. Now I know I'll be waiting for it to happen. Funny thing is I bought the flip case to carry my Mini about so I usually unscrew the battery anyway. Thanks for the Info, you just saved a newbie from an unsavoury experience.

 

[mEtoke2]

It will only go into a cleaning cycle after you take a puff. It will not do it on its own while connected.

 

[smoking gnu]

First post, so first off, hey folks


Has anyone else suspected it could be melting cartridge material on the atomizer? If it is, i'm not sure steam cleaning will be able to remove it! Does anyone know what material material is used in the cartridges? Also while I'm here, I'm glad to see at least after general use the material in the carts doesn't seem to have melted at all, but can anyone tell me what material the atomizers themselves are made from and how hot they get during operation? I know from research into other vaporisers some metals can give off nasty substances themselves when heated, which is why the better models such as the volcano make a selling point of the safe material used in their heating element.

Hi mate. I don’t know what they make the cart filling out of but I don’t like it. When I use carts my tongue gets sore. I just drip now. If you are new to dripping take your time just start with one drop of juice smoke that for say ten puffs, you will be able to tell by the taste when you need more juice. But don’t smoke the thing to dry. If you put to much you can flood it this can damage your batteries, but this has never happened to me and I’ve flooded mine lots of times when I started dripping. A flooded atomizer can just be washed out. After washing and drying put a couple of drops of juice into the atomizer then leave that for an hour or two, before smoking give it anther drop. Dripping took me a bit of time to get right, but I think its worth it. When you get it right I see no reason that it would damage the atomizer. Just don’t smoke it to dry.

 

[Kate]

I don't know what the cartridge filler is made of either but I wouldn't fancy inhaling fumes from it.

You might find this interesting Bogart - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...anufacturers-suppliers-whats-my-atomizer.html

 

[SmokingInTexas]

I doubt the auto-clean is melting the material and creating the bad taste. I guess it is possible the heat could be doing nasty stuff to the filler, but it hasn't happened in my use. My "guess" is that what causes the bad taste is COOKING the juice that's in the atomizer. Burning the juice would probably leave a nasty film of bad flavor that lingers for a while. My PRIMARY issue with the auto-clean cycle is that IF it kicks-off when the atomizer/cart is dry, it could burn-up the coil and render the atomizer null and void.

I use a manual-auto-clean (using the Janty manual switch) occasionally, and it does improve performance. but I make sure the atomizer is well juiced, and I never run it for 20 seconds. Afterwards, I enjoy the vapor, and try and get myself juiced.

 

[BogartNoMore]

Ordered myself some Cherry flavour and a spare atomiser from e-cigs.co.uk and they arrive right on time this morning. The cherry has a pleasant but subtle taste, but sadly not the throat hit I was hoping for.

Would you believe it though... I decided to try out the new atomiser to compare results, and in the first 2 mins of testing my second battery must have hit its first cleaning cycle!!

My brain clearly hadn't twigged onto the fact that the battery itself has the micro processor, which in my mind make this cleaning cycle even more pointless. So my brand new atomiser, not 20 tokes in, gets "cleaned" for no reason what so ever! hehe.

Glad to say my brain did kick in fast enough for me to get that battery off, and I'd only just dripped the thing, but still noted a very short lived burnt taste on its next use.

Thanks for the tips smoking gnu, wish I read them this morning, pretty sure I flooded it already! *rinse, repeat*

And thanks for the link Kate, I'll work my way through those 58 pages later

 

[Eishka]

Silly question maybe but if the cleaning cycle is detrimental to the atomiser why is the battery programmed to enable it? Are Suppliers feeding back to the manufacturers?

Is the cleaning cycle carry on restricted to the 901's

 

[Mr.Darcy]

Silly question maybe but if the cleaning cycle is detrimental to the atomiser why is the battery programmed to enable it? Are Suppliers feeding back to the manufacturers?

Is the cleaning cycle carry on restricted to the 901's

im afraid it isnt restricted to the 901...

 

[spufmonkey]

glad i read this before i sit and wait for the postman 2mora morning..