Introducing... my bottom feeding mod (MyMod)

[Yiorgo]

Like solid silver unicorn magic on a beryllium copper leaf spring.

Yes and tsk, tsk.

Tapatyped

Duh I'm dumb.... Ok thanks guys lol.

That's why I wanted to see a pic....doesnt Rob plate his copper contacts with gold? What's the difference with silver?

I just installed a heavy duty reo contact into a grand and its a hard push. I've bent it down alittle and that helped but I'd like to see if I could minimize the fireworks...... If that's the difference I want 10 of them.

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[beckdg]

Duh I'm dumb.... Ok thanks guys lol.

That's why I wanted to see a pic....doesnt Rob plate his copper contacts with gold? What's the difference with silver?

I just installed a heavy duty reo contact into a grand and its a hard push. I've bent it down alittle and that helped but I'd like to see if I could minimize the fireworks...... If that's the difference I want 10 of them.

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For the high resistance folks, the thin beryllium contact rob sells (any of them) has a small contact area that provides high resistance and robs the mod of performance eating up battery life throughout the day.

For high watt people, this means the contact eats itself up and performance degrades quickly.

The spring/plate situation simply put is a piss poor execution of a current path with multiple choke points.

All in all, for most people, the grands are capable of consistently performing way better than they would with a brand new set of sub ohm contacts let alone some broken in or abused contacts.

The silver is beefy and made to handle 30 amps on mains voltage repeatedly.

Add a nut and bolt for a negative contact and you have a grand that actually hits like a mech... a good mech.

Here, I'll show you...



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[Yiorgo]

So does a Cc mod work on this same contact design? could just get them and switch it out? And does he also sell a retro fitted part to replace the spring or negative contact?...... The lowest I go is .20 ohms and this is a recent change but I get the fireworks, heat etc.

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[beckdg]

So does a Cc mod work on this same contact design? could just get them and switch it out? And does he also sell a retro fitted part to replace the spring or negative contact?...... The lowest I go is .20 ohms and this is a recent change but I get the fireworks, heat etc.

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Yes, same part...

BUT!!!

No, not interchangeable.

Modded to specifically fit one or the other.

Yes, he can and has sold a retrofit for the negative spring.

BUT there's some light DIY involved. Drilling, tapping threads...

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[Yiorgo]

Yes, same part...

BUT!!!

No, not interchangeable.

Modded to specifically fit one or the other.

Yes, he can and has sold a retrofit for the negative spring.

BUT there's some light DIY involved. Drilling, tapping threads...

Tapatyped

Cool perfect! I'm excited .....ill report back with my CUSTOM REO GRAND.
Sorry for the hijack Paul.

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[Tamer El-Meehy]

Yes, same part...

BUT!!!

No, not interchangeable.

Modded to specifically fit one or the other.

Yes, he can and has sold a retrofit for the negative spring.

BUT there's some light DIY involved. Drilling, tapping threads...

Tapatyped

That was very useful Beck. Would be great if you can post instructions (maybe a vid) showing how to replace the Reo contacts. I have two Reo Grands and it would be great to give them this upgrade.

 

[beckdg]

That was very useful Beck. Would be great if you can post instructions (maybe a vid) showing how to replace the Reo contacts. I have two Reo Grands and it would be great to give them this upgrade.

Well... for positive contacts, you replace them just like you would regular contacts and widen the hole in the black insulator so they can pass through. Easy peesy.

For my negatives, I can forward you a PM I've been recirculating since before Corey's contacts.

Or if you get the negative contacts from Corey you'll have to ask him or @muzichead. I believe he may be the only one that got those in sterling silver from Corey. They'd know the size and thus the proper drill bit and tap sizes necessary.

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[Tamer El-Meehy]

Great! By all means send me your PM. I might also consider upgrading both the negative and positive contacts.


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[beckdg]

Great! By all means send me your PM. I might also consider upgrading both the negative and positive contacts.


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I'll get to that for you and @Yiorgo when I get home and use the PC. It'll be a couple days. For now, you guys should definitely hit up the CC thread / Corey and check out his option, details, instruction, price, etc.

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[Tamer El-Meehy]

That's great. Take your time.


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[paulw2014]

Well since you guys are speaking of contacts, I've made both unplated and nickel plated contacts. I'll send you guys both to see which one works better. The unplated one is probably more higher maintenance. Given my observation in the last few days, it tends to tarnish, although the tarnish can be removed by soaking in vinegar. Awhile back most ppl seems to think plating is unnecessary, but I plated some just to be safe.

I have to work during weekdays. My goal is to have it all assembled this weekend and have it shipped on Monday. Finally. You'll be hearing from me in the coming days.

 

[paulw2014]

Damn Paul you have a skill and if/when the _ _ _ _ hits the fan I'm glad I'm in the same state as you. We'll become part of the underground and for a small fee I will come by and help you assemble mods.

You can become the Al Capone of squonkers

That'll be great. But with the FDA over the shoulders, I'm not sure how this "underground" thing might work. It's hard to sell anything when you can't market them in the open. There are still some hope that Congress might do something, and if not, then lawsuits. Halo just sued them.

 

[Nautilusfan]

Curious how the anodizing is holding up on your test mod?

 

[paulw2014]

Curious how the anodizing I'd holding up on your test mod?

It's fine.

 

[ST Dog]

I'm not sure how this "underground" thing might work. It's hard to sell anything when you can't market them in the open.

Same way any black market works. Mostly word of mouth. You know someone who knows someone. Coded messages (don't call it what it is when talking about it).

Talk about the great new box you made for personal use.( They have little authority if not selling)

Privately you are contacted about making another. You just have to be careful who you deal with.

 

[Train2]

It may not come to that. I don't think the FDA is in any way going to actually pursue shutting down online sales of hardware. Or certainly not small independent ones. It may be proven that all that would be required to be safe selling a small-run mod would be some kind of statement that it is not intended for use with Nicotine.

But that's 2 years off - and only IF we can't get those regs revised or replaced with something closer to rational.

 

[paulw2014]

It may not come to that. I don't think the FDA is in any way going to actually pursue shutting down online sales of hardware. Or certainly not small independent ones. It may be proven that all that would be required to be safe selling a small-run mod would be some kind of statement that it is not intended for use with Nicotine.

But that's 2 years off - and only IF we can't get those regs revised or replaced with something closer to rational.

Congress might do something. If not, Halo just filed lawsuits, and probably others will follow. There is a good chance those draconian rules would be revised (I hope). A lot can happen in two years.

 

[ST Dog]

But that's 2 years off - and only IF we can't get those regs revised or replaced with something closer to rational.

Need to recheck, but I though the 2 yrs was for products that submitted the paperwork. The 2yrs is to give the FDA time to review the expected flood of applications. If they reject before that period, you must stop immediately. (And, if they haven't acted in 2 yrs you have to cease as well)

But if you don't submitt, then the cut off is later this year.


Nicotine or not doesn't apear to matter, though the courts may weigh in on that.

 

[Train2]

2 years to file as long as your product was on the market by August this year, then if you do, another year...before they reject you. In theory, you can't launch a new product after August without applying - but really, FDA doesn't have the manpower to go looking for every device available online. They might notice if Provape rolls out a P4 for Christmas though...

They're going to hit vape shops first (again - if nothing changes), because it's easy. Then next would come juice companies that ignore them and keep selling Nic without applying...

Need to recheck, but I though the 2 yrs was for products that submitted the paperwork. The 2yrs is to give the FDA time to review the expected flood of applications. If they reject before that period, you must stop immediately. (And, if they haven't acted in 2 yrs you have to cease as well)

But if you don't submitt, then the cut off is later this year.


Nicotine or not doesn't apear to matter, though the courts may weigh in on that.

 

[paulw2014]

2 years to file as long as your product was on the market by August this year, then if you do, another year...before they reject you. In theory, you can't launch a new product after August without applying - but really, FDA doesn't have the manpower to go looking for every device available online. They might notice if Provape rolls out a P4 for Christmas though...

So if I rush another mod out before 8/9 and sell it to a few friends, and assuming I keep invoices, receipt, etc, I should be good for the next two years? I heard one needs to submit something to the FDA by 8/9 because that's how they'll know if something is "on the market" by that time. A little confused on this...