Introducing Myself - An Appearently rare 0% Nicotine Vaper
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Hi Rabdaddy! Welcome to ECF - glad to hear you are on the mend from your heart attack and living a healthier lifestyle. Now, many people will tell you that there is NO throat hit whatsoever in 0-nic juices. In my experience, this could not be further from the truth. I have been vaping 0-nic for almost a year now and have been very satsified with the throat hit. IMHO, juice has nothing to do with it. Its the equipment. I think your Sabretouch will be perfect. Just experiment with your equipment and you will find your sweet spot. Try first a higher voltage with one of your higher resistance cartos. You can also try a lower voltage with a lower resistance carto. I have found that both work well for me. I vape 50/50 0-nic juice (from Mountain Oak Vapors = the BEST JUICE AVAILABLE!!). OOPS - sorry! But I love their juice so much I want to share it with everyone!!
Anyway, best of luck to you - it will take some experimenting and some research, but you will get there...
I completely agree with you although i don't vape 0mg exclusively (i go between 0mg-6mg and mix them down at times too to 3mg)
it's all about the device i use a 1.5 ohm atty on my provari and can adjust the voltage higher when needed
i have used the same on an ego and it isn't the same not as hot and less vapor
i might also recommend a menthol for that cooling throat hit, which is very nice at 0mg and also stronger citrus flavors like lemonade as well
i've gone from vaping 30mg juice on an ego to 0-6 on a variable voltage device, and i can mimic that throat hit with a lower resistance atty(you can use cartos too) and a higher voltage
goodluck
please come back and tell us how it's going RAbdaddy
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Hi Rabdaddy....I can see your dilemma ,however let's look at the brighter sides, could you tell us, how long have you been on 0-nic, cause you are already successful at controlling your cravings... vaping is not only about TH, (as you can very well see, so many 0-nic users have chimed in) it helps us mimic the hand to mouth habit, which all us smokers have been so used to. Vaping also let's us enjoy the numerous flavors. now when you move on to the advanced PVs, you will notice the same flavors will come to life, as you can control the voltage and res and so forth. The advanced mods will give you more vapor, and technically speaking, even a low level nic, can satiate the user, who otherwise would need a higher mg nic, the reason being, it will only vaporise more juice per draw, hence the nic intake remains high, only the juices disappear faster. In your case trying any level of nic is dangerous, as nicotine is known to be a vaso-constrictor. IMO the TH cannot be mimicked, simply because it is not only a physical sensation, but also psychological . The brain reads how much nic has been absorbed by the body, and tells us to slow down or keep on vaping. TH at 0 nicotine remains an oxymoron for me
Sure souvik. May 23rd - my heart attack. I couldn't smoking once in the Cardiac Care UnitHi Rabdaddy....Could you tell us, how long have you been on 0-nic, cause you are already successful at controlling your cravings
. That was it. How could I justify smoking after a heart attack? By June 17th, when I heard about e-cigs, I had already kicked my 43 year - 2 pack a day habit. I was caught-up in a new life style - eating very carefully, exercising, physical therapy and the like. Not smoking gave me strength to continue to not smoke.
I was master of my universe. Soon, when the initial momentum wore-off, the urges began. Mind you, these were urges to hold, puff and breathe smoke, not for nicotine. Someone once said, to break an addiction you must replace one habit with another so vaping seemed a perfect solution. Well almost perfect. Without the satisfying TH, vamping can frustrate. Thus my mission to maximize the sensation.
Glad to hear you are recovering from your heart attack.
I'm sorry to say there is NO additive or device that can truely mimic the throat hit that comes from nicotine. I've been vaping for over three years and many of us vets searched high and low for additives and combinations that would provide a good throat hit without nicotine. It doesn't exist. An obvious reason why we know this to be a fact, other than our own experimentation, is if it did exist, do you think it would be a secret? Almost everyone would be using it and it would be well known.
An earlier suggestion of menthol eliquid, is probably the best path to explore. It doesn't mimic throat hit from nicotine, but it does provide a throat sensation that is not burning or irritating like an additive such as pepper does. Higher voltage model PV's (5 volt and variable volt) will help a little in combination with the menthol. It will enhance a little whatever "feel" you have from your eliquid but it, by itself, does not provide throat hit. And vodka and PGA does nothing in the throat hit area.
Good luck in your vaping experimentation.
I'm sorry to say there is NO additive or device that can truely mimic the throat hit that comes from nicotine. I've been vaping for over three years and many of us vets searched high and low for additives and combinations that would provide a good throat hit without nicotine. It doesn't exist. An obvious reason why we know this to be a fact, other than our own experimentation, is if it did exist, do you think it would be a secret? Almost everyone would be using it and it would be well known.
An earlier suggestion of menthol eliquid, is probably the best path to explore. It doesn't mimic throat hit from nicotine, but it does provide a throat sensation that is not burning or irritating like an additive such as pepper does. Higher voltage model PV's (5 volt and variable volt) will help a little in combination with the menthol. It will enhance a little whatever "feel" you have from your eliquid but it, by itself, does not provide throat hit. And vodka and PGA does nothing in the throat hit area.
Good luck in your vaping experimentation.
The rare ones are the ones that start at zero. There's loads of people who get to zero eventually. That's the main thing.
Sure souvik. May 23rd - my heart attack. I couldn't smoking once in the Cardiac Care Unit
Not smoking gave me strength to continue to not smoke.
I was master of my universe. Soon, when the initial momentum wore-off, the urges began. Mind you, these were urges to hold, puff and breathe smoke, not for nicotine. Someone once said, to break an addiction you must replace one habit with another so vaping seemed a perfect solution. Well almost perfect. Without the satisfying TH, vamping can frustrate. Thus my mission to maximize the sensation.
Welcome rabdaddy, glad you feel better. I am 59 and can say I am impressed with your 0 nic intake. Once you sample the various products let us know your thoughts on best combo. I hope to move to 0 nic in future and would be very interested in your results, again welcome.
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Hi and welcome! Yes a higher end VV will give you more punch and flavor and even TH on some flavors like Tiramisu, Marshmallow, even some nut flavors like pecan pie. Also try some Halo flavors at zero nic, they have more TH than many even at low nic, I vape 6 nic , so maybe even at zero you will get some TH. Have fun shopping! bnrk
Hi Rabdaddy and welcome to ECF. WOWSER my hat's off to you and I agree with many of the suggestions. I vape a lower nic in the evening because the daytime nic affects my sleep. I add menthol and it seems to make up for it. You can buy menthol drops separately and add accordingly.
The Best of Luck and we're all pulling for you.
The Best of Luck and we're all pulling for you.
Thanks, Bnrkwest. What are the rules with suggesting a site or shop? I'd like to know where to buy these juices. Every vendor is a bit different.
Just a quick update.
Here are my initial findings using Flash and Koolada.
Koolada gives a considerable kick, similar to TH - Cool and methol-ish. Overuse results in a lot of coughing and ugliness.
Flash doesn't do much but give an unpleasant taste.
Example: In a 3ml bottle of apple eliquid - 2 drops of Flash - nothing - another 2 drops and still nothing but an obscure flavor, no trace of apple remains and absolutely no punch or TH. Just to be sure I added another 2 drops. Nope.
So, for at least now Koolada wins.
Has anyone had a different experience?
Here are my initial findings using Flash and Koolada.
Koolada gives a considerable kick, similar to TH - Cool and methol-ish. Overuse results in a lot of coughing and ugliness.
Flash doesn't do much but give an unpleasant taste.
Example: In a 3ml bottle of apple eliquid - 2 drops of Flash - nothing - another 2 drops and still nothing but an obscure flavor, no trace of apple remains and absolutely no punch or TH. Just to be sure I added another 2 drops. Nope.
So, for at least now Koolada wins.
Has anyone had a different experience?
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I'm glad I ran across this post. I have been using the lowest nic level I can since I started vaping. I eventually want to drop to 0%. The responses in this pose was very informative.
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