Introducing the NEW Vapeonly 3.5ml BCC MEGA Bottom Coil Changeable Tank- In All Colors

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orbach

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If all a mechanical engineer can come up as a "redesign" is to make a device work for a different set of conditions and not work in the original conditions, he or she should find another job. A better design would, by definition, mean that the device works under a greater number of variations in the underlying conditions. So I agree with you 100%, making it work for me and not for you is not an option.

A possible redesign for bottom coils would be the addition of a more or less predictable juice flow control mechanism. For example, a small nut instead of the silicone cap over the coil chamber. Tightening the nut would restrict juice flow into the coil chamber and viceversa.

Nothing works for everyone. We all vape differently, draw differently, use different juices, wear different clothes. That doesn't mean that "the bottom coil design need a little more work".

The cartos that you mentioned that work great for you all don't for me, but the BCCs do work for me. Should they redesign the top coil cartos that you like so that they work for me?
 

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Re: Liquid feed and airflow control.

Years ago(many, many) I used to fly model airplanes on the wire thingeys, around and around in circles.

Anyhow, when we first got the engine started we would tweak the needle valve that controlled the fuel flow to the engine. We'd pretty much tweak it for max RPM, or close to it.

Wonder if anyone has played with the idea on these devices. Would add to degree of complication and cost, but.......?
 

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If you have some precision tools laying around you could tweak this tank to match how you want the airflow. Just like jetting carburetors, make the hole bigger if you want more flow. Obviously you cant drill a big hole and expect things to be perfect, go in very very very small increments and find what suits you the best. But remember, if you make the whole too big, there is no going back
 

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It seems to be rather sensitive to the type of juice. I decided to give it another shot as it obviously works well for many of you. I am currently vaping a different 100% VG juice from a different vendor and seems to be working fine with it, but I've only vaped about half a tank, we'll see.

Edit: I'm using my second head, the 2.8 ohm one and did NOT remove any wicks.

I only have one VapeOnly BCC. it has worked perfectly from day one. I use 60vg-40pg at 8-8.7watts. Never leaked,no dry hits,or burnt hits. I have filled 4 times. I'm Very happy with it. Going to order some more.


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It seems to be rather sensitive to the type of juice. I decided to give it another shot as it obviously works well for many of you. I am currently vaping a different 100% VG juice from a different vendor and seems to be working fine with it, but I've only vaped about half a tank, we'll see.

Edit: I'm using my second head, the 2.8 ohm one and did NOT remove any wicks.

I'd believe that most carto, clearo and atties are going to be made to work best with an average thickness e-liquid... such as an 80PG/20VG or perhaps a 70PG/30VG type. Thinner e-liquids then would be more likely to leak to an extent and thicker ones would then be more likely to wick slowly.

Having said that... there are a lot of other factors that aren't so easily to take into account. A very common example would be an e-liquid that is called 100% VG.... Obviously adding flavor would mean that the e-liquid is completely VG... but in addition, many flavors are extracted into PG and then added to the 100% VG base and are still labeled as 100% VG. Some other factors are things like something used to help thin a thicker liquid down... distilled water and alcohol are both commonly used for that purpose. E-liquids that have natural extractions ( tobacco, fruit other ) will also commonly have a lot of solids in them that can lead to them clogging the coils up quickly. I know that a good quality NET tobacco ( naturally extracted tobacco ) e-liquids like I often use will clog a tank in less than a tankful... which is why I got pretty excited when I found a rebuildable dripping atty at a local shop recently.

So to sum up what I've been trying to get at in this post... an e-liquid stated to be a certain percentage will still have other variables that must also be considered.
 

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Dear fellow gotvapers, I have recently purcased a vapeonly, it is working pretty good, lots of flavor and no leaking as of yet. My question is I am not getting alot of vapor production out of it, I do not want to turn up the power on it because when you do you can start to taste that off tasting toot, I do not really want to remove any of the wicking because I do not want it to start flooding and leaking. I am using a 80/20 mix pg/ vg so the liquid is already pretty thin, just wondering if this is normal. I can probubly live with it the way it is, but really would like to see more vapor come out of this thing. It is pretty outstanding. Is there something else to try that may help with the vapor production. Thanx for the help Ron R
 

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ron, what voltag are you at, what battery, also which ohm is the head coil on the vapeonly, if your on a ego battery and your using the 2.5, it might be low on vapor, so lets us know then we can help ya out. if you using the 1.8 ohm coil head in the vapeonly you should be getting great vapor atthe 3.7 volt area, if not you can remove one wick which ill show in a video
 

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was it an always burnt taste.. or after 4 or 5 draws in a row?

It was always burnt or dryish after a few draws, not really big ones either, I tried to baby it after the issue arose. Alas, it was all for nothing.

I tried, it didn't work out for me and so I moved on. I spend less time setting up a genny than I did trying to get that thing to work, that exceeds my standard effort for 10 dollar clears. So the evod gets my bottom coil dollar.

It's cool that other people are having good luck with it though.
 

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It was always burnt or dryish after a few draws, not really big ones either, I tried to baby it after the issue arose. Alas, it was all for nothing.

I tried, it didn't work out for me and so I moved on. I spend less time setting up a genny than I did trying to get that thing to work, that exceeds my standard effort for 10 dollar clears. So the evod gets my bottom coil dollar.

It's cool that other people are having good luck with it though.

Been there and got the t-shirt and it says ………… but not whining. That’s the way this whole market of beta testing [yes we are all beta testers, unless you’re using a carto most all this stuff is less than a year old, we’re talking a few months for BC’s] should be reporting Fury, thanks. Oh ya, the evod good for me too, so many frogs to kiss, so little time, got to at least love the ones that put on a hat after being kissed.
I’m thinking it’s a break-in problem not juice flow from the way the dry hits feel to me, going to give it another tank full.
 

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Last night I found that PBusardo recently uploaded a video review of the Vapeonly where he describes sucking up juice, like I experienced. He attributes this to low air flow. Maybe that's the problem with my unit. Although I don't think I was blocking its air vents, it does have a tight draw off the battery. It's a pretty detailed review worth watching:

 

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It was always burnt or dryish after a few draws, not really big ones either, I tried to baby it after the issue arose. Alas, it was all for nothing.

Fury83... I'm not picking on you or your post... it was just the latest one mentioning the issue... so with that said.


I got another Vapeonly tank recently from a different vendor ( threw it in to fill up my order budget ) and have just filled it for the first time earlier today. I filled it with Hush just as did my friend whom got hers from GV ( and also had filled with Hush ). On hers, using a ZMax... I never tasted/felt an issue with it being burnt and I've only heard good things from her since that time.

On the one I got from another source... I filled it, did a few dry pulls and as usual let it set for around 10 minutes. I put it on my VAMO and set it to 6w and within a few pulls... it seemed as if it was going to start tasting burnt so I dropped it down to 5w and it was better but not the best. I moved it over to my Kicked Bolt and tried it again and it was much better but while it took a bit longer... it started to get that burning feeling in my throat typical of it going dry again. I then pulled a thread out and retested on both the VAMO and Kicked Bolt and it was fine again.


These results make me think it through and I can only come up with a few possible reasons...

1. A batch issue... in otherwords, a problem with QC that indicates a coil problem on this one.
1a. Also a quality issue but because the unit was a "second" that hadn't completely passed the primary QC standards.

2. A more obsure direction... The differences seen in PWM devices vs a constant voltage device. A PWM device pulses the full voltage and the relative mean average ( RMS value ) of the pulses determine how much power is sent to the heads. A Kick has a pretty smooth PWM output but the VAMO pulses at a much slower frequency which could affect how the coil acts.

I suspect.. that #1 or #1a are the more likely causes... but wouldn't dismiss other directions that could answer it.

I do know that I haven't seen the same issue with the Evod's that I've gotten and used. It will be interesting to see if over time we see more or less reports of these issues ( percentage wise ). It will certainly be a good idea, if reported here again, to ask if the person got them from GotVapes or some other source to see if there is any info to be gleaned from that.
 
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