iPV Mini?

[ThunderDan]

Has anyone heard any rumors of them planning to start using stainless for the battery cap? I'm planning to pick a mini up soon but if it's something that's going to be addressed with future releases I think I'll wait.

Or even an aftermarket piece, it seems like it would be incredibly cheap and easy to offer a stainless cap! That chromed brass just looks so janky on such a beautiful device!

I'd wait for the v2, it should be out later this month / early Feb. Not sure if they addressed the battery cap, one would hope, but it should have a much better chip in it.

Edit:

Looks like "same body" I assume that includes battery cap.

ipv mini 2 features:

Same body style & size as the first version
1>SX330V2C chip
2>output power:5-70watt,3.6-8.5v
3>atomizer resistance:0.2ohm-3.0ohm
4>USB for charging

But definitely a nicer chip.

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[capitaomorsa]

I'm really let down by my Mini. The reading at lower ohm than the coil actually is, is a real problem. Do other people have this issue, or is it just my box? Since the Atlantis reads 0.4 ohm, 30 watts is weak as hell for me on the mini. The subtank works well at 30 watts reading at the same 0.4 ohms since it's less power hungry, but its just too big and gaudy. Can't believe the new istick 50 watt is even smaller and the same price. I would've waited.

If you Vape normally at 30w, you should have bought a more powerful device than the mini just to have some margin. Cheers

 

[crxess]

Has anyone heard any rumors of them planning to start using stainless for the battery cap? I'm planning to pick a mini up soon but if it's something that's going to be addressed with future releases I think I'll wait.

Or even an aftermarket piece, it seems like it would be incredibly cheap and easy to offer a stainless cap! That chromed brass just looks so janky on such a beautiful device!

Rumor is all it would be. An SS Cap would then eventually shred the Brass threaded ring it screws to.
Same unit - Different Chip - Higher Pricing

Still cannot believe how so many people are putting stock in iStick when the original was simply one of the most throw back units on the Market. I guess it was the Pretty Appeal, packaging that suckered so many. Yea, I was even looking.............until I got wind of 510 failures and poor regulation.
Thank goodness the Istick 50 is Larger and might actually sit decent under a 22mm tank/RDA. That would put them one step in front of Cloupor and on a cosmetic level with IPV.

If I Wanted a Nautilus on an EGO 450mah Battery, I'd be using one.

 

[fredrikstad]

I am personally hoping they will sell the current Mini for even cheaper to clear out inventory for the v2. If I can get a v1 for under 40 bucks I will pick another one up. I am usually around 13-17w and have a mech if I want to go below .5 ohms. I have no need for 50w or .1 ohm firing, but really do want a second IPV so I'm not constantly charging and discharging my only one.

You could buy another battery also.

 

[Major911]

Rumor is all it would be. An SS Cap would then eventually shred the Brass threaded ring it screws to.
Same unit - Different Chip - Higher Pricing

Still cannot believe how so many people are putting stock in iStick when the original was simply one of the most throw back units on the Market. I guess it was the Pretty Appeal, packaging that suckered so many. Yea, I was even looking.............until I got wind of 510 failures and poor regulation.
Thank goodness the Istick 50 is Larger and might actually sit decent under a 22mm tank/RDA. That would put them one step in front of Cloupor and on a cosmetic level with IPV.

If I Wanted a Nautilus on an EGO 450mah Battery, I'd be using one.

Just purchased one of the new istick 30w actually a very nice little device. They seem to have addressed all the issues of the 20w version and then some. 22/23mm devices actually look pretty good on the new top cap. And the powerlock and fast scroll are pretty slick too.

 

[Trailz]

The IPV Mini V2 has the same model chip as the IPV 2S which IMO is a great mod. The IPV 2S uses the SX330 2S whereas the IPV Mini 2 will use the SX 330 2C. I can't find on Yihi's web site (at least as of last week I didn't see it). Not sure I'm going to bite on the new iStick devices as I'm liking the external battery with USB pass through. I changed my Atlantis coil last night and the new one is still reading .4. I've changed to 50/50 juice which is great around 25W for me on the IPV Mini so things are good. If things look good with the IPV Mini V2, I'll most likely purchase one and sell the V1.

 

[Raguvian]

You could buy another battery also.

I do have two extra batteries but I keep those for my mechanical mod. I suppose in a pinch I could always just swap the batteries but for now I just use the IPV in pass-through mode.

 

[crxess]

Just purchased one of the new istick 30w actually a very nice little device. They seem to have addressed all the issues of the 20w version and then some. 22/23mm devices actually look pretty good on the new top cap. And the powerlock and fast scroll are pretty slick too.

But does the New Top look right on the Body? Reminds me of a Boat bow.
Is the top still Chromed Brass?
Has it been corrected to RMS output?
<And the powerlock and fast scroll are pretty slick too.> Frills, nice but only after correction real issues.

Already getting reports of Cloupor Mini Failures. Looks like we are all suffering Market competition Degradation.

1) Produce a Mod that FUNCTIONS as Advertised
2) Produce a Mod that does not Strip parts constantly - 510s, Battery Closures, etc.
3) Send Samples to Qualified USER/REVIEWERS for Critique
5) Pay attention and Modify Per Critiques
6) Ship something we can ALL enjoy

Yea, Right

 

[Major911]

But does the New Top look right on the Body? Reminds me of a Boat bow.
Is the top still Chromed Brass?
Has it been corrected to RMS output?
<And the powerlock and fast scroll are pretty slick too.> Frills, nice but only after correction real issues.

Already getting reports of Cloupor Mini Failures. Looks like we are all suffering Market competition Degradation.

1) Produce a Mod that FUNCTIONS as Advertised
2) Produce a Mod that does not Strip parts constantly - 510s, Battery Closures, etc.
3) Send Samples to Qualified USER/REVIEWERS for Critique
5) Pay attention and Modify Per Critiques
6) Ship something we can ALL enjoy

Yea, Right

Does have the slight boat bow appearance but 22mm atty's look sharp on it. Top cap is still chrome but 510 threads are now SS. And the post is spring loaded. I dont hear the rattlesnaking like before which makes me wonder if its still PWM or not. As far as mean goes i can notice that it doesnt seem overpowered anymore. The original istick i had to run eveything 1 watt lower than normal. This one is dead on and im running eveything where it should be again. Seems to be a solid device. Time will tell

 

[fredrikstad]

Well, I'm on my main IPV mini right now.
My Omega RDA .54ohm build is reading .5 at 30w 4.1v

So yea, Taking into consideration the (2)place variance and chip efficiency, I'd say this one is Damn close.

Now, I have said it several times. IF your unit is reading more than .1 off..........................RETURN IT.
If you can live with .1 then anything above .6 should deliver the full 30w
If you want a mod to deliver 30w all day long, the logical choice would be a 50w mod.
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Now, I have clearly seen variances from RTA to RTA and RDA to RDA.
Perhaps there is a contact issue or something going on.<not logical and should read higher, not lower>
Perhaps the unit is slowly seasoning and becoming more accurate.
I DON"T KNOW
I just know tanks are starting to show proper ohms more regularly than when new.

Mine is reading 0.5 every time too. I use it with an genuine VTC5, maybe the battery have something to say? I don`t know at all.

 

[crxess]

Does have the slight boat bow appearance but 22mm atty's look sharp on it. Top cap is still chrome but 510 threads are now SS. And the post is spring loaded. I dont hear the rattlesnaking like before which makes me wonder if its still PWM or not. As far as mean goes i can notice that it doesnt seem overpowered anymore. The original istick i had to run eveything 1 watt lower than normal. This one is dead on and im running eveything where it should be again. Seems to be a solid device. Time will tell

Great to hear they are at least listening to some of the feedback/flack from customers/venders.
Spring loaded is a real improvement. One that is Value Added!
Also sounds like it now Has an Insert for the 510 in SS(?) another positive move. - Still cannot believe Manufacturers keep pushing Chromed Brass at us in any Step Up Mod. Yes, Ego type batteries make since as they are disposable anyway. (Don't need a Bic with a Stirling Case - lol)
iStick Thread indicates the unit is likely still PWM and may still deliver overpower hits(on lesser atomizers) Likely the Frequency has been raised which helps smooth things out. eVic was 400hz and never had sound/heat issues.

PWM in itself is not a bad thing and is used in many applications. It is more about the Frequency and power calculations to achieve final output.

 

[ThunderDan]

Mine is reading 0.5 every time too. I use it with an genuine VTC5, maybe the battery have something to say? I don`t know at all.

Hmm, I'll try throwing in a VTC5 to see if that makes a difference, I doubt it, but its worth trying since I have a couple. We've been using 25Rs in it thus far.


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[crxess]

Hmm, I'll try throwing in a VTC5 to see if that makes a difference, I doubt it, but its worth trying since I have a couple. We've been using 25Rs in it thus far.


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I have also been using the 25R's and they seem to perform just fine.
I have also found I can run the Panasonic CGR's for most settings below 25w without even getting them warm.

 

[fredrikstad]

Has anyone heard any rumors of them planning to start using stainless for the battery cap? I'm planning to pick a mini up soon but if it's something that's going to be addressed with future releases I think I'll wait.

Or even an aftermarket piece, it seems like it would be incredibly cheap and easy to offer a stainless cap! That chromed brass just looks so janky on such a beautiful device!

I agreed with you. Unfortenantly, we (the consumers) are the ones who "ask" them to put out devices in a stupid race, because we purchase them at a faster rate then they are able to deliver. And they are there to make money on a industry, that may, or may not lost for so long.

 

[fredrikstad]

Hmm, I'll try throwing in a VTC5 to see if that makes a difference, I doubt it, but its worth trying since I have a couple. We've been using 25Rs in it thus far.


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Great. Hope you let us know, if you find any differnce? I just guessed, as I know nothing about this, and can`t even notice any significant change in taste, from 15 to 25 eihter, just in vaper production.

 

[ThunderDan]

Great. Hope you let us know, if you find any differnce? I just guessed, as I know nothing about this, and can`t even notice any significant change in taste, from 15 to 25 eihter, just in vaper production.

Got home tonight and tried a VTC5 in the IPV mini. Still reading the Atlantis the exact same way at .4 ohm. Oh well, it was worth a try.

Also put my inline voltage meter on the IPV mini at 30w with the Atlantis, and it read 3.97-4.00v, vs the displayed output of 3.8v. Grabbed my IPV 2x and tried that at 30w, and got 4.29-4.31v on the inline meter. To me that explains why I felt like the mini was underpowered at 30w. Dang IPV 2X is more overpowered than the mini is underpowered.

Now I know those inline voltage meters aren't necessarily accurate, but I think taking the same atty, and meter on different mods should be fairly descent for comparison purposes.

Either way, I guess its not that big of a deal as it still does fire the Atlantis, and it does get dang close to 30 if you trust that 4.0v.

Oh, and for fun, I slapped the inline meter and Atlantis contraption on our Cana 30, and got ~3.35v on it at 30w vs the displayed 4.1v. Haha, so the IPV mini does at least spank that thing.

[edit]
Oh, for reference the Atlantis reads at .544 ohm on my cheapo 510 ohm reader.

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[crxess]

ThunderDan, sounds like you have solved a bit of the mystery. A little under here, a little over there. Things start to look much worse than they are.
We still have the single decimal place issue. No telling if the mini is reading .4 or reporting .49 as .4ohm. this could have a broad effect on actual outcome also.

I just recoiled one of my Magma RDA's using Coil Toy as a reference.
2.4mm coils @ 8 wraps each Should come out to .61ohm
Legs are very short in a magma so no added influence beyond normal
Mini has it nailed at .6ohm
Cheapo ohm meter claims .73ohm
DVOM is down with unknown High resistance readings. Maybe a lead needs repair or battery fading. I have to get to it soon.

What started out as Vaping to quit smoking is getting expensive and over complicated.

 

[ThunderDan]

ThunderDan, sounds like you have solved a bit of the mystery. A little under here, a little over there. Things start to look much worse than they are.
We still have the single decimal place issue. No telling if the mini is reading .4 or reporting .49 as .4ohm. this could have a broad effect on actual outcome also.

I just recoiled one of my Magma RDA's using Coil Toy as a reference.
2.4mm coils @ 8 wraps each Should come out to .61ohm
Legs are very short in a magma so no added influence beyond normal
Mini has it nailed at .6ohm
Cheapo ohm meter claims .73ohm
DVOM is down with unknown High resistance readings. Maybe a lead needs repair or battery fading. I have to get to it soon.

What started out as Vaping to quit smoking is getting expensive and over complicated.

Indeed, I think I have at least sorted out the reason why I felt a discrepancy between the different IPVs at the same wattage.

I do still tend to think that some minis have a genuine issue reading the ohms correctly, but in the end it doesn't seem to matter much.

I am fairly sure ours was one of the first batches to come to the US, pre-orderd from vapor range, and got it in early Dec, don't recall the exact date. Maybe batches since that point have fixed the issue, or maybe its just hit or miss.

And yes, I agree 100% with your closing sentiment.

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[Trailz]

Mine was a first batch from elev8, both the original and replacement read the Atlantis coil at .4. Curious as well to see whether newer batches have the same issue. Still happy with this device.

 

[ThunderDan]

Another thing I noticed earlier when I put the inline voltage meter on the Atlantis and mini earlier was at 3.0v on the mini the meter read 3.9v. Again I know that isn't the best test, but leads me to think this doesn't buck voltage like the specs indicate.

We'll find out more about that after Phil's review.