Is anyone getting a false "low battery" flashing led?

[LegioX]

Ok so I got the email from Provape. They said it is normal for the LED to start flashing at around 3.7, and it is to alert you that the battery is getting low. At 3.5, the battery is supposed to shutoff. If you reinstall the battery after 3.5, it may begin to recharge a little bit and give some more lifetime out of it, but ultimately at this point the battery needs recharging, and the Provari won't let you overdrain the charge of the battery (which is a good thing). Reinstalling the battery multiple times can provide extra power in times of dire needs, but can't be good for the battery is the message I get.

So...since I got the new spring and cleaned my Provari out, according to the above summarization I got from Provape, my Provari seems to be working in accordance with how it was intended. So I still feel the new spring has definitely helped, as previously I was getting shutoffs at like 3.8, and I won't be sending mine in for repairs. The spring has helped with the very early shut offs, and apparently when the unit shuts off and you reinstall battery, a 'battery in need of charging' should read about 3.5-3.6? For some reason I always thought it would go to 3.3, but I guess this was mixed up with the range of voltage settings. Can anyone confirm it will never read less than about 3.5-.6?

Thanks for all the help everyone, and thanks to Provape for allowing me to own a Provari. Couldn't enjoy vaping like this any other way.

 

[Vaporologist]

@LegioX

I keep my Lo feature at Off now simply because I don't like seeing the button light up every time I vape. Because of that I don't get the early warning flashing which is supposed to happen at 3.5V. My ProVari starts flashing at the same time it shuts off and the Cb reading is at 3.3V and 3.4V (3.3V most of the time). I was getting the early shut off between 3.5V and 3.7V for a while but a complete clean up and bi-monthly maintenance has resolved that issue for me. And btw, I'm still using the original spring that came with the unit. That's just my experience.

 

[ukeman]

did you do that by turning the LED off?
I did that thinking it was only for when i press to vape... to save batt.
didn't know i was cancelling early blink warning... ?
maybe that's why my batts, after 6 to7 months are starting to give me about 30% less vape times.

@LegioX

I keep my Lo feature at Off now simply because I don't like seeing the button light up every time I vape. Because of that I don't get the early warning flashing which is supposed to happen at 3.5V. My ProVari starts flashing at the same time it shuts off and the Cb reading is at 3.3V and 3.4V (3.3V most of the time). I was getting the early shut off between 3.5V and 3.7V for a while but a complete clean up and bi-monthly maintenance has resolved that issue for me. And btw, I'm still using the original spring that came with the unit. That's just my experience.

 

[LegioX]

@LegioX

I keep my Lo feature at Off now simply because I don't like seeing the button light up every time I vape. Because of that I don't get the early warning flashing which is supposed to happen at 3.5V. My ProVari starts flashing at the same time it shuts off and the Cb reading is at 3.3V and 3.4V (3.3V most of the time). I was getting the early shut off between 3.5V and 3.7V for a while but a complete clean up and bi-monthly maintenance has resolved that issue for me. And btw, I'm still using the original spring that came with the unit. That's just my experience.

Hrm really? Interesting lol. Maybe mines really not clean enough. I need an ultra clean method or something I guess. Thanks.

 

[DuncanDisordely]

Sorry I haven't read through all the posts, using phone internet connection and usage nearly up! Anyway I wanted to say this happens to me ALL the time when I take a big (8-12 seconds) lug off my riva 901, the battery must notice the massive drop in power but I just let the atty cool down (while I choke and smile) then it carries on good as before.

Happy Vaping!

 

[Vaporologist]

did you do that by turning the LED off?
I did that thinking it was only for when i press to vape... to save batt.
didn't know i was cancelling early blink warning... ?
maybe that's why my batts, after 6 to7 months are starting to give me about 30% less vape times.

If I remember correctly, your Provar(s) is/are from the earlier runs. I remember reading a post from Vape360 (I think) that a change was implemented at a later date modifying the "Lo" feature. From what I understand, earlier units still gave the low battery warning even with the LED turned off while "newer" units don't.

It's pretty easy to find out which ones you have. With LED turned off, do your ProVaris shut off when the button starts blinking or are you able to keep vaping without taking the battery out and put it back in?

 

[LegioX]

@LegioX

I keep my Lo feature at Off now simply because I don't like seeing the button light up every time I vape. Because of that I don't get the early warning flashing which is supposed to happen at 3.5V. My ProVari starts flashing at the same time it shuts off and the Cb reading is at 3.3V and 3.4V (3.3V most of the time). I was getting the early shut off between 3.5V and 3.7V for a while but a complete clean up and bi-monthly maintenance has resolved that issue for me. And btw, I'm still using the original spring that came with the unit. That's just my experience.

Can I ask what method you used to clean it? Are you basically hitting the positive contact point, all threads, batteries, etc with that alcohol? I may be having trouble reaching the positive battery contact and successfully scraping off any residue which seems to have been there since I got it, if its dirt at all.

 

[Vaporologist]

Can I ask what method you used to clean it? Are you basically hitting the positive contact point, all threads, batteries, etc with that alcohol? I may be having trouble reaching the positive battery contact and successfully scraping off any residue which seems to have been there since I got it, if its dirt at all.

I really haven't been cleaning the positive contact point much, just once with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol. If you remember, last week I was curious of which method are you using. My cleaning has mostly consisted of keeping the bottom end clean at all times.

Recently, I stopped using Noalox on all my MODs which are all Stainless Steel. I just got tired of the weekly bath ritual which was necessary since Noalox starts getting thick and gunky on the threads after just a few days and requires constant cleaning and reapplying. I wiped off all threads really well and gave them a dish soap and rotating toothbrush bath to remove all the Noalox. Now I find that the maintenance required is minimal. It consists of a monthly soap bath and a bi-weekly spring removal and cleaning with rubbing alcohol. That's all I do. Hope this helps.

Edit: Btw, I clean the 510 adapter threads once or twice a day with a rolled up tissue or paper towel and clean them with alcohol bi-monthly...

 

[LegioX]

I really haven't been cleaning the positive contact point much, just once with a q-tip and rubbing alcohol. If you remember, last week I was curious of which method are you using. My cleaning has mostly consisted of keeping the bottom end clean at all times.

Recently, I stopped using Noalox on all my MODs which are all Stainless Steel. I just got tired of the weekly bath ritual which was necessary since Noalox starts getting thick and gunky on the threads after just a few days and requires constant cleaning and reapplying. I wiped off all threads really well and gave them a dish soap and rotating toothbrush bath to remove all the Noalox. Now I find that the maintenance required is minimal. It consists of a monthly soap bath and a bi-weekly spring removal and cleaning with rubbing alcohol. That's all I do. Hope this helps.

Edit: Btw, I clean the 510 adapter threads once or twice a day with a rolled up tissue or paper towel and clean them with alcohol bi-monthly...

Awesome, thanks. Just did about all of that, except for the noalox which i had applied the other day, i took a firm paint brush with 90% isopropyl and cleaned it off the threads, no soap and water. I really got in there to the positive contact with a super firm paintbrush with a dab of isopropyl. Also got battery and charger contact points.

Do you ever get a screeching noise when you screw your end cap in when it has 0 noalox?

Well, I honestly don't think I can clean my Provari out any better than I just did, except posssiblyyy the threads, but I mean the noalox is supposed to work anyways. So I'll see tonight, leaving LED on. If it still shutoffs at 3.5, I can't say I'm disappointed, since yesterday that lasted me from 10 am to 12 pm. Still...it vexes me

 

[mwa102464]

Seems to me that Noalox on the threads of the bottom cap should NOT effect the electrical connections or performance what so ever on the Provari or any unit.

 

[ScottinSoCal]

Seems to me that Noalox on the threads of the bottom cap should NOT effect the electrical connections or performance what so ever on the Provari or any unit.

'specially seeing as how they add zinc to it, just to make it conductive.

If it's smearing all over the place, you're using way too much of it. I put a small dab (smaller around than a pencil eraser) on my finger and smear it into the grooves of the ProVari unit. None at all on the end cap. That little bit is more than enough to get into the grooves and keep things working smoothly. About 1/3 of what I put on my finger is still on my finger when I'm done, and I just wipe that off on a rag.

 

[LegioX]

So my unit just shutoff at 3.5 afterall the cleaning I did to it. This makes me wonder if certain units are just intended to do that, like older/newer models fuction normally. Provape themselves e-mailed me saying 3.5 is when battery should shut off, but i see people here taking the flash at 3.4 and shutoff at 3.3. I don't know who how to believe, or what to do.

Going to give a dish wash scrub to threads and reinstall battery. I'm at an ends here.What would ya'll do.

 

[mwa102464]

LegioX,

The AW IMR 18650 is not to be discharged under 3.5, what yours is doing sounds fine to me, I wouldn't even let mine get to 3.5 and usually pull mine at 3.8 or so and throw it on the charger.

 

[LegioX]

AH! E4 error after cleaning threads with dishwasher on a brush. noooooooooo what to do? Also got an e8 code. I actually got it to first once with a different battery but now this ones doing the same thing.

 

[Vaporologist]

LegioX,

The AW IMR 18650 is not to be discharged under 3.5, what yours is doing sounds fine to me, I wouldn't even let mine get to 3.5 and usually pull mine at 3.8 or so and throw it on the charger.

I always thought that IMR batts can be discharged up to and not lower than 2.5V, at least according to the battery specs:

AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery

Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 1600mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 4.5A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 10C

 

[Vaporologist]

AH! E4 error after cleaning threads with soap and dish water. noooooooooo what to do

There are only 16 minutes between your last two posts. I'm not sure you've had enough time to let everything dry completely. I hope you washed just the bottom cap and not the whole unit...

 

[mwa102464]

it also says if your read further =

Caution:
- Do not over-discharge/overcharge
- Recharge empty batteries ( resting voltage ~3.6V ) as soon as possible. Leaving LiIon batteries in discharged state will incur irreversible damage ( capacity / cycle loss )
- Do not short circuit ( will release tremendous current )
- Do not dispose of in fire.

Never should they be taken down to 2.5v, I dont know why it states that, but it says lowest discharge so I'm not positive if that means before failure or what.

And with that being said in the specs to "Recharge empty Batteries ( Resting voltage - 3.6V ) I pull mine at 3.8 or try to because I really dont want to bring them down to that 3.6v level and fully discharge them

 

[LegioX]

LegioX,

The AW IMR 18650 is not to be discharged under 3.5, what yours is doing sounds fine to me, I wouldn't even let mine get to 3.5 and usually pull mine at 3.8 or so and throw it on the charger.

I like this. Would be happy with that. I dont know WHAT the hell I did, but now I'm getting e8 e4 codes. Going to let it sit a for a while and go back to it. I shot some compressed up there.

 

[mwa102464]

LegioX,

Do you have a meter to check your Batts when you get these codes ? if so, you should right down what codes you are getting and at what voltage the batt is at when you get them. Then speak to someone at Provape and see what they say, this would be my suggestion to you.

 

[LegioX]

LegioX,

Do you have a meter to check your Batts when you get these codes ? if so, you should right down what codes you are getting and at what voltage the batt is at when you get them. Then speak to someone at Provape and see what they say, this would be my suggestion to you.

I checked the batteries, one is 3.5 and one is 4.2. I managed to fire a pull off the 4.2 batt then error persists.