Is e-smoking bad for you?

[camci]

I want someone's honest answer.
Do you think that if you vaped maybe 4 hours everyday for the rest of your life (or until you get sick of it in a couple decades) that you will start getting health issues, just like with analogs?

Don't get me wrong I love my new 510 and am waiting for my first juices to come in, I just feel like i'm becoming really really addicted like I did with analogs the first time I tried them when I was 16.

 

[Houdini]

It hasn't been around long enough for anyone to know about future health issues. But compared to tobacco I think it's far safer. You are pretty much assured to have health issues if you keep smoking cigarettes. I'll stick with vaping. Cutting it down to zero nicotine bit at a time and eventually quit vaping too.
Oh, and I've been vaping a lot longer than 4 hours a day and for nearly 9 months and I feel 100x better than I did when I smoked cigarettes.

 

[kristin]

Well, unlike tobacco smoke, the EPA has tested propylene glycol to be safe for human inhalation.

ANYTHING you put in your body could potentially be harmful. They haven't figured out what causes a lot of diseases and cancers. For all we know, it could be long-term exposure to the fluoride in the water - who knows??

Everything in moderation is always a safer bet. But NOTHING is 100% safe. NOTHING.

 

[greenie]

good point kristin

 

[Fr0st8it3]

I dont think its "healthy" but IMO its healthier then normal cigs.

 

[Porphy]

Do you think that if you vaped maybe 4 hours everyday for the rest of your life (or until you get sick of it in a couple decades) that you will start getting health issues, just like with analogs?

You could replace that action with just about any other action and have concerns:

Jumped - knee issues, osteoarthritis
Played video games - obesity, poor eye sight, CTS
Filed paperwork - CTS, osteoarthritis, chronic paper cuts 8-o
Window licking -
etc. -
etc. -

I believe vaping to be healthier by leaps and bounds over analog smoking. I believe I am better off now and in the long term for making this lifestyle choice.

 

[yknotagain]

4,000 chemicals vs a handful - IMHO I don't think there's any doubt.

 

[Wellner]

Window licking? I would have some concerns about a person mental condition that causes them to do that in the first place.

As everyone else has said, nothing is safe. Everything has it's risks. You can roll onto something in your sleep that punctures your eye and goes a bit further to damage your brain. Yes, that is a very extreme, but it's possible, man.

All research aside, I feel better. My body is reacting as if I went cold turkey, which is the sign choice made that won't kill me as fast if at all.

 

[kristin]

Like I've said elsewhere - PVs are not meant to be 100% safe, they are meant to be harm reduction as compared to tobacco smoking.

Using a parachute is not 100% safe, but it's less risk than jumping out of a plane without one!

 

[RobNJ74]

Healthy? That remains to be seen. Healthier than a regular cigarette? I have to say in my opinion yes. I can breathe easier and don't hack in the mornings like I use to, my blood pressure dropped 10 points and my triglycrides are down.. Not sure how or even if the triglycrides being lower is related but it's lower and that's the only change I have made so I'll go with it.

Rob

 

[erik16]

Would you rather keep smoking tobacco cigarettes and inhaling 4,000 chemicals and other deadly carcinogens or inhale water vapor? Only reason why the FDA hasn't approved them is because they can't tax and make money off of them yet. Once they find a way to make money on them then watch how fast the electronic cigarettes will be approved.

 

[Wellner]

If you can tax it, oppress it. Too bad some of their arguments have some solid ground, only if you don't expand your view on them.

I think it doesn't hurt to say it's the safest form to inhale nicotine.

 

[frankie1]

Rob: My triglycerides normalized also. 3 months ago they were not because of smoking!

OP: I had a check up 3 months ago. Doc prescribed Chantix. I refused to fill the script...scared. Picked up an e cig and started vaping but have NOT completely quit analogs, still smoke 3 -5 per day. Went back to doc and his statement was that my lungs sound better than they have in 10 years. Almost completely clear. Ordered blood tests again and everything came back completely normal.

IDK if it is safe....but I feel better, can breathe better and doc is now sold on my continuing to use them! Oh yeah...he said it was OK to stay up late, sleep in and nap too!!! Love my doc!!

 

[RobNJ74]

Oh yeah...he said it was OK to stay up late, sleep in and nap too!!! Love my doc!!

Maybe Your Dr and my Wife should have a consult..lol

Rob

 

[Kent C]

From the safety sheet from Dow Chem:

Product Name: PROPYLENE GLYCOL USP/EP Issue Date: 05/31/2007

Storage
Store away from direct sunlight or ultraviolet light. Keep container tightly closed when not in use.
Store in a dry place. Protect from atmospheric moisture. Store in the following material(s): Stainless
steel. Aluminum. Plasite 3066 lined container. 316 stainless steel. Opaque HDPE plastic container.
Shelf life: Use within Maximum storage
temperature
24 Months 40 °C

15. Regulatory Information
OSHA Hazard Communication Standard
This product is not a "Hazardous Chemical" as defined by the OSHA Hazard Communication Standard, 29 CFR 1910.1200.
Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986 Title III (Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act of 1986) Sections 311 and 312
Immediate (Acute) Health Hazard No
Delayed (Chronic) Health Hazard No
Fire Hazard No
Reactive Hazard No
Sudden Release of Pressure Hazard No

Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986 Title III (Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act of 1986) Section 313
To the best of our knowledge, this product does not contain chemicals at levels which require reporting under this statute.

Pennsylvania (Worker and Community Right-To-Know Act): Pennsylvania Hazardous Substances List and/or Pennsylvania Environmental Hazardous Substance List:
The following product components are cited in the Pennsylvania Hazardous Substance List and/or the Pennsylvania Environmental Substance List, and are present at levels which require reporting.
Component CAS # Amount
Propylene glycol 57-55-6 > 99.8 %
Pennsylvania (Worker and Community Right-To-Know Act): Pennsylvania Special Hazardous Substances List:
To the best of our knowledge, this product does not contain chemicals at levels which require reporting under this statute.

Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980 (CERCLA) Section 103
To the best of our knowledge, this product does not contain chemicals at levels which require reporting under this statute.

US. EPA Emergency Planning and Community Right-To-Know Act (EPCRA) SARA Title III Section 302 Extremely Hazardous Substance (40 CFR 355, Appendix A)
To the best of our knowledge, this product does not contain chemicals at levels which require reporting under this statute.

California Proposition 65 (Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986)
This product contains no listed substances known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm, at levels which would require a warning under the statute.

US. Toxic Substances Control Act
All components of this product are on the TSCA Inventory or are exempt from TSCA Inventory requirements under 40 CFR 720.30

CEPA - Domestic Substances List (DSL)
All substances contained in this product are listed on the Canadian Domestic Substances List (DSL) or are not required to be listed.

European Inventory of Existing Commercial Chemical Substances (EINECS)
The components of this product are on the EINECS inventory or are exempt from inventory requirements.

 

[NaviRahu]

Oh duh... Every chemical has a safety sheet thing. I forget what they're called, though. I never even thought about looking it up.

Odd note: I had a friend tell me yesterday to hold off on the e-cig because while he was in line somewhere they started talking about e-cigs and some guy told him the by-product of it was antifreeze. I knew that things get skewed from one person to another, but wow! I set the story straight, but it's scary that information like that is bring spread about the e-cigs.

 

[LoBo]

I guess all of us vapers are just human guinea pigs lol

those safety sheets are called MSDS (material safety data sheet) but remember they outline the hazards of 100% pure chemicals.

here is one I found one propylene glycol
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Propylene_glycol-9927239

 

[cerios]

We do'nt know about long term use yet but I know my morning hack session is gone,and I had it bad. I'm willing to gamble with this over something that is proven to kill me.

 

[RobNJ74]

Oh duh... Every chemical has a safety sheet thing. I forget what they're called, though. I never even thought about looking it up.

Odd note: I had a friend tell me yesterday to hold off on the e-cig because while he was in line somewhere they started talking about e-cigs and some guy told him the by-product of it was antifreeze. I knew that things get skewed from one person to another, but wow! I set the story straight, but it's scary that information like that is bring spread about the e-cigs.

M.S.D.S. Material Safety Data Sheet

 

[Wellner]

Oh duh... Every chemical has a safety sheet thing. I forget what they're called, though. I never even thought about looking it up.

Odd note: I had a friend tell me yesterday to hold off on the e-cig because while he was in line somewhere they started talking about e-cigs and some guy told him the by-product of it was antifreeze. I knew that things get skewed from one person to another, but wow! I set the story straight, but it's scary that information like that is bring spread about the e-cigs.

Wow, I'm not at all surprised to hear this, but it just is aggravating. Stories turn into rumors, then rumors turn into stories. Reminds me of the Oreo Cakester commercial.

YouTube - Oreo Cakester commercial

Inhale an ingredients for antifreeze...but don't analogs contain ingredients for rat poison, or is that just another rumor?