Is my 30W Clone dying already?

[footbag]

I bought a box mod dna 30 clone from a local Vape store. I got it the week before Christmas.

I'm noticing that there is a long delay after pushing the button and when the coils is warm enough to produce vape. Close to two seconds.

Is this a sign of anything with these devices? I've switched batteries. I haven't changed the coil in the clearo yet.

 

[Necrotic]

sounds like it could be the coil. Usually when the coils start getting bad they will take a while to heat up.

 

[HecticEnergy]

What resistance coil is it? How old is it? what wattage are you set to?
I hate it when new gear doesn't work right

 

[crxess]

May be nothing more than not knowing when to do what to maintain a good vape.

Coil Gunked up will act just like a Bad Battery or Weak Regulated output. The coil can become incrusted in hardened materials that are slow to heat and slow to cool. Ruining the vape and the liquid left in the tank.

 

[Ringo®]

Does it do it all the time or are you just noticing the "wake" feature.

 

[footbag]

I'm testing it out now. It seemed like some sort of slow wake. I push the button and it does nothing for two seconds then starts up as usual.

I just changed the battery again. This time it's firing fine.

The coil is .5 ohms @ 25w on an Atlantis. But it also did it on my Subtank. 15w on the subtank and that's new.

Could the device not like my Efest 2000mah 18650's?

 

[HecticEnergy]

whats the amp rating on those efests?

 

[yzer]

I wouldn't use red Efest 18650 2000mAh for sub ohm. But then I don't sub ohm, so what do I know? It's fine for lower wattage devices like Sigelei Zmax or the 3-15W Vamos. I believe it's a 10A battery.

 

[folkphys]

Some of these DNA clones will not fire directly from sleep. One click to wake up. Pause. Second click to fire. Also, does anything flash on the screen when firing?

 

[footbag]

OK. I have one purple Efest and was planning on picking up some other batteries. It seems to only happen on the reds, but not every time.

I think the Ohm was flashing on the screen, but it said .6ohm. That is what it 's supposed to be.

 

[HecticEnergy]

I wouldn't use the reds with that low ohms. use steam-engine.org to figure your amps and you will see you are probably drawing way more than they are rated for. samsung 25r's or sony vtc 4s are great batteries, just make sure you get authentics from a reputable source like rtdvapes or ilumination supply or sunvapers, not eBay or amazon. I think the purple efests are rewrapped lg he 2's which are decent, but 20amp batteries.. VTC4s are 30amp, and 25r's are 25(?) amps

 

[folkphys]

Flashing ohms means your device is no longer "regulating" its output voltage because you've not selected a wattage high enough to meet its minimum voltage output (4v is my guess). In this situation there's no telling what kind of power your actually getting, which would likely depend on the chip's error state coding and/or whatever voltage is left on the battery. It could also simply be throttling down to a set 3.5 - 3.7 volts which I've seen some of these DNA30 clones do.

And yes, red Efests bad, purple efests somewhat better but still not reliably good in my experience.

 

[footbag]

Flashing ohms means your device is no longer "regulating" its output voltage because you've not selected a wattage high enough to meet its minimum voltage output (4v is my guess). In this situation there's no telling what kind of power your actually getting, which would likely depend on the chip's error state coding and/or whatever voltage is left on the battery. It could also simply be throttling down to a set 3.5 - 3.7 volts which I've seen some of these DNA30 clones do.

Ok... At 27w or 4v it stops flashing on the .5 ohm.

Does that mean running it at 27w with the low ohms is safer?

 

[folkphys]

Safer? Not really. But at least you know what you're getting. And if that 4v is too hot for you, the only thing you can do is recoil your atomizer to a higher resistance such that 4v is no longer intolerable.

I would also keep an eye out for your box cutting off mid-vape or randomly resetting itself. You'll know it has reset itself if you look down at the screen after a toot and the ohms are sitting at 0.0 as if you just put a new battery in. As I've seen it, this usually means that the device doesn't like the battery. Which isn't always the battery's fault.

 

[crxess]

Samsung R25's are 20A continuous 2500ma batteries with a Pulse rating of 100a(Tested) and are a Very good option.

 

[folkphys]

The thing is: most of these devices specify an max input current of ~ 13amps which means the average shopkeep will feel perfectly justified in recommending a less than good battery to use in it.

Right now those Samsung 25r's are one of most available and in my experience reliable options.

 

[tFOrRESTee]

OK. I have one purple Efest and was planning on picking up some other batteries. It seems to only happen on the reds, but not every time.

I think the Ohm was flashing on the screen, but it said .6ohm. That is what it 's supposed to be.

My efests have been performing great from .3 to .7 ohms and from 25 watts to 75 watts on my sigelei 100+. Check this out, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion/625863-sigelei-100w-owners-thread-42.html, and don't let the battery police scare you, lol.

 

[HecticEnergy]

Everything with vaping is at your own risk. Personally I value my face and hands enough not to risk battery abuse. Doesn't mean I think running at 30 amps on a 20 amp battery the first time WILL blow my hand off? Of course not, but it is much more likely to happen... Same reason I wear a helmet on my motorcycle in a no helmet law state, and put my seatbelt on when getting in the car... Just a protection, a hedge against crap happening. Things don't always go as you plan or expect, so it's better to hedge against it.
Can you exceed the continuous amp limit without blowing your hand off? Probably, but you could also steer a car with your feet without crashing... That doesn't make it a good idea.
Just like driving your car with your feet on city streets (but unlike not wearing your seatbelt), taking your super sub ohm build that exceeds the C rating in a battery puts the safety of others at more of a risk. If something catastrophic does happen, it just gives FDA more ammo to deceive non users of the dangers of ecigarettes... And ofcourse seriously hurt others...
"Battery police?" Meh, sure if you wanna call it that, but we can't lock you up for not listening . It's more about concern for others and wanting to protect vaping from any additional bad press... But mostly about the former



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[folkphys]

That^.

And: I particularly am not saying that efests aren't safe in a ChiNA but simply that the ones I've tested in three different boxes underperformed (output voltage-wise) compared to the 25r's and VTC's.