Is my math correct ? Newbie question

[Mazinny]

If i mix 1000ml of pg, 500 ml of vg and 250 ml of 100mg nicotine in vg base, would i get 1750 ml of unflavored nicotine juice at 58/42 pg/vg and 14.3 mg/ml nicotine strength ?

The reason i ask is i found a site that i can purchase the above for $ 67.50 total, and want to do the preliminary math before i do research on the flavor extracts.

Second question, if i were to make it simple and just add one flavor to the above approximately how many ml of flavor extract would i need to purchase to add to 1750 ml of unflavored juice ? I realize that flavors come in different concentrations and people have different tastes as to the strength of the flavor they require, but a range would be very helpful. Price range, would also be helpful. Also do most flavorings come in a pg base ?

i know, that diy is not as simple as that, but i am simplifying, just to make a decision if i wanna get into this.

Last question, how do alcohol and distilled water come into the equation. How come some sites advertise their juices as 50/50 pg/vg for example, while listing distilled water as an ingredient. Wouldn't the percentages add up to more than 100.

I would appreciate any help, and please do not bother to tell me to read all the stickys and threads, if that is your answer. I will definitely do that, once i make a decision to get into diy

 

[Hoosier]

Calculations are good. My recipes range from 0.35% to 35% flavoring.

You wanted a range and that's a range.

There's plenty of reading to do...

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[Steamix]

Got the math right.

Flavours go anywhere from 0.5% to even 15%. For this you will have to dige here and elsewhere for some house numbers, a each flavour is different. Even the same flavour from different manufacturers can produce completely different results. Add to that your personal tastes and preferences and it might be a good idea to do small quantities of liquid before you decide pouring it together by the bucket...
PG is most common substrate for flavourings, closely followed by ethanol, triacetyl , what have you. Can't spare you reading the extreme fine print on the bottles

Pure VG ( above 99% pure ) is too viscous for vaping ... again... small print on the bottle give you an idea about the concentration...
most stuff on the market is in the neighborhood of 85% VG / 15% water..

And don't be shy about downloading any of the free litle helpers that take care of the math four you. Am sure that fellow vapers have the links. Meself, didn't bother, just cobbled some spreadsheet together...am lazy...

 

[NGAHaze]

Your math is good ... No worries there.

Flavoring is so subjective it's really hard to offer suggestions. That said however, in most cases you should be able to use 20% or less of a given flavor(s) in your mixes. Again, that is highly dependent on the flavor(s) in question and your personal preferences but it's at least a ballpark figure.

Prices vary among Vendors and even the Suppliers themselves so I'm afraid I can't offer much advice in that area. Yes, there are many more PG based flavors available as compared to VG ... I'm no chemist but I suspect this is because PG offers better characteristics as carrier than does VG, as least from a Supplier standpoint.

I don't know this as a fact but I'm guessing that those that list DW as an ingredient have done so as part of the VG component therefore the VG ratio listed includes some percentage of DW added to it. Again, that is largely speculation on my part ...

Good Luck!

 

[Mazinny]

Calculations are good. My recipes range from 0.35% to 35% flavoring.

You wanted a range and that's a range.

There's plenty of reading to do...

/\ the result of large fingers on a tiny phone's keyboard - using Tapatalk

Thank you. I will definitely do the reading. Just wanted a ball park estimation on how much per ml. diy would cost, and if it is worth the effort. Currently the companies i buy my go to juices from ( HHV, Ahlusion, Steam Company, Baker White, Juice Mafia), are between 40 to 60 cents per ml and i am happy with the juices i get. I know there will be wastage involved in diy, and wouldn't wannna foray into it if i am only saving a little.

 

[Mazinny]

Got the math right.

Flavours go anywhere from 0.5% to even 15%. For this you will have to dige here and elsewhere for some house numbers, a each flavour is different. Even the same flavour from different manufacturers can produce completely different results. Add to that your personal tastes and preferences and it might be a good idea to do small quantities of liquid before you decide pouring it together by the bucket...
PG is most common substrate for flavourings, closely followed by ethanol, triacetyl , what have you. Can't spare you reading the extreme fine print on the bottles

Pure VG ( above 99% pure ) is too viscous for vaping ... again... small print on the bottle give you an idea about the concentration...
most stuff on the market is in the neighborhood of 85% VG / 15% water..

And don't be shy about downloading any of the free litle helpers that take care of the math four you. Am sure that fellow vapers have the links. Meself, didn't bother, just cobbled some spreadsheet together...am lazy...

Thanks, i was hoping i would i find good flavors at a decent price and adequate concentration that wouldn't bring down the nic level too much if i add to the mix i calculated above.

And no, i won't be making bucket loads ! I just offered the one flavor example for simplification. But if i have 1750 mg of unflavored juice at 58/42 and 14.3 mg, i can experiment in small batches with different pg based flavors to get the final product closer to 70/30 12, which is my preferred ratio and nic level.

 

[Mazinny]

Your math is good ... No worries there.

Flavoring is so subjective it's really hard to offer suggestions. That said however, in most cases you should be able to use 20% or less of a given flavor(s) in your mixes. Again, that is highly dependent on the flavor(s) in question and your personal preferences but it's at least a ballpark figure.

Prices vary among Vendors and even the Suppliers themselves so I'm afraid I can't offer much advice in that area. Yes, there are many more PG based flavors available as compared to VG ... I'm no chemist but I suspect this is because PG offers better characteristics as carrier than does VG, as least from a Supplier standpoint.

I don't know this as a fact but I'm guessing that those that list DW as an ingredient have done so as part of the VG component therefore the VG ratio listed includes some percentage of DW added to it. Again, that is largely speculation on my part ...

Good Luck!

Thank you. Water as part of vg makes sense. So if i find a company whose extracts taste good at 12.5 %, i would have a final product which is 63/37 pg/vg and 12.5 mg nic which is pretty close to my ideal ratios and i wouldn't have to worry too much about the math. That way i would have seven parts of my unflavored juice and one part flavoring, and keep things simple for the first attempt at diy and don't waste too much money if i am not happy with the results.