is NT gonna win this too?

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Henry Etta

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Thanks Megan! I don't mean to go on about this, but the point I really wanted to make is that we really owe it to each other, and especially to Clark & Co. to only ever show respect and kindness, even (and especially) to the haters. It only hurts our little family here when we don't.
 

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This just seems really childish. NT would win without a mass email to their customers. They probably have the largest joose following on ECF. And thats what all 'polls' on ECF boil down to. Who has the largest following. A tiny fraction of total vapors in this world know about ECF. Thats a poll I'd like to see. How many vapors worldwide have heard of ECF? None of the vapors I talked to in Florida a few months ago have heard of ECF or Nicoticket. None of the people Ive talked to in B&M's have heard of ECF or Nicoticket. The fact that some people on that thread seem to be genuinely upset over this makes me LOL
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Answer: If you mention ECF, even to vendors and retailers, you generally get a deer in the headlights look. I love ECF - it's a great resource for vapers... it is and probably always will be "home" for Nicoticket. I promote ECF as much as I promote Nicoticket, honestly.
 

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Here's my :2c: for what it's worth (really only about 2 cents...)
The folks that run the NETty awards are hardcore tobacco enthusiasts. This is their poll, and they can run it however they want. I don't know enough about the processing to have any educated opinion on whether TA alone should be allowed. They said no, so, fine. NT has made some "true" NET juices, and therefore should be considered a NET vendor.
Now, NT only offers a few NET juices, and therefore is really no match for some other vendors who specialize in NET juices- I'm talking about the folks who can tell where certain tobacco was grown, and discuss at length the different flavor characteristics of various types of tobacco, casings, etc etc. NT is not going to sweep these awards. Have you seen the categories?
I love NT. I love NETs too (they were what really got me through the first few weeks of not smoking cigs, but I don't vape them much anymore), and if I were to vote, NT would not get 1st place in many of the categories. But, NT is a NET vendor, and some folks who are really into NETs might really enjoy NT NETs (and other juices). Seems the point of the poll should be for people to discover new juices/vendors that produce the kind of juice they're into.
BUT, it's disappointing to see folks going over there and throwing a fit about the way they're running the poll. Some people are hating on NT? Who cares? The haters aren't going to make or break NT as a company, and we're just making it worse by trolling.
I just don't know why either "side" is getting their panties all in a bunch over a tiny poll in one very small corner of ECF.
As Rob would say... unicorn and rainbows!

I can actually have an engaging conversation about how we chose the tobacco we chose the NET for The Virus/Radioactive/ACB/Wakonda - or how we chose the subsequent leaves for Atlanta/Switch, or #STRIKE. You're right though - no need to go troll that thread or even continue talking about it really... the people running the NETty's are good people (many are friends) - they should be able to run a straw poll if and do it however they want to do it.
 

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Thanks Megan! I don't mean to go on about this, but the point I really wanted to make is that we really owe it to each other, and especially to Clark & Co. to only ever show respect and kindness, even (and especially) to the haters. It only hurts our little family here when we don't.

True that. And don't forget the real goal - this is about providing an alternative for smokers, not winning awards or swinging our proverbial d*cks around because we are so good at marketing. I am watching the awards because the people who troll that thread as as close to "consumer NET experts" as we have on ECF... I value their opinions! I miss Shatner, just sayin.
 

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This just seems really childish. NT would win without a mass email to their customers. They probably have the largest joose following on ECF. And thats what all 'polls' on ECF boil down to. Who has the largest following. A tiny fraction of total vapors in this world know about ECF. Thats a poll I'd like to see. How many vapors worldwide have heard of ECF? None of the vapors I talked to in Florida a few months ago have heard of ECF or Nicoticket. None of the people Ive talked to in B&M's have heard of ECF or Nicoticket. The fact that some people on that thread seem to be genuinely upset over this makes me LOL
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regardless of how many vapers in the world have heard of ecf, doesn't change the fact that ecf IS the largest vape forum in the world. and when the largest vape forum in the world votes your juice as the best....it's kinda a big deal. the collective opinion of ecf has more weight than the collective opinion of a couple of vape B&Ms, or even a convention. ecf is the largest collection of vapers in the world.
 
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