Is steeping an urban legend?
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That's one thing for sure, as far as Cinnamon is concerned.. I DIY and love making odd mixes adding cinnamon to them (especially tobacco flavors) and it took me awhile to get the right amount to make the taste stay balanced... at first the liquid would be PERFECT then later the cinnamon would over power like nobodies business (and that's just with a few drops added to 10ML)
I am entirely sure about the steeping concept, or 'aged' juice, but I am sure of the difference between a freshly mix juice and that same juice a couple of days later..... any longer I can't formulate an opinion on since I mix per use.
When I make a bottle of French Vanilla, for example, it starts off nearly clear in color. I have a bottle that's over 2 months old and looks like a fresh poured Guinness and the flavor is different. I'm not a "taster" so couldn't break down every nuance for you but it is certainly different. A bit smoother. Almost like adding a little creamer to a coffee. I'll see if I can get a picture up tonight when I get home.
Yeah, I definitely see all my Backwoods juice gets darker from the time it arrives. Especially when I reorder something I've had a couple months and then I have a fresh bottle sitting right next to it. Big difference.
I'm obsessed with testing juice and I've tried at least 20 vendors and well over 200 juices. I am absolutely 100% certain, without a doubt that steeping does occur. Every new juice I get (that's fresh) I will vape it every day and mentally catalog the differences and how much it steeps just to see which ones steep the most.
In my experience creamier desert flavors seem to get creamier and smoother and the flavor seems to "mesh" better. They also taste sweeter to me after a week or so. Fruits tend to get smoother and more tasty (almost like how a fruit ripens). I don't vape tobacco a lot but they seem to taste "cleaner" and tastier when they steep. Some of them have more of a cigarish taste before they steep.
Just my 2 cents
In my experience creamier desert flavors seem to get creamier and smoother and the flavor seems to "mesh" better. They also taste sweeter to me after a week or so. Fruits tend to get smoother and more tasty (almost like how a fruit ripens). I don't vape tobacco a lot but they seem to taste "cleaner" and tastier when they steep. Some of them have more of a cigarish taste before they steep.
Just my 2 cents
I think anyone who's done DIY for any length of time will tell you that steeping will make a difference in the juice. Usually it changes for the better, sometimes not. Some flavors diminish after a lengthy steep, others require it in order for the flavors to come through properly. I mixed up some strawberry with EM a while back. I shook it up and let it sit overnight, it was pretty tasteless. I put it in my stash and pulled it out a week later and it was great, nice medium sweet strawberry. Same thing happened with the English Toffee, a week of steeping and it was really good.
After experimenting with DIY using Flavourarts, Perfumer's Apprentice, etc, I discovered that a few days of aging makes a LOT of difference for the freshly mixed flavor ingredients of a juice. Many initially overpowering elements need an opportunity to blend before the juice is ready. So it would really depend on what you are ordering, and if it's had a chance to age. If its just a re-labeled stock Dekang flavor like an RY4 or 555 just cut into various amounts of nicotine/PG/VG, it probably wont benefit from any aging any longer, having the flavor part of the ingredients mixed weeks or months prior, but if its a mixed-per-order delicious specialty juice from a small supplier, the flavor mix may only be few days old by the time you get it and will likely benefit from sitting a while.
I have a bunch of juices from a well known vendor that were absolutely, totally unvapable when I received them.
They were harsh so harsh it gave my nose a tingly, bubbly sensation and it gave me a bad sore throat nose that night and next day plus OMG they had no taste whatsoever!
It has now been a couple months and though I still don't like the taste
they are at the minimum vapable.
So myth busted in my favor! rofl!
C.B.
They were harsh so harsh it gave my nose a tingly, bubbly sensation and it gave me a bad sore throat nose that night and next day plus OMG they had no taste whatsoever!
It has now been a couple months and though I still don't like the taste
they are at the minimum vapable.
So myth busted in my favor! rofl!
C.B.
For pre-made juices, I have not had a SINGLE one that got better over time. Not a single one. I have had one that got noticably WORSE but that was because it didn't seem to be satisfing my nic craving despite being a decent jump in nicotine level. I'm not 100% sure the aging was at fault, but a fresher juice at a lower nic took the edge off.
For DIY, steeping is a MUST. It doesn't need to be the "let it steep for a week or two" that I've seen on these forums. From the second you cap your DIY juice, let it sit until the liquids are evenly mixed (you can see some "shimmering" in it if it's not mixed properly). For most flavorings, there will be a slight color change too when it's ready. Once it hits that mark (overnight usually, sometimes up to a day) it's good to go. This time frame is handled in the shipping from pre-made vendors, hence the difference.
For DIY, steeping is a MUST. It doesn't need to be the "let it steep for a week or two" that I've seen on these forums. From the second you cap your DIY juice, let it sit until the liquids are evenly mixed (you can see some "shimmering" in it if it's not mixed properly). For most flavorings, there will be a slight color change too when it's ready. Once it hits that mark (overnight usually, sometimes up to a day) it's good to go. This time frame is handled in the shipping from pre-made vendors, hence the difference.
This depends on who you buy from and what you buy.
China juices that have been sitting on a vendor's shelf for three months will obviously not need to steep at all where a freshly made to your order juice probably will.
Of course, those are extremes.
China juices that have been sitting on a vendor's shelf for three months will obviously not need to steep at all where a freshly made to your order juice probably will.
Of course, those are extremes.
I concur with the others who stated that creamier desert type juices may need time to steep. When i first received my bottle of TastyVapor's raspberry cheesecake, I couldn't taste the cheesecake at all. I put it away for 10 days and then tried it. Wow, what a difference! Even 15 minutes after vaping it, I could still smell (and taste?) the cheesecake every time I inhaled through my nose.
I suppose the possibility exists that my experience could be attributed to the power of suggestion as TV and its fans recommend steeping cheesecake juices but I really doubt it as nobody mentioned that I would get the incredible cheesecake flavor through my nose as opposed to the taste buds in my mouth. That was quite a shocker and, now that I'm used to it, quite a pleasant experience.
I suppose the possibility exists that my experience could be attributed to the power of suggestion as TV and its fans recommend steeping cheesecake juices but I really doubt it as nobody mentioned that I would get the incredible cheesecake flavor through my nose as opposed to the taste buds in my mouth. That was quite a shocker and, now that I'm used to it, quite a pleasant experience.
While this may be true - none of the juice I'm familiar with is cooked or brewed.
TC
YES it absolutely makes a difference. 
mainly with DIY...I experience significant changes on a weekly basis...mainly in flavor intensity and body...TH always increases as well, some more than others.....Havent kept any juices long enough to tell you what happens after 2mos though 
mainly with DIY...I experience significant changes on a weekly basis...mainly in flavor intensity and body...TH always increases as well, some more than others.....Havent kept any juices long enough to tell you what happens after 2mos though 
I think it does make a big difference. Just got some new juices from FSUSA, all mixed extra strength and delivered to me within two days. I then mixed up some apricot/peach/menthol cut 1/3 with unflavored juice to bring the flavor levels down. Right after mixing I filled my eGo-T tank and started vaping on it. It wasn't very good, not at all like what I expected. Almost had a medicinal taste sort of like cough syrup but not exactly... a few days later I filled up again and it's much improved! I can actually taste the peach and menthol now and it's smoothed out a lot. This actually makes me want to get some of my other concentrates mixed down how I want them now so they're well mixed/steeped by the time I'm ready to use them.
As others have said, if a supplier pre-mixes standard flavors, they may be fully mixed weeks before you even order them. Some other places like GV, FSUSA, and Bombay mix to order and ship it right out meaning the concentrated flavoring has only been mixed in your liquid for a few days at the most.
As others have said, if a supplier pre-mixes standard flavors, they may be fully mixed weeks before you even order them. Some other places like GV, FSUSA, and Bombay mix to order and ship it right out meaning the concentrated flavoring has only been mixed in your liquid for a few days at the most.
Without looking through this entire thread, I can offer this: I bought some juice made by a supplier that came highly recommended. I ordered 555 and another "nutty" flavor. It arrived and both tasted cotton candy-ish. I was told I need to let it steep for a week or two. Fine. I let it steep for two weeks. Then I ordered from my normal vendor. While I vaped the normal juice, the steeping juice sat and steeped some more. Its been steeping for... ohhh, I dont know... 4 months now? Guess what... still tastes like cotton candy. IMO... Urban legend.
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Steeping is not a myth, it's the along the same lines as letting wine/cheese age. Letting the flavors and ingredients bind together over time significantly increases flavor when it comes to e-juice. If you don't think so your taste buds are broken.
Any juice I have ever liked was right out of the bottle either purchased and especially DIY'd. Nw does letting it sit for maybe a week to the moon help mend everything together, sure, more like a couple days though for me. I personally believe in my opinion it is all a juice vending scam to get people to by more juice, think about it if they make you think that juice is gonna be way better 3 months down the road you would have to have at least 6 months worth on hand all the time. I have been at this for some time now and much much prefer fresh Nic and juice flavoring any day of the week. Also when you see all these Nic sales of vendors selling stuff for way less than they even paid for it, it's old Nic over 90 days old or old juice in my opinion as well. Again, just my opinion, and I will stick with Fresh for me.!
I have many DIY flavors that I make that I do not even like until after they have steeped for a few weeks. It is food flavoring and just like with tea and many different food items steeping intensifies flavor dramatically.
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