Is steeping an urban legend?
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JonnyVapΣ;2347105 said:
How big of a can? I'll trade a 30ml bottle of Dekang RY4 I bought like 6 months ago. I doubt you could tell the difference between it and the gasoline unless you poured it into your gas tank.
Almost a full gallon. Extra bonus; there's some pre-mix thrown in there, too.
I think my snow blower would run just as crappy on either.
I think my snow blower would run just as crappy on either.
I've hated a few juices right out of the mailbox. Learned my lesson after I gave a yucky bottle to my sister and about a month later I got a very pleasant whiff of what she was vaping; asked her what she was dripping, it was the reject that I'd given her. I drizzled a few drops into my atty and regretted not believing the 'give it time to season' rule.
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I'll start the bidding at $12.47 and if that pre-mix has steeped for at least 8 years I'll go another $87.32 for the batch! LOL
On a serious note. One way to put this steeping thing to rest once and for all would be for someone that goes to one of those Vape meet things that folks organize here on ECF to perform a blind taste test. They could order some BWB Applewood or Casablanca for this blind taste test. The person that orders it would be the only person that knows which ones are which. Order one or both of the juices as follows before the meet.
A sample 3 weeks prior. (total age 4 weeks due to shipping time)
Another sample 1 week prior (total age 2 weeks due to shipping time)
Another to have it arrive within a day of the meet. (total age 1 week due to shipping time)
Then perform a blind taste test with everyone there at the meet with ONE PV and identical atty's for all test. You would need to ask everyone to write their comments down and not talk out loud about their findings until everyone is finished. Thoroughly document the findings to report back here on ECF. I mean how fun and informative would THAT be!
Folks need to remember that the Poll is asking if they believe that SOME ejuice improves with age and I agree that not all juice needs time. But... I'm sitting here right now vapping away at some Applewood that I managed to not suck down in a week and this stuff is now 4 weeks old (BOD was 11/23/2010) and this stuff is off the friggin hook!! num num num.
yeah, I don't know what it is about Don's juice. Some of them need 3 weeks. Open the mail, uncap and sample vape it, recap it and back in the cupboard. Test weekly. Some magic occurs in some of them around the 3 week point. I get the same thing with Halo. Bella Valente and Torque 56 need two weeks.
Besides those two examples, no other juice I've ever bought has changed with the passing of time.
Besides those two examples, no other juice I've ever bought has changed with the passing of time.
I still hold to my theory that if after months there is that much of a change in flavor, the perceived improvement is actually the flavoring degenerating out of it. I think to do a truly accurate trial, you'd need a vendor or a really good juice mixologist to mix up several batches of a "steeping mandatory" juice. Make a batch at 1/2 strength and full strength and put it away for a month or two, and then another set of 1/2 strength and full strength and let it sit for two days. Then do the blind trials. It would be interesting to see if the 1/2 strength fresh had a similar flavor to the aged full strength.
A lot I think, has a bit to do with the flavors involved...... and I've noticed each company is different. For instance I find TW perfect right out of the mailbox, yet my VR was god awful at first, after two weeks, its delicious! Myth? Perhaps...... but I'll stick to steeping orders from VR.
Most of these posts agree that days, weeks and sometimes a month makes a difference but what do you guys think about the vendor that plans on selling "Gold Label" and "Platinum Label" juice that has "steeped for 6 and 9 months... and for more money?
If you feel a juice needs to be steeped try shaking it well and putting it in a smaller bottle, like a 3mL or a carto and let it sit a day or so. That will have the same result as letting a 30mL bottle sit for a month or so.
If you feel a juice needs to be steeped try shaking it well and putting it in a smaller bottle, like a 3mL or a carto and let it sit a day or so. That will have the same result as letting a 30mL bottle sit for a month or so.
I don't think letting artificially flavored juice sit more than a few days will make any difference, so you can make your own conclusions about what I think about certain vendors offering pre-aged juice.
The one common characteristic shared by all the juices that need to age 2-3 weeks is that every single one of them has a natural tobacco extract base.
The one common characteristic shared by all the juices that need to age 2-3 weeks is that every single one of them has a natural tobacco extract base.
I don't think it's a myth.
Wyatt Earp is one that I let steep. The longer it steeps, the more mellow and tastier it gets. Just out of the mail testing, it's vapable but has a licorice taste. That taste fades after time. Dekang needs 24 hours uncapped in my opinion. Tastes like gasoline smells when I first tried it. Now I love it especially mixed with some of my stronger flavors. Seems to tone some juices down. Taste is subjective, we all know this. Newbies try everything right out of the mail only to be disappointed much like I was when I first started. Cinna-bomb and atomic cinnacide get stronger and hotter with age. I love giving samples of these to friends who just started vaping. Cracks me up to see their faces turn red! I love these after they're aged a bit. For the most part, I age everything for at least a couple of weeks after first trying them. Oh, Mister-E-Liquid's cognac fire gets better with age also. Damn good stuff!
Bottom line, only your taste buds will tell you to let it age or not.
Wyatt Earp is one that I let steep. The longer it steeps, the more mellow and tastier it gets. Just out of the mail testing, it's vapable but has a licorice taste. That taste fades after time. Dekang needs 24 hours uncapped in my opinion. Tastes like gasoline smells when I first tried it. Now I love it especially mixed with some of my stronger flavors. Seems to tone some juices down. Taste is subjective, we all know this. Newbies try everything right out of the mail only to be disappointed much like I was when I first started. Cinna-bomb and atomic cinnacide get stronger and hotter with age. I love giving samples of these to friends who just started vaping. Cracks me up to see their faces turn red! I love these after they're aged a bit. For the most part, I age everything for at least a couple of weeks after first trying them. Oh, Mister-E-Liquid's cognac fire gets better with age also. Damn good stuff!
Bottom line, only your taste buds will tell you to let it age or not.
I believe in steeping and have tested and compared many times. Some flavors do change, some dont. I'm not sure, but it seems like the more complex, dark, or deserty (creamy) a juice is, the more it will change. I do agree with your assertion of how our taste buds work. I remember when I smoked that whenever I had a Subway cold cut trio, the cig after was bitter and nasty. EVERY TIME. However, whenever I have mexican food, it is amazing. EVERY TIME. I believe there is a temporary to permanent change in taste buds that is caused by what you consume. Have you ever noticed how vaping or smoking cigs is not very tasty when your really hungry? For me, vaping doesn't taste good when I haven't ate in awhile. Whenever I test new flavors I clear my pallete with a cracker and make sure I haven't had anything acidic lately.
...I disagree. I've noticed a quite a big change in a 30 ml of Ry4 after a few weeks. It's one of the only times I've seen a juice mature past a week or two. For the most part I do agree that this seems kind of scandalous, but how can you hate a company who is giving the consumer what they're asking for? If a bunch of people requested poop flavored e juice that tasted like $h**, would you refuse selling it to them because you don't believe they should want that?
Not entirely true, in my opinion. I don't vape tobacco flavors, and I've noticed quite a few of the "mixed to order" juices that improve drastically after I get them and let them sit for a while, from various vendors. Atomic Cinnacide (called Atomic Fireball when I got it) is just one such example.
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