Is sub ohm really necessary??

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stylezuk

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Necessity no, choice yes Atomic 0.6ohm 6mg 80vg the taste warmth is amazing that'll also be down to how small the chamber is and vapour production is crazy, the Trident v2 1ohm use for more cake/sweet based eliquid higher PG as nice throat hit what works in one isn't always the same on another, the AGI dripping at 2ohm still fulfills both criteria, so really it's west ever floats your boat along with getting the most out of dripper/tank only tank use if KFL+ at 1.4ohm.
 

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I stacked two 18350s with a 5 ohm carto in a bolt when I got serious.. It had what I needed to kick smokes. Now Im running .9 ohm on a single 18650 in a rba.

I'm always switching up coil types and can't seem to find a favorite.

Subohm is more for the hobbyist I think and its enjoyable if you are proactive in your safety practices.

I think it's bad when the staff of b&m sends folks out the door with a k100 and drilled out trident wrapped to .25 ohms with an ultrafire battery for the sake of sales using a ploy of cloud chasing as a gimmick.

Folks starting out should stick to the ego twist and protank varieties.. Perhaps someone should assemble a basic safety sheet that can be handed out at the b&m that gives a synopsis of different vape techniques and stages.... Back to work I go...
 

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beazy:11897663 said:
I stacked two 18350s with a 5 ohm carto in a bolt when I got serious.. It had what I needed to kick smokes. Now Im running .9 ohm on a single 18650 in a rba.

I'm always switching up coil types and can't seem to find a favorite.

Subohm is more for the hobbyist I think and its enjoyable if you are proactive in your safety practices.

I think it's bad when the staff of b&m sends folks out the door with a k100 and drilled out trident wrapped to .25 ohms with an ultrafire battery for the sake of sales using a ploy of cloud chasing as a gimmick.

Folks starting out should stick to the ego twist and protank varieties.. Perhaps someone should assemble a basic safety sheet that can be handed out at the b&m that gives a synopsis of different vape techniques and stages.... Back to work I go...

Batteries very important VTC4 or INR 20 18650 when sub ohm, standard builds AW 1600 / 1100 or stealth on Efset 18350. Ohms law very important always check A draw.
 

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I love these kinds of threads, but there is something I still don't understand, and it seems to be taken for granted in these conversations.

Most juices I have tried taste burnt over about 10 watts, although some are pretty decent at 15 watts. So why doesn't juice delivered at say 50 watts taste crazy burnt? Any answers appreciated, and not to hijack this thread.

My Sweet Spot is a Reomizer 2 with a FC-2000 Porous ceramic Wick, 4 wraps of 24 Gauge Wire for a.37 Ohms. My Bottom feeder has a fairly large V-drop and with a Panasonic NCR18650pd 2900mah battery seems to be in around the 3.2V to 3.4V range.

It's all about your Atomizer setup.
The RBA offers much greater surface area and aeration. Some wicks will actually absorb some heat too.

I use a Reomizer 2 RBA which has a lot of space and good aeration [Drilled the Airhole Larger]. The wick I use is a Fc-2000 Porous Ceramic Wick. It absorbs heat another factor is that Lower Gauge Wire is thicker and heats up slower which is why it doesn't burn the liquid.

Your standard clearomizer or cartomizer has high gauge wire enclosed in a small space with very little diamater or circumfrence. So it gets hot in that tight space.
 

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I've been sub-ohmming my REO Grands since I've had them, one at 0.5Ω, another at 0.8Ω. I enjoy it.

Sub-ohmming is definitely here to stay and will soon be a little safer with the DNA 30. It's rated for a minimum of 0.5Ω and the Hana Modz that use it spec a minimum 0.3Ω coil (does that mean the mod is 0.2Ω? or that they're pushing the rating?).
 
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Just to add sub ohm I like as it's also I'm a big kid like yesterday waiting at the traffic lights seen yellow come up filled my lungs exhaled on red and a split moment in time happened no one knew what to do! Yeah not very adult of me but couldn't help myself while getting my coffee it was "do you have a barbecue there?" The missus gets annoyed at home as wait for kid to go bed and the toys come out normally she moans about not being able to see the TV, so there's a time and place. It's all about fun, I'm a android phone modifier so when found rebuildables it's the same how much can push it!
 

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Steamer861:11897854 said:
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i haven't tried sub ohm yet still waiting for my mod and rba to come in the mail
In this video RiP Trippers says with a kick2 in a mod it is better than sub ohm :)
I will form my own opinion after i try it Kick 2 By Evolv - YouTube

I do sometimes use the kick 2 but normally on juices that need x W and yeah its awesome as get the same vape W all way down to 3.6v depends on ohm load can push 0.5ohm but max 15w if I use without on 0.6 I get about 29W and that's where the kick 2 fails for me but it has its place especially for mods with high V drop.
 

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I agree with most - sub ohming is NOT necessary nor is it for everyone just like bungy jumping is not for everyone. Sure it might be fun to try but the vast majority are just as happy with their normal 1.5 - 2.8 ohm coils (most vapors fall into the 6-12 watt range for their sweet spot for flavor anyway).

As far as I am concerned blowing HUGE clouds of vapor should be restricted to the privacy of your own house (or for you exhibitionists, to vape meets in a corner with other consenting adult vapors) NOT in public venues where you could drive more people to the antivaping groups.

I get excellent flavor and an adequate amount of vapor from my kayfun and am still able to "stealth vape" it if necessary

just my 2 cents
 
I went from protanks at 2.5/1.8 ohms then dove into the subohm world. Right now I'm rocking a JM mech and a Patriot atty on top at .3 ohms. With a Sony 18650 30 amp VTC4. Personally I was never really an avid cigarette smoker, but more of a hookah smoker that absolutely LOVED clouds. Some people love the thick clouds and some don't. It all goes down to personal preference.
 

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It's all up to the individual and a few other factors.
1. Type of juice
Some juice taste like crap if you get it too hot
2. Coil setup
Dual, tri, quad. More coils drastically reduces resistance
3. Determining what makes you happy.
If you have a rba or rda then go nuts try all kinds of builds and see what you like. Once you have the equipment any build is relatively cheap.

My personal favorites are on my aqua's, dual .8 ohms (brings me down around .4) however some of my juice don't like that so that's were the Ithaka comes in 1.5 duals but overall that still gets me down to .75 ohms


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To each their own...

Why vape with unregulated than a regulated device? vice versa
Why does someone vape with a twist than a provari? vice versa
Why use a kanger with a 2.8 than a 2.2 coil? vice versa
Why use low res cartomizers than standard cartomizers? vice versa
Why use single coil, dual, or quad, or even octo coil?
Why use kanthal, flat ribbon, or twisted wire?
Why use silica, eko, or cotton?

IT's ALL PREFERENCE - to each their own - you may be satisfied with what you're using, but other's maybe satisfied with something more or less. As long as they practice safety measures, then they should be okay.

The statement of sub-ohming is not necessary, shouldn't even exist unless your feeble mind is jealous or envious of someone who attained a perfect sub-ohm build that's better than what you're using. Cut them some slack and your own, and vape happily.
 
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