Is the E-Cig gettting stomped by "big tobbacco"
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I think that the cigarette industry does not like ecigs but there probably isn't much they can do to "stomp" it. They may push for legislation to have ecigs taxed and regulated like tobacco products and they may even succeed in some states/provinces/countries, which sucks. But ecigs are an entrepreneurial industry and can't really be shut down. And the cigarette industry is an oligopoly.
I do think that the objection by health ministries and the WHO to ecigs is mostly due to inertia.
I do think that the objection by health ministries and the WHO to ecigs is mostly due to inertia.
95% of the operating funds for the anti-smoking groups, such as ASH, comes from the large pharmaceutical companies. One of our members who has been involved in the anti-smoking movement for years, explained that the larger pharmaceutical companies put the word out to these groups that if they didn't come out strong against vaping, their funding would be in jeopardy. Plus, some of the more radical groups, such as ASH, has pointidly stated that if it looks anything like smoking, they will fight against it, period. ASH was the group that got Paypal not to allow any business associated with vaping to use their site for the processing of payments.
We do, the judges, appointed by the previous President, who told the FDA to back-off and not catergorize PV's as drug devices.
Yes, it is. We all need to join and SUPPORT "CASAA" if we want to protect our right to vape.
I dunno. Big Pharm might be the bigger problem, but I'm not so sure Big Tobacco isn't somehow involved. And a nanny government on top of that really doesn't help. In Canada's case, a bureaucratic, lazy and possibly corrupt Health Canada isn't really helping.
There is no evidence that big tobacco cares about vaping. There is an abundance of evidence that big pharm is very anti-vaping.
Here is what I want to say to Big Pharm...Your patches, your lozengers and gum did not help me. I used it but still craved cigarettes just the same. They made me sick to my stomach and I had nightmares while using it. I quit with the e-cig. So, leave us the hell alone!
Quite possibly. But I don't feel a need to posit a conspiracy unless there is some evidence or at least a clear incentive combined with capability (the means-motive-opportunity thing) and a hypothetical MO.
It could very well be that the pharma lobby is targeting ecigs to bury the industry. But I don't know that and would have to look into it to have a firm opinion either way about it. I think it best to be at least as skeptical of conspiracy theories as I am of the conventional wisdom. For anything.
That is exactly what I have done. The facts are clear that Big Pharm is 100% against vaping. Check out CASAA or Smoke Free Pennsylvania. As I stated previously, there are people that have been in the anti-smoking groups for years that has confirmed Big Pharms' direct action to have vaping banned. He has seen the letters to both the FDA and to the ALA and AHA.
Yeah, I didn't believe in conspiracy theories either before I started using electronic cigarettes.
Now that I've learned what is really going on out there my view of the world has changed quite a bit.
I liked it a lot better when I didn't know any better.
Following the money leads straight from Big Pharma to all of the "health" and "anti-smoking" organizations.
This is well-documented and quite easy to learn about with a bit of research.
The following link is a very nice summary of what you'll find out...
The New Corporate America Business Model
And the "health" and "anti-smoking" organizations work from the same playbook...
SMOKEFREE OUTDOOR PUBLIC SPACES: A COMMUNITY ADVOCACY TOOLKIT
Tobacco Control Strategy Planning - Other Resources
They call it advocacy but I call it conspiracy.
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Its easy to blame "the man" for all the worlds woes, "the man" tends not to care how we kill ourselves and rather than fight e-cigarettes is more likely to embrace them as another consumer item to sell to the sheep, few regulations and taxes, plenty of potential for exploitation, Im surprised "the man" isnt being blamed for pushing them.
Well, here in Canada, "the man" has definitely not embraced e-cigarettes. Not even as another source of sin tax revenues.
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