FDA Is the FDA open minded about e-cigarettes?

[toddkuen]

An interesting tidbit from another federal agency - the CDC. Among others, they're soliciting people who used e-cigarettes or smokeless tobacco (to cut back on cigarette smoking) who later developed a serious health problem for television ads (as part of a national education campaign). They're paying $2,500 plus travel expenses.

CDC Solicits E-Cig Users With Health Problems For TV Ads. | Ecig Advanced News

Since no one else will say this I will:

Anyone needing $2,500 that is staunchly loyal to vaping needs to sign up, pretend to be harmed by vaping, at least up until the point were you have to sign a waver, and collect as much data on cell phones - audio, visual - as they can.



Then, after the ads come out, get onto Youtube and ECF and claim you did it for the money.



One of the lawyers that are around here needs to look into this.

 

[Fitzie]

Interesting idea. I thought about tons of vapers calling Mimi Webb Miller Casting, offering instead to attest to the health benefits of switching to vaping. If nothing else, it might overwhelm their phone lines.

You gotta look at the fine print though - "Willing to submit to a background check."

 

[zoiDman]

Interesting idea. I thought about tons of vapers calling Mimi Webb Miller Casting, offering instead to attest to the health benefits of switching to vaping. If nothing else, it might overwhelm their phone lines.

You gotta look at the fine print though - "Willing to submit to a background check."

I'm sure Everything is on the Up and Up with this PAID TV Ad.

I mean, they are Using a Very Highly Respected and Completely Reputable Recruiting Method. Craigslist.

PAID TV Commercial Looking for EX-SMOKERS

 

[Stosh]

I'm sure Everything is on the Up and Up with this PAID TV Ad.

I mean, they are Using a Very Highly Respected and Completely Reputable Recruiting Method. Craigslist.

PAID TV Commercial Looking for EX-SMOKERS

But, but, at least they're inclusive....

"We are particularly encouraging qualified ENGLISH SPEAKERS OF ASIAN DESCENT to consider applying to be a part of the ad campaign."

(bolding mine)

 

[AndriaD]

Interesting idea. I thought about tons of vapers calling Mimi Webb Miller Casting, offering instead to attest to the health benefits of switching to vaping. If nothing else, it might overwhelm their phone lines.

ROFL!!! A telephone DoS!

Andria

 

[zoiDman]

Since no one else will say this I will:

Anyone needing $2,500 that is staunchly loyal to vaping needs to sign up, pretend to be harmed by vaping, at least up until the point were you have to sign a waver, and collect as much data on cell phones - audio, visual - as they can.



Then, after the ads come out, get onto Youtube and ECF and claim you did it for the money.



One of the lawyers that are around here needs to look into this.

Interesting idea. I thought about tons of vapers calling Mimi Webb Miller Casting, offering instead to attest to the health benefits of switching to vaping. If nothing else, it might overwhelm their phone lines.

You gotta look at the fine print though - "Willing to submit to a background check."

ROFL!!! A telephone DoS!

Andria

Make it So. Tons of Vapers flooding in can Start with 3 Calls/e-Mails.

The Time for Talking and Long Debates on the ECF has Passed. This should be the Time of Actions.

 

[toddkuen]

All depends on your definition of "harm" ...

It harmed my ability to cough up horrible tobacco laced chunks.

It harmed my ability to wheeze and cough.

It harmed my ability to lose my breath.

Were they "specific" about the kinds of harm?

 

[toddkuen]

By the way, if you follow the links the CDC is claiming that they caused 200,000 thousand smokers to quit in 2012.

More than likely vaping did that I would think.

 

[Belushi]

Bob Chill's post hit it on the nail for me, it is exactly what I am feeling. Some what of a powerlessness feeling at this point. You know they have made up their mind up. Look at all the "studies" that are coming out putting a bad light on vaping. They are even calling us mentally ill now (ex. time article). Is all that a coincidence, I really do not think it is, seems more like a planned attack to me. I suppose all the ANTZ groups may have timed their propaganda with the FDA deeming regulations. Just seems they are doing it better than the vaping community. Starting to think we have done been out flanked. I'll still submit my comments with CASAA's direction, but deep down thinking it is too little, too late. Eventually we will be regulated in a bad way, may take a few years, but......

 

[Robmidi]

Time to take our country back, folks!
I'm sick of being lied to by a TOTALLY inept and crooked government who cares only about the perpetuity of their power and control.
Oh, and of course, more tax money to squander.
Time to give them all a boot and start over.

 

[Kent C]

Time to take our country back, folks!
I'm sick of being lied to by a TOTALLY inept and crooked government who cares only about the perpetuity of their power and control.
Oh, and of course, more tax money to squander.
Time to give them all a boot and start over.

 

[EleanorR]

Oh Anne . . . I can almost forgive your Romney and Christie-loving ways!

 

[zoiDman]

Time to take our country back, folks!
I'm sick of being lied to by a TOTALLY inept and crooked government who cares only about the perpetuity of their power and control.
Oh, and of course, more tax money to squander.
Time to give them all a boot and start over.

So How do we go about Doing It?

 

[Kent C]

Oh Anne . . . I can almost forgive your Romney and Christie-loving ways!

Not me, but it was still funny. lol. ... and appropriate for Robmidi's comments

 

[Nate760]

Oh Anne . . . I can almost forgive your Romney and Christie-loving ways!

I look at Ann Coulter, and all I see is Hugh Laurie. Guess I need to focus more on the hair or something.


Edit: seriously, give this dude a clean shave and a blonde wig and tell me the resemblance isn't uncanny-bordering-on-creepy.

 

[Kent C]

re: Coulter, I always see 'Rachel' from Revolution (Elizabeth Mitchell also in Lost)

Except without the fake 'caring' eyes and eyebrows that Anne is displaying because of the 'earlier #'

 

[Bob Chill]

So How do we go about Doing It?

There's really only one realistic way and it probably won't happen before I'm dead. We need to elect a less extreme version of Gary Johnson and let the chips fall. It would come with consequences but once the dust settled our Country would be in a much better place. "We" are not in a position to take anything back right now and won't be as long as the status quo continues. Heck, we can't even keep the stuff we want let alone take anything back.

 

[zoiDman]

I would like to see Term Limits and Campaign Finance Reforms.

But Finance Reform don't seem Realist in light of what has gone on Lately in the Supreme Court.

And Many are for Term Limits until it looks like they Might be Getting Close to the Votes Needed, then they Fade to Black and you don't hear anything again for another Decade.

But I guess most of this is Off Topic. So I'll leave it at that.

 

[DC2]

Bob Chill's post hit it on the nail for me, it is exactly what I am feeling. Some what of a powerlessness feeling at this point. You know they have made up their mind up. Look at all the "studies" that are coming out putting a bad light on vaping. They are even calling us mentally ill now (ex. time article). Is all that a coincidence, I really do not think it is, seems more like a planned attack to me. I suppose all the ANTZ groups may have timed their propaganda with the FDA deeming regulations. Just seems they are doing it better than the vaping community. Starting to think we have done been out flanked. I'll still submit my comments with CASAA's direction, but deep down thinking it is too little, too late. Eventually we will be regulated in a bad way, may take a few years, but......

It is most definitely a coordinated attack.
That's what they do.

But we are not powerless and we are not without hope.

Join CASAA here...
Become a CASAA Member

And do whatever you can.

If each of us does whatever we can, that's a heck of a lot better than doing nothing.

 

[Dave_in_OK]

If each of us does whatever we can, that's a heck of a lot better than doing nothing.

And the only hope we have to keep vaping as we know it around.