I've seen these terms bandied about and my first inclination was to think that they were simply interchangeable terms for the same item. However, upon other reading it sounds like they are two different things, although I've never seen a cartomizer listed on any vendor site. Of course, I wasn't looking for one though. I thought I knew all the pieces to make an e-cig, but maybe this is an extra that does something different than the basics?
Is there a difference between a cartridge and a cartomizer?
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A cart is what you use with an atomizer. A cartomizer is a cart with the atomizer built into it. Cartomizers last much longer than using a cart/atty but some people say the flavor is better using a cart/atty. Having to refill or drip every 10 minutes as opposed to screwing on a new cartomizer every 3-4 hours made me choose cartomizers. I also didn't think the flavor or TH was any better (a bit worse actually) when dripping or using a cart.
occasionally you will see them used interchangeably, more commonly from the manufacturer than the suppliers, but more often than not they are almost always used to denote two different setups. think of a cartomizer as a cartridge and atomizer all in one, either pre-filled or requiring you to add juice, whereas the cartridge is generally just the mouthpiece and filler material, either pre-filled or requiring you to add juice as well as a stand alone atomizer. genrally cartomizers are thrw away items, lasting upwards of a week or more, and sometimes less, sometimes more. atomizers, on the other hand, while more costly, are at least intended to last much longer with normal use.
Oh! Interesting. So do you have to buy pre-filled cartomizers or are those refillable too? And are you a heavy vaper? It seems to me that if an average 501 type cart is equivalent to about 5 regular cigs, one would have to do an awful lot of puffing to go through a whole cartridge every 10 minutes. And since you can have multiple cartridges available, isn't popping on a new cart just as easy or is it the atty priming that's a pain? Or does one even need to drip on the atty just for a cartridge change? Also, I expect the cartos would be more expensive. Are they?
LOL. You were kind enough to answer and I just threw a whole slew of new questions at you. Sorry.
Ah, well that answered most of my questions. A more expensive route it seems, but a carto might be a handy thing for long distance driving. Is it huge? Sounds like it must be to hold enough e-juice for a week.
I have a cart/atty combo, but I ordered e2 cartos and BOGE cartos. I can't wait to try them!
I find cartos to be a lot less cost wise than atomizers. I buy a 5 pack of cartos for 8 dollars and usually get about 2 weeks use out of one before i notice enough performance loss to change.
As opposed to atomizers that quit working quite often at 8 dollars each.
I find carto's give me more vapor and throat hit as well. With cartridges/atomizer combos i was having to try lipton tea bag mods and what have you to try and get them to hold more than a few drops of liquid. With my cartomizers on my first fill i get 20ish drops in and 6-10 when i refill.
This is just my opinion though, Just a heads up not to dismiss Cartomizers off hand. they may be just the ticket for you.
As opposed to atomizers that quit working quite often at 8 dollars each.
I find carto's give me more vapor and throat hit as well. With cartridges/atomizer combos i was having to try lipton tea bag mods and what have you to try and get them to hold more than a few drops of liquid. With my cartomizers on my first fill i get 20ish drops in and 6-10 when i refill.
This is just my opinion though, Just a heads up not to dismiss Cartomizers off hand. they may be just the ticket for you.
You know, sometimes I feel like Alice going down the rabbit's hole.
I never know what to expect next. Believe me, I'm not dismissing the idea. However, I've yet to even place my first order, although I've made up my mind on what that will be. I'm just trying to find out more and more stuff as I run into new terminology, etc.The thing that gets me is there are so many vendors and apparently types of variances on a theme outside of the basic: cartridge+atty+battery=e-cig that I don't know how one knows whether something like one vendor's carto will screw on to another's battery...there seems to be a BIG compatibility issue.
One of the reasons I chose Modern Vapor for my first basics order (outside of their great starter kits and PCC's) was that it seemed they had some basics that run across various vendors, i.e. 501's/902's.
But how do you know beforehand whether it will work with stuff you already have unless you do a ton of legwork...or, er, this being the internet...fingerwork or phone calls? Or does that just go with this territory?
This will also make sense when you hear about 2-piece and 3-piece e-cigarettes. A 2-piece is a battery and a cartomizer. A 3-piece is a battery, an atomizer and a cartridge. Many models of e-cig (aka PV) can be either because they have a choice of cartomizer or atomizer and cartridge. This is especially true of popular and larger models. The abbreviation here for cartridge is cart and cartomizer is carto.
More expensive route is debatable and different people will have different views. A 5 pack of cartomizers cost about the same as an atomizer. An atomizer can last 5 times as long as the lifespan of 5 cartos but sometimes does and sometimes doesn't. I've have several attys that have lasted since the beginning of Aug and 2 died with a few days of use.
I'd say cost wise on average it evens out in the end and comes down to preference.
Okay, given the parameters I mentioned above which seem pretty basic, i.e. either 501's or 902's, what places would you suggest to look at cartos so that I might check these out for potential future purchase? I don't think I saw them at all on Modern Vapor's site.
I know exactly what you are going through Sharon, When i got my first e-cig (dse-901) i was a bit concerned about what screw onto what and where It takes a bit of learning the different models and accesories. But you will find one that fits your lifestyle I am sure. What little I do know i learned right here on this forum so you are in good hands.
Oh and i suggest using a vendor that is well known on this board. Many are online to talk to live as you place your order to help.
It takes a bit of learning the different models and accesories. But you will find one that fits your lifestyle I am sure. What little I do know i learned right here on this forum so you are in good hands.Oh and i suggest using a vendor that is well known on this board. Many are online to talk to live as you place your order to help.
The compatibility issue, which really isn't an issue once you get the feel of it is the threads on the batteries. 510 thread being one of the most popular. PVs like the Riva, Reg 510, Ego and Hello use 510 as with many others so the 510 parts are interchangeable within the 510 threaded models.
Once you get your pv the parts you buy will be noted as to which thread the are compatible with so it's really not a big deal and if you want to branch out and try something that isn't designated for your type treads you can get adapters to covert the treads to another model for cheap.
Once you get your pv the parts you buy will be noted as to which thread the are compatible with so it's really not a big deal and if you want to branch out and try something that isn't designated for your type treads you can get adapters to covert the treads to another model for cheap.
Below is a link from Modernvapor for blank cartomizers. Get a 5 pack of them on your initial order and see what you think. Then you can compare for yourself.
Vapor Electronic Cigarette - Smokeless Cigarettes - Ecigs-E-Liquid (E-Juice)
Vapor Electronic Cigarette - Smokeless Cigarettes - Ecigs-E-Liquid (E-Juice)
OMG!!! I never noticed that! Well, many, many thanks to you, Nomoreash! I shall check that out now.
Okay, I'm definitely going to throw in a package of those on my first order as someone else on this forum mentioned that the Sidesho's (except for the atty) is compatible with the 902's. So I could bounce back and forth without having to order another battery specifically for the 902's. Cool. That also gives me the option of using the longer e-cig that lasts longer, coupled with a carto which also lasts longer than a simple cartridge+atty. And to find out how I like it is no steep price curve. Whoopie! I'm so glad I started this thread.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
Just read through these forums and ask questions. You will learn what you need to know soon enough just by doing that, and as you go, over a few weeks, you will have a ton more questions. I did. And so far not a single one of them was unanswered.
Yes, you all are certainly a very friendly group. It's funny because for years I was a member of a political forum, but I got sick of how they degraded over the years and now everyone is just shouting at each other and name calling and nobody listens to or debate the pros and cons with any rationality or objectiveness.
Then I became a member and still am of various tech forums, but even they can fall into b*tch fests over stuff like iPhone versus Droid or nitpicking system architecture or whatever (engineers are very detail oriented). However, here it kinda seems like all love and peace. Do e-cigs make you stoned?
That WAS rhetorical.
I am curious if a "weed" flavor exists out there somewhere. I don't smoke that stuff, but it's a curiosity. But no, it doesn't make you stoned, however I do think when ppl are getting off analogs, we get a sense of more self worth and willpower.
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