Is this a good begginer choice?

[RuiGomes]

Hello guys,

I'm a pipe smoker, because I just love to try out different tastes and so on.
I discovered E-cigars and the many e-liquid combinations that you can make if you DIY, and I want to try out.

I'm from Portugal and so I had choosen an European store: E-Liquid

This is my basket in the shop:

1x DSE 901 (including 2 batteries and 2 atomizers)
25x blank carts for DSE 901
1x PG 30ml - 24mg/ml nicotine
1x PG 100ml - no nicotine
1x VG 100ml - no nicotine

And a few syringes and droppers to store my combinations.


I also want to buy some flavours, but in that site there are flavourart and perfumers apprentice flavours. Flavourart is far more expensive, but is it really better?

And overall, is this a good choice?

 

[DM]

Looks like a good start for a beginner.
Both of the brands for flavoring are great. I use more of
the perfumers apprentis and loranns flavorings in my mixes

 

[Stevew443]

That looks like a good place to start. I started with the 510 and I was happy with it for over a year.
As for juices, you have to decide what you like. I did not get into trying my own mixes for quite some time.

I also was a pipe smoker, and I still have a LOT of tobacco aging in my cellar. One day that tobacco may pay for my retirement.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I would buy a couple more atomizers. If you're planning on making your own juice, I would get some flavors, too! Liberty Flights carries those as well.
Overall, it's a good start. Welcome aboard!

 

[RuiGomes]

I think that I will order just a few Perfumers Apprentice from Liberty Flights UK and then I'll order some more flavours directly from Lorrans site.

Which flavors are absolutely necessary for any DIYer?

 

[DM]

Flavors..... Depends on your taste. I have about 20 or so
I don't even use and thought for sure I would... Maybe one
day I will figure out what to mix them with
I also recommend checking out the recipes on this site and
see what others are mixing up. Might help you decide

 

[WomanOfHeart]

You should read up on DIY juice. Here are the links to those sub-forums:

DIY e-liquid
E-liquid Recipes

 

[RuiGomes]

You should read up on DIY juice. Here are the links to those sub-forums:

DIY e-liquid
E-liquid Recipes

I have already read most of the information on DIY e-liquid and I think that in my list there is everything required to make it. Or am I wrong?

 

[RuiGomes]

Here is my final order:

1x DSE 901 (including 2 batteries and 2 atomizers)
25x blank carts for DSE 901
1x PG 30ml - 24mg/ml nicotine
1x PG 100ml - no nicotine
1x VG 100ml - no nicotine
3x 10ml dropper
8x 5ml dropper
1x 5ml Vape Wizard
1x 5ml Flavourart Maxboro
1x 10ml Apple Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Caramel Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Cherry Blossom Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Chocolate Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Coconut Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Honey Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Lemon Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Peach Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Pina Colada Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Pineapple Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Spearmint Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Tobacco Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring
1x 10ml Watermelon Perfumers Apprentice Flavouring

 

[WomanOfHeart]

There really isn't a required list, per say. You've got quite the DIY kit going, though. It looks good to me!

 

[RuiGomes]

There really isn't a required list, per say. You've got quite the DIY kit going, though. It looks good to me!

Yes, of course. What I meant was that if I had everything required to start vaporing right away.
I don't want to spend 100€ and find out that I was missing items.

 

[DM]

You need empty bottles. 3 mil. 5 mil. 10 mil. I use 3 mil
to test flavors before making a big batch.

 

[RuiGomes]

You need empty bottles. 3 mil. 5 mil. 10 mil. I use 3 mil
to test flavors before making a big batch.

There are some empty droppers in my order:

3x 10ml dropper
8x 5ml dropper

Liberty Flights doesn't have 3ml droppers, so I will stick to the 5ml droppers.

 

[DM]

Looks like you are ready to confirm your order!!!

 

[RuiGomes]

Looks like you are ready to confirm your order!!!

I'm waiting for my Adsense payment to be deposited at my bank account, which should be tomorrow morning.
Until then, I would like more opinions

 

[MickeyRat]

Someone that knows better confirm this because I've never used a 901 and carts but, supposedly they have to be filled more often than even the 510s. Anyone else think some cartos would be a good idea?

 

[RuiGomes]

I just saw that LF sell the Riva 901 for about the same price as DSE 901.

Should I take the Riva 901? They say it has a better throat it and vapour production and also a bigger battery life.

 

[Shizzle]

what nicotine level are you aiming for? the reason i ask, is that 30mls of 24mg nicotine liquid is a good choice for a beginner if you're planning on making juice that is lower than 24mgs...but if you're planning on making 24mg liquid, or close to that, maybe not such a good choice...as since nicotine is the most expensive part of DIY, ordering it higher in strength and then mixing it down with plain PG and/or VG is much more cost effective...

however, it's also potentially much more dangerous -- as you must make sure you measure accurately so you don't accidentally put in too much (the free online e-liquid calculators are very helpful)...and, the use of protective gloves is imperative when handling high strength liquid nicotine (ECF says anything higher than 36mgs).

 

[RuiGomes]

what nicotine level are you aiming for? the reason i ask, is that 30mls of 24mg nicotine liquid is a good choice for a beginner if you're planning on making juice that is lower than 24mgs...but if you're planning on making 24mg liquid, or close to that, maybe not such a good choice...as since nicotine is the most expensive part of DIY, ordering it higher in strength and then mixing it down with plain PG and/or VG is much more cost effective...

however, it's also potentially much more dangerous -- as you must make sure you measure accurately so you don't accidentally put in too much (the free online e-liquid calculators are very helpful)...and, the use of protective gloves is imperative when handling high strength liquid nicotine (ECF says anything higher than 36mgs).

As I said, I'm not really an addicted smoker, so I will make my e-liquids without nicotine or with a low amount (6 to 8 mg/ml), so that 24mg/ml PG will be enough.

But thank you for the reminder.


About my last question, should I pick the riva 901 or should I pick the dse 901?

 

[Shizzle]

i haven't tried either -- however, of the reviews that i've seen that have tried both, most prefer the Riva 901.

btw, "igetcha69" has an informative youtube review on each one.