Is this bad?

[dash704]

Sorry if i seemed harsh. I get worried about people picking up nic for the "rush" in any way. Nicotine is not a fun drug in the long run. I hope you understand from a ten year smoker I am proud to be down to almost 6mg and you got zero..... lucky

All i know is my daughter is more important than my habit and I need to be there for her no matter what. Still friends?

 

[sanfordf]

It's also a little different that someone as young is on the forum (not that there's anything wrong with that). The average age here is over 30, so we can be an opinionated group sometimes.

vaping is a better choice than butts, but not needing anything that takes choice away is even better.

 

[Jimmy_2k9]

Well surely you aren't ignorant enough to think you have all the answers to proceed blindly with a decision without any advice?

I only came here to get everyone's opinion on what I originally decided to do. Obviously I will reconsider this plan, but I only needed opinions, not harsh judgments.

I never said I had all the answers, I ask for advice all the time. The thing is, your not really asking a debatable question here. Nicotine is an extremely addictive drug and in no case is it a good idea to "start" using it.

Every smoker I've ever known, admits it was a "stupid" mistake to start in the first place. Take what You want from my posts though, claim its "harsh judgments" if You like, but honestly I'm trying to help. Ask any veteran smoker how much they would of appreciated someone trying to talk them out of there nasty habit, before they got in over their heads.

I apologize if You were offended by anything I posted, but seriously its a foul habit. While vaping is worlds better for us than smoking is, its still a terrible habit to "start".

Oh and one more thing... If e-cigarettes actually do become banned at some point (which is a very real possibility at the moment) Your going to be stuck with... Much more harmful alternatives.

 

[winday]

Just follow your heart!

 

[Ntjordan]

But don't let your heart play tricks on your mind. The heart is a fickle thing, and often what it wants is not what is best. Recurring theme for me right now...

edit: uh... point of this was to agree, you should think very hard about how willing you are to give yourself over to nicotine. I wouldn't recommend it personally. Of course, I knew that to begin with, and yet here I am.

 

[Neekyme]

I think what a lot of (young) people miss is that nicotine is a drug - plain and simple. So asking if vaping is a good thing to pick up just for the heck of it, is in sense, like asking if picking up a crack pipe is a good thing. Nicotine is far more addictive than any other drug, as far as I know.

And I think some people don't realize that addictions last forever. You may quit smoking/vaping/chewing/whatever, but you will never lose the cravings for nicotine. Just as a ...... addict or alcoholic must constantly try to stay sober, it's something that stays with you.

I didnt start smoking until I was 20 years old, and I wish that I never would have picked them up.

 

[Jonmo1]

I didn't mean to imply I began vaping because I thought it was cool, rather I enjoyed the buzz and general feeling of alertness

What's the difference between
"Cool" And "I enjoyed the buzz and general feeling of alertness"

The buzz and alert feeling IS what was cool about smoking.
Mainly the "Buzz" is what made most of us continue smoking to the point of addiction.
And like posted before, once you're addicted, you don't get the buzz anymore.
That's how addiction works.
That's why Drug dealers will offer you a samples of crack for free untill you're hooked.
But then more will cost you.

Makes you wonder if that's the reason some Ecigs offer Free Trials??

 

[snarkypaws]

Like Jimmy, I don't know of one single person who is glad or even ambivalent about having started smoking. If it's a buzz and some good flavors you're looking for, may I suggest that you plug into some vintage Aerosmith and pop the cap on a 7-Up? More suggestions available if needed...

 

[Victor Frankenstein]

I appreciate the civility! I've been using bottles with 26mg for the past two months or so. I think I'll either cut that in half or possibly try out 0mg. We'll see how that goes.

Thanks again!

I don't want to pile on, but I'd recommend just dropping the whole thing. Right now you're just goofing off and having fun. If you continue using nicotine based juice you'll become addicted to nicotine.

Then what?

Your two choices would be to continue using nicotine for a long period of time (or the rest of your life) OR go through the pain in the ... process of trying to quit. Quitting is frustrating, annoying, and often riddled with many failed attempts. Each time you fail to quit you feel worse about it.

I will say the same to you as what I would say to anyone looking to start smoking cigarettes - set it down and walk away now.

 

[musashi]

don't start if you dont smoke, its not a good idea

 

[the_antisheep]

You can get a buzz from vaping? Since when? I remember my first vape, and it wasn't the buzz you get from cigs, it was like a sickly feeling...

I thought the buzz came from the CO2 in regular cigs? If that's the case, go huff your tailpipe and leave the vaping alone... (I'm not endorsing that either).

Want to pick up a life long addiction that's harder to kick then ......? Pick up nicotine use...

It's a non-question whether it's a good idea or not.

 

[frequentflyer]

I would go away from the nicotine. We are shifting from really bad to something probably less harmful. No body knows for sure. I would advise going with coffee or red bull. Nicotine is much more addictive. I started smoking for the exact same reason and trust me, it doesn't last that way. It quickly becomes a monkey that beats you instead of helps you.

 

[316lvm]

Hello ECF!

I just turned 18 in February and only socially smoked analogs before. My friend got me into the E-cig around March or April and I ordered one because of the headbuzz and delicious flavours.

My question is, is it bad that I started using it for this reason? I feel like most users here started to quit smoking, but I started to... well start "smoking" I guess.

Is it bad that I am or will be addicted to nicotine in e-juice form without any prior exposure?

Quite frankly, I'm surprised that the responses weren't harsher.

Your questions are akin to "Should I play chicken with a semi going 100mph down the highway?"

So, "Are you out of your ever loving mind?" If you want to smoke, smoke. If you want to vape, vape.

Most of the people on this forum are older and have been trying to quite an addiction that we wish we never started in the first place. MOst of us, have tried alternative methods to quit smoking and have failed. E-cigs are an alternative that has proven successful.

Secondly, when a younger person posts that they want to use e-cigs to get a buzz or look cool sends us oldtimers in freak out mode. That attitude and action puts us one step closer to a ban. It's exactly the ammo the FDA and anti-smoking, anti-ecig crusaders are looking for. Have you noticed that people who post on the forum aren't out telling people, "Hey, you gotta try this! It's sooooo cool and you can get a buzz!!! It comes in all these really neat flavors!" Drug dealers do that; we're not drug dealers.

Thirdly, have you considered the costs of pursuing this activity? Are you prepared for a life time of spending money on this activity? Yes, it is cheaper and better than cigs. However, without the addiction, your money could be better spent somewhere else.

If I sound harsh, it's because I am. I want to grab your attention and have you seriously think about what you are doing. I want you to think of how it will affect your body, mind, and income 2, 5, 10, 15 years down the line. I want you to think about how your actions will impact upon other people.

If, after all this, you do decide that you want to vape, then for God's sake, vape 0mg nic. Get your buzz from Mountain Dew and double expressos.

Seriously, hon, think about the lifelong ramifications of your decision.

Love,
Mom

 

[Zenfrogs]

First, if this is a legitimate request for advice you are smarter than most 18 year olds. If you want to vape socially you have the right to do that as an adult but you really should stay with non-nic juice for the following reasons:

1. the buzz you are chasing disappears within weeks.

2.unless you have unlimited funds... it becomes expensive. If you want a new "insert your personal interest here",ipod,video game etc. and you don't have the money you can wait until you do and then buy it ...

if you have an addiction to feed... you feed it first because you have no choice. Ever wonder why you see homeless people asking for smokes as often as the ask for food or change?? I guarantee because that they would just as soon have their fix as eat a cheeseburger. Ever think you have a bug on you and get that creepy crawly jumpy sensation? You can't quit thinking you have something on you...as soon as you forget about it... bam! you feel anxious again!! That is what it is like to desperately need your nicotine fix ... and when you don't get it you started to get ...... and annoyed at everything and everyone. Smoking is not fun ...and vaping is just a slightly healthier and cleaner way to feed an addiction...

nicotine addiction will make people do weird stuff.... ask the smokers you know how many of them have been out of smokes and dug through their ashtrays and smoked one of those stale, ashy, stinky (yes, they even stunk to smokers) butts. I think there was even a poll on here somewhere about that little habit. rational people don't dig through trash to get a fix or try to figure out which cig was theirs and which was their friends before deciding ..."whatever, I'll smoke it anyway" ...


3. we don't know the longterm effects of vaping.

If you want to vape some 0% nic socially because like many people who start they are the nervous type and need something to do with their hands well no one can stop you but give your Future Self a choice.

Think of it like a savings account ... our "present self" saves money for our "future self" in case we want to buy something or to have in an emergency. Your Present self can give your Future self the option to quit without the nasty physical issues that some of us have ...

I wish to god I could go back to 1988 and NOT buy that pack of Marlboro Reds.

 

[StormFinch]

nicotine addiction will make people do weird stuff.... ask the smokers you know how many of them have been out of smokes and dug through their ashtrays and smoked one of those stale, ashy, stinky (yes, they even stunk to smokers) butts. I think there was even a poll on here somewhere about that little habit. rational people don't dig through trash to get a fix or try to figure out which cig was theirs and which was their friends before deciding ..."whatever, I'll smoke it anyway" ...

There is a post stickied in the new members forum written by Glowgirl. She admitted that she had once actually crawled back into a van that was teetering on the edge of a cliff, after just getting out safely, because her cigarettes were on the front passenger seat. The whole post should really be required reading for non smokers and casual smokers thinking about taking up vaping. If a ban goes down and we can no longer get e-cig supplies it's back to the cancer sticks for most of us. So yeah, nicotine addiction makes you a complete ......

 

[the_antisheep]

There is a post stickied in the new members forum written by Glowgirl. She admitted that she had once actually crawled back into a van that was teetering on the edge of a cliff, after just getting out safely, because her cigarettes were on the front passenger seat. The whole post should really be required reading for non smokers and casual smokers thinking about taking up vaping. If a ban goes down and we can no longer get e-cig supplies it's back to the cancer sticks for most of us. So yeah, nicotine addiction makes you a complete ......

This is why I should be looking at a nic step down plan, as I guess most of us regulars should... Hopefully reach the zero mark before the bans.

 

[Poeia]

What buzz? Nicotine doesn't make you high. Once you are addicted to it, the lack of nicotine will make you irritable, jittery, etc. If you were getting a buzz when you were buying cigarettes, it was probably oxygen deprivation.

I did overdo it when vaping once, but that just made me nauseated. I put down the PV for a few hours and also immediately cut the strength of all my liquids by 1/3 to 1/2. Nausea is not a good thing.

As to whether the forum members think it's okay to start vaping when you don't need to, you knew the answer before you posted -- it's a stupid thing to do. As you are now 18, legally you are allowed to buy an electronic cigarette. But don't ask people who are using them to avoid a deadly product to condone your stupidity.

 

[CaptJay]

I don't know if all the respondent's read through ALL the replies but...

I appreciate the civility! I've been using bottles with 26mg for the past two months or so. I think I'll either cut that in half or possibly try out 0mg. We'll see how that goes.

Thanks again!

The OP is already vaping and has been for 2 months - and he looks willing to cut back/down/out his nic levels. I think he probably got the point about a page or so back lol. Its nice everyone wants to advise him, and hopefully he can see people have his best interests at heart becuase of their own experiences, and aren't just lecturing, but it looks like we're all a little late to the game now. I hope the withdrawal doesn't hit too hard - I honestly don't know if its easier or not if youve been addicted for less time.

 

[geeker]

A nicotine rush lasts about 10 seconds. NOT WORTH IT!

When was the last time you heard an 18 year old use a word like "civility"? LOL!

 

[StormFinch]

For CaptJay:

Actually Geeker, if they're raised reading they do. Both my sons have vocabularies that confuse some adults, (the younger one is 15) and my nephew was using the word indubitably correctly in a sentence by the time he was five.