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Brother Bonehead, if I could "like" your post a thousand times, I would!!
You asked if it's normal. IMO, no. So which are they, "protected" parents or hypocrites (doing same thing as you)?
Everyday a noob comes in wanting to know about their set up. Typically they are doing something unsafe and have no idea what or why. The first questions asked are about their batteries, DMM or ohm meter, equipment, etc and they have very little clue and don't have any way to test their builds before firing.
I'm not suggesting that is the case with you as I haven't asked and you haven't told me (at least as far as DMM/ohm meter goes). The knowledge in this forum is based on the experience and trials or tribulations of those more experienced vapers. They have established a margin of safety that they feel comfortable with and those who have followed their advice have had a wonderful Vaping experience.
If you ask for someone's opinion, expect to receive it. Otherwise, you have already made up your mind what you were going do and are simply trying to stir the pot.
So which is it, troll or vaper?
Ok let me change the question what is the lowest i should vape safely, i do want ur professional advice minus the sarcasm,
I would be more than happy to answer that question, but in order to do so I need to ask a question first.
What are you using to measure your resistance and what is it's accuracy?
On a $10 knock-off milli-ohm meter, I probably wouldn't go below 0.4 ohms to stay in the safe range of tolerances. That is my professional advice as an electronics technician of 20+ years.
As for how low you can go on your battery, closer to 0.15 ohms is acceptable... but you need something more like this to measure accurately: Vici Milli-ohm Meter
As for how low you can go on your battery, closer to 0.15 ohms is acceptable... but you need something more like this to measure accurately: Vici Milli-ohm Meter
True... you really do NEED a way to measure your battery's voltage so as to prevent over-discharge (suggested recharge when your battery reaches 3.5v, you really don't want to go much below that)
One thing to take into account is that the accuracy of this meter is +/- .04 ohms (the 0.4% is relative to full-scale). Don't confuse resolution with accuracy!
That's enough to make a significant difference in a .15 build.
So let me get this straight if i am defo running 0.15 with a vtc5 thats cool, but when i originally asked the question everyone was against it even tho they had no idea how i was checking the ohms???? But thank you kaezziel i will use a Vici Vc480c+ 3 1/2 Accuracy + 4 Wire Test Multimeter Digital Milli-ohm Meter
The TWO times I actually built extremely low ohm builds, I used my Extech 580... Which I only happened to own because of other work I do... I certainly wouldn't have spent $700 on a meter to build coils... I have my doubts as to rather he did either...
Of course I know you do too... LOL...Anyway, back to the point... Why did I only build extremely low twice? Because after doing so I kinda stood in the middle of my kitchen and thought to myself "WHY???"
I mean hey... I get it... I know guys who own supersport bikes who do nothing but ride them moderately on the street... I on the other hand was a member of NESBA and lived for track days... Then I also knew a few guys who were die hard racers... their entire life was racing...
For those who choose to "cloud chase" and push their equipment to the very edge, and sometimes beyond, rather for competition or just the occasional giggle, I totally get it... But then there are those who remind me of the guys that would get a liter bike as their first bike, slap a 1/5 throttle on it, power commander, race exhaust, etc and then go out on the street and ride like they thought they were the universes gift to racing... and I've personally known two of them who no longer ride... One because he suffered the consequences of his stupidity and the other who no longer has a life to live. Not to mention the countless stories from other forums...
The point is... if that's what you love to do... then by all means... pursue it... learn everything you can about it... understand everything about it and take it to the edge... Just as someone like me does with track days... or a racer does every time he sits at the starting line waiting for the flag...
but remember... that same racer has dedicated his life to what he does... he has extreme precision in his wrist when it comes to the throttle... He knows the exact power band of his bike... He knows every race line like the back of his hand... He knows the exact limits of his tires, not just now or later, but through the entire cycle... And he has a team of people making sure every piece of equipment is in tip top shape all for one very specific purpose... to keep him safe...
The jackhole who bought a bike last week and decides to go racing on the street isn't a "racer"... He's an idiot...
Now don't take what I'm saying the wrong way... I'm not saying you're "that guy"... But... try to understand something.... Just as "that guy" sits at a stop light and cranks the throttle and let's his engine bump off the rev limiter... Not because it serves any purpose... but only to say, "Hey! Look at me!!!!" well...
You came in here and posted an "extreme" setup... then asked, "Is this normal"? If you know enough to run a setup like that, then you KNOW it's not normal... In other words, it smells an awful lot of a "Hey! Look at me!!!" post...
Now you ask what the lowest you should vape at to be safe... I don't want to confuse the issue, but again, if you know what you need to know to be able to safely run extremely low ohm setups, then you'd never have to ask that question... because you'd already know... A racer doesn't say, "Hey, what's the safest speed I can enter turn 3?" He knows enough to KNOW... If on the other hand i'm misinterpreting your post, and instead you're saying, "Hey, if what I'm doing really isn't that safe, then where should I be?" then honestly, I'll just share this.... Back to the beginning of the story...
Why only twice? Because I realized that there wasn't a point for me... I realized that if I'm going to "sub-ohm" I'm happier in the .4 to .5 range... And actually, as of late I've come to find that generally I prefer a ~1ohm build on a regulated 50watt mod more than most sub-ohm builds... Why? It's just more enjoyable to me...
So again... if that's what makes you giggle, then by all means... But do your research... and research isn't saying, "hey, what should I do..." It's learning enough about the basics to be able to answer that question for yourself....
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And once i do get aVici Vc480c+ 3 1/2 Accuracy + 4 Wire Test Multimeter Digital Milli-ohm Meter i will check the difference in my ohm meter to that 1 and come back with the results
That's cool, Ash... honestly, you can do whatever you want. It's not like we're gonna police your builds for you... I just know that I don't trust my face to a $10 milli-ohm meter
Let me be clear... 0.15 ohms is technically within the limits of the battery if your resistance is spot on and nothing changes. But it is right at the very edge of the envelope. I DO NOT recommend running that low on a consistent basis at all! I would personally build that low only for playing around or for a cloud competition (if I were ever so inclined to enter one of those). But that is it.... I was simply stating the lowest resistance that still falls within the limits of the battery.... it does NOT account for any error or failure, so you would have NO safety margin...
Do whatever you want. I could care less if you blow your face off. It would be funny and all your bros would get a kick out of it.
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The point is, you are aware (or should better informed, now) of the hidden potential risks of pushing a battery at and beyond it's working limit. As such, based on the said, you will ultimately determine what is best for yourself.
Myself, with info in mind, I never vape below 0.5 ohms. YMMV
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