Is vaping more dangerous than we think?

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

I feel like the many people are too cocky about the healthiness of vaping. There are many harmful chemicals in the flavoring of the liquids. Sure, the ingredients may be "safe for consumption", but not necessarily for inhalation. I.e., popcorn lung, etc..

At this time I still support vaping as a crutch to quit smoking, but I worry about those who have picked up vaping recreationally.

 

[Romano Cheese]

I feel like there are too many posts about Diacetyl right now and the fear mongering is out of control.

 

[SpyderBite]

I mentioned this in a similar thread earlier... All I know is that I feel a thousand times healthier now than I did while smoking analogs. Now I don't have to worry about the "when" I will die.. just the "how" and "if".

 

[JMarca]

People need to stop believing everything they read in the newspaper or on TV. Ever stop to think there's a hidden agenda behind all the attention vaping gets? Just a few years ago when we were considered a niche market no one gave 2 ....s if we were killing ourselves, now that there's money to be made everyone is crying save our children!

Even if it's not healthier than not vaping at all which I'm sure it is, guess what? It helped me kick a 23 year addiction to something that my doctor almost guaranteed would kill me in the next 5-10 years.

Problem is according to the state of California drinking water can also be bad so either way I'm ....ed right? Cheers, have a vape!

 

[Devn]

we're all adults here and know what we're putting into our systems. at least, i hope we're all adults here and understand that vaping may have some side effects that's yet to be discovered. some side effects i know now are i stink less.

If someone's going to start vaping, they were probably going to start smoking if vaping were not available. I mean hell, at 18 i smoked but if vaping was there, i'd vape instead.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I feel like there are too many posts about Diacetyl right now and the fear mongering is out of control.

Absolutely this.^^ Sure there's plenty of maybes and we just don't knows but too many people have latched on to that and are off to the races. Spouting it off as factual without a doubt evidence and we don't have anything close to that at this time. The only thing I will agree about is that vaping is not more healthy than not taking in any foreign chemicals into your lungs.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

No one being truthful has ever stated vaping is safe, healthy, harmless or risk free.
A safer alternative to tobacco, tobacco harm reduction, yes.

I don't support recreational vaping, but, it isn't any of my business what other adults chose to do.

Folks that jump into almost anything without a little research & consideration then fail to make a personal risk assessment before starting whatever it is are foolish, IMO.

Problem is we have far too many foolish people in this world that want to rely on someone else to make decisions for them, or, find a way to blame someone else when they make a uninformed or poor decision.

 

[mattiem]

I feel like the many people are too cocky about the healthiness of vaping. There are many harmful chemicals in the flavoring of the liquids. Sure, the ingredients may be "safe for consumption", but not necessarily for inhalation. I.e., popcorn lung, etc..

At this time I still support vaping as a crutch to quit smoking, but I worry about those who have picked up vaping recreationally.

My concern is about all the smokers out there that WON'T give this a chance because of all the fear mongering that has re-emerged Follow the money and you will get to the root of this.

 

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

My concern is about all the smokers out there that WON'T give this a chance because of all the fear mongering that has re-emerged Follow the money and you will get to the root of this.

There is certainly harm when you are inhaling anything. It is not fear mongering propaganda. It is scientific fact that has been researched by well established universities.

I understand that as a vaper you are biased and will always assume that "Big Tobacco" is trying to brainwash you. But that is not the case.


For instance, I used to smoke {other stuff}, and I thought the government was always trying to mislead us with ridiculous information, and sometimes they were, but it turns out that more often then not, the studies were true. I developed psychosis and depersonilization disorder as a result of my {other stuff} use. I have since quit. But it turns out that while it is harmless physically, it can cause intense psychological scarring.

That is my story trying to tell how when we love something we don't always want to believe it's bad for us.

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[bwh79]

There are many harmful chemicals in the flavoring of the liquids.

*a handful of potentially-harmful chemicals, and many unknowns. You speak as if anyone has ever actually come to harm from vaping these, which they have not. You know there's diacetyl in cigarettes too, right? And in greater quantities than what we vape. But where are all the smokers dying of popcorn lung?

 

[ReigntheGamer]

And now the point of the OP comes to fruition.

 

[VHRB2014]

These things seem to come in waves! Bad report by questionable "scientists" is released, and then the wave. Like the report needs support or something.

BARFFFFFFFFF.

 

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

And now the point of the OP comes to fruition.

I am not trolling. I am a genuine person sparking an intellectual debate.

If you are speaking about me being a troll because I stated that I developed psychological issues because of {Other stuff} use, then that is truly ironic. Because that proves my point that people who are inclined to believe something is harmless do not easily sway from that thought process.



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[bigdancehawk]

I feel like the many people are too cocky about the healthiness of vaping. There are many harmful chemicals in the flavoring of the liquids. Sure, the ingredients may be "safe for consumption", but not necessarily for inhalation. I.e., popcorn lung, etc..

At this time I still support vaping as a crutch to quit smoking, but I worry about those who have picked up vaping recreationally.

You can inform yourself on the "popcorn lung" issue in this forum HERE.

 

[Susan~S]

It is not fear mongering propaganda. It is scientific fact that has been researched by well established universities

I disagree.

If you are referring to the latest Harvard study see this by Dr. Farsalinos and spend some time in the Media and General News Forum

• A new study finds diacetyl in e-cigarettes but exaggerates risks and fails to discuss about smoking

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I am not trolling. I am a genuine person sparking an intellectual debate.

If you are speaking about me being a troll because I stated that I developed psychological issues because of weed use, then that is truly ironic. Because that proves my point that people who are inclined to believe something is harmless do not easily sway from that thought process.



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Has nothing to do with any of that at all, it just occurred to me I remember a lot of your old posts and they headed the same direction as well. And especially after such a long hiatus for this to pop up now it's ridiculously easy to spot.

But by all means proceed I'm sure you'll get a few more bites before the day is over.

 

[440BB]

I don't think one can compare the side effects of taking a mind altering substance with vaping, a fairly low impact method of nicotine delivery. Flavorings can cause irritation in some cases, but one can also vape unflavored liquid. There may be a few flavoring components which one should avoid, but that is no reason to demonize all of vaping. If there were significant side effects we would have seen them across the large vaping population by now.

 

[JMarca]

You should read:
Managing Conflicting Interests in Medical Journal Publishing

For the record, be careful with the drug talk on this forum it's against the rules and highly enforced. That aside, no one is saying that vaping is 100% good for you, but I guarantee you the amounts of dikatones found in e-liquid are NOTHING compared to the same levels found in cigarettes, that's a FACT! Have you heard of many smokers dying of popcorn lung?

 

[93gc40]

IDK, I never thought it was safe. Until it's proven to be more dangerous than smoking... I'll be happy

I assume, vaping is more hazardous than we know, at the moment. Especially the way I vape. I vape flavors made from and using tobacco, NETs. So of course, some tobacco chemicals MUST be present. In my mind, all I am avoiding is the smoke. I smoked Marlboro Reds for 40 years. I know that the Pipe and cigar tobacco NETs I use don't have near the extra chemical crap or even the bad natural chemicals that are in those. Except for maybe the nicotine, which depending on how you look at it, juice, might have more than cigarettes. But again it is vaporized/atomized, rather than combusted.

 

[MMW]

So, you don't think that any of these news and press releases of mere POSSIBILITIES have anything to do with winning over the general public and in a sense "fear mongering", in light of the impending regulations that will take away an adults right to choose? I'm guessing we must be conspiracy theorists and such?

There is certainly harm when you are inhaling anything. It is not fear mongering propaganda. It is scientific fact that has been researched by well established universities.

I understand that as a vaper you are biased and will always assume that "Big Tobacco" is trying to brainwash you. But that is not the case.


For instance, I used to smoke {other stuff}, and I thought the government was always trying to mislead us with ridiculous information, and sometimes they were, but it turns out that more often then not, the studies were true. I developed psychosis and depersonilization disorder as a result of my {other stuff} use. I have since quit. But it turns out that while it is harmless physically, it can cause intense psychological scarring.

That is my story trying to tell how when we love something we don't always want to believe it's bad for us.

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