Is VV Right For Me Or Stay Where I am

[KySky]

As you can tell I’m still newbie. I’ve been analog free two weeks now after 30+ years. I would have never thought it!

So,I started out with the V2 E-cig Starter Kit. I’ve taken to vaping e-cig’s like ducks to water. I do not miss my analogs at all. I still have 5 packs of analogs in the refrigerator door back from when I started vaping. The starter kit's worked so well in fact that I’m wondering if it’s time for me to consider getting better equipment since it appears I’m going to be vaping for the foreseeable future.

I have been trolling these boards for 2 weeks and the more I read the more I get confused. Most threads start out with simple enough questions or concerns, but after a couple of replies the original topics rapidly take off in other directions without fully addressing the OP’s comments.

I’m a simple man with no understanding of all the technical aspects of the e-cig’s compilations. As mentioned above, I’ve been trolling/reading for two weeks every day and I am no closer today to my objective than I was when I started. My time to invest in googling/research is very limited due to my work hours. But what I’ve figured out thus far is this:

Before I switched to e-cigs I smoked 1 pack a day of light cigarettes. No name brands, only what I could afford which comes with terrible taste with little to no quality control. Years of abuse to my taste buds and lugs have surely suffered from my negligence. All I cared about was the fix. That was old me. Now the new me.

Do I really need to consider a VV Battery or giving my "light" habit should I not concern myself about it? I’ve bought 8 Kanger M3 Clearomizers. I fill my clearo (1ml) up in the mornings and when I get home in the evenings it’s usually at the .4 line. I top it off for the evening and start over again in the morning. So I figure I vape about 1ml a day. I also find 12mg nic 80/20 e-juice (from PickSpot Vapors) is OK for TH, unless I take back to back hits, then the TH feels more like 24mg nic. I’ve read that going with 50/50 juice will likely take care of this issue, so what is the deal with VV then. Is it more for heavy smokers like those who analog 1 ½ to 2 packs a day? Or will VV make 12mg nic juice feel more like 6mg nic juice?

And what about the battery? My kit came with two auto batteries. One short and one long. All I know for sure are they are 4.2 volts autos, I don’t know the mah’s. The shorter of the two batteries will last me all day until I get home in the evenings. I put the smaller one on charge when I get home, tee up the longer battery for the rest of that evening, then after two evenings the longer battery is ready for a charge. This is the routine I’ve discovered. Besides, the sales guy told me these batteries come with a life time warranty and that if I ever have any trouble with the batt’s that he would swap my old one for a new one.

I’d like to think about upgrading my equipment, but all the technical stuff associated with upgrading is really wearing me out. When people start calling out their modified e-cigs, it’s like trying to understand what a car enthusiast is talking about when they go into details about their latest motor mod’s or a geeks latest PC build. So, am I to "light" a vapor to consider VV?

Thanks Group for your ongoing support.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Honestly? It sounds like you're doing just fine on what you have right now and you're happy and not smoking analogs. If that's the case, I see no need to upgrade at all.

Nobody's too "light" a vaper to consider VV, it depends on what you want. I have two simple VV models (the inexpensive Vision Spinner) and do like them, but most of the time I use my automatic, 3.6 v Volt X2 with a reasonably-standard 2.4 ohm resistor. It works for me.

Early on, I needed the Spinner a lot more as I had trouble coming off the analogs. The higher voltage (up to 4.8 on that model) helped with the vapor production and nicotine amount getting into me. I found myself slowly dropping the voltage setting back toward 3.7, and when I got there I went back to the Volts.

Some people are real sticklers on flavor, so they're always fiddling with the voltage to get the perfect-tasting vape. I tend to prefer simple flavors and just don't want them to taste burned, so that's not a consideration for me.

Again, if what you have makes you happy, use it until it dies. Then replace it for free from your vendor, or look at a new model if you want to.

 

[Amish Ed]

The beauty of VV is that you can find the sweet spot for each flavor and you can use a wide variety of devices at different resistances. I'd suggest either a Spinner or Twist, a charger, and a couple of Kanger T3 or Vivi Novas. If you went with the T3 you'd be looking at about $40 with one battery and charger. It's a cheap way to find out if VV is for you and at the very least you have another backup.

 

[*deleon517*]

i wouldnt say your too light of a vaper.... when i started over 2 years ago as a 2 pack a day smoker, all that was available were cig stlye batteries, and you had to make it work. now there are 3 basic styles, cig like, ego like and mods, and in each category will have its own sub category so its natural to be confused.

since you do have a local shop, see if they have any demo mods in either variable voltage or wattage. this way you can see if it 1) feels comfortable for you, 2) can deliver your needs. some get into mods as more of a hobby thing, other go that route looking for more. if you want to try out a mod that wont break the bank look into the vamo, it works well is reasonably priced and can use 1 18350(smaller battery) or 1 18650(larger battery) so it can easy be changed in size.

I was perfectly fine using ego style batteries, and was actually given my first variable voltage mod as a tester for a company. since then i have purchased several mods including 3 lavatubes one of each of volcano's versions. a darwin, as well as several box mods and wetboxes(i know this is getting off your topic, but just using it to show my point that everyone will have a preference). and yes i do still use the ego style batteries from time to time.

 

[grandmato5]

Welcome to the wonderful world of vaping

Since you'd like to try out an upgrade to what you already have and since you are a light vaporer I'd suggest a 650 mah Twist battery so you can experience vv vaping. You can vape at the same volts you are vaping with now if thats what you wish to do, or even lower volts but it would also allow you to try out some other voltages to see if you like them. Since the twist rarely come in kits and are bought most often as single batteries you could get just one and a charger for it to see if you like it before purchasing a second battery although most often it is recommended to get two batteries at the same time so you have one to use while charging the second one.

No, vv wont make 12 mg feel like 6 mg juice. Some people find if they vape higher voltages they want lower mg juice. Trying out some 50/50 mix juice sounds like a great idea for you.

Hope this helps.

 

[fourthrok]

I'd say hang with what you are using for now. It's working well for you and you are happy (and not smoking!) Participate in the forum as you have been, and also check out the forum on the vendor site that your e-cig came from. I learned a lot there, and didn't even join here until I'd been vaping nearly a year. As for variable voltage, you really don't need it at this stage. It's like being ten foot tall. Good for some things, not so good for others. I've been vaping over 15 months exclusively, and while I have 4 VV devices, I don't really use them as they were intended. I just set them to about 3.6 or so. Then I leave it there. Same as most regulated batteries units. I use the VV Gripper more than the other VV devices I have because it has ah ohm checker (don't worry about that just yet) and will tell me what level my battery is and if it needs charging. Mostly, however, I use "mechanical mods" and regulated mods.

Just enjoy your vaping! You are doing great, and sounds like you have a set up that is working well for you! This place can make you feel like you "need" to get the "latest and greatest". It can become an addiction unto itself. There will be time for that later. Right now, just enjoy!

 

[blondeambition3]

Some people are real sticklers on flavor, so they're always fiddling with the voltage to get the perfect-tasting vape.

Morpheus brought up an excellent 'point' here. I formerly believed that vaping at higher Voltages meant a higher likelihood of burning juices, so I couldn't understand why so many vapers were raving about higher volt vaping. I honestly believed it was just so much 'hype'... ..... And then an ECF super Vendor supplied me with a Variable Voltage Battery to beta test and then suddenly!.... the Juices that were delicious at 3.2, 3.7 (What have you) literally exploded with flavor, vapor and throat hit at 4.0! Let me tell you, this literally brought vaping up to a whole new level of Nirvana for me.

It really sounds to me as if you're pretty comfortable where you are. I just thought I'd throw my personal epiphany into the mix for future reference if you ever start to feel 'restless'.... YKWIM?

Best of luck to you!

 

[KySky]

Early on, I needed the Spinner a lot more as I had trouble coming off the analogs. The higher voltage (up to 4.8 on that model) helped with the vapor production and nicotine amount getting into me. I found myself slowly dropping the voltage setting back toward 3.7, and when I got there I went back to the Volts.

So, I'm currently using 4.2V. But if I reduce this to 3.7 I be reducing nicotine amount and reducing vapor production?

since you do have a local shop, see if they have any demo mods in either variable voltage or wattage. this way you can see if it 1) feels comfortable for you, 2) can deliver your needs.

Good advise, it's just one guy (the owner) is the only one who seems to know anything, the help just shrug their sholders like WTH am I talking about. I need to arrange a meeting with the owner and a lot of time to ask questions.

No, vv wont make 12 mg feel like 6 mg juice. Some people find if they vape higher voltages they want lower mg juice. Trying out some 50/50 mix juice sounds like a great idea for you.

Do you think 50% VG mix will cause problems with my current Clearo's?

 

[KySky]

Thanks for all of the great advise. Guess I will leave well enough alone for now and enjoy what I have. Oh, and I now have 5 posts, thats means I can post in other places!

 

[MorpheusPA]

So, I'm currently using 4.2V. But if I reduce this to 3.7 I be reducing nicotine amount and reducing vapor production?

I've actually never heard of a device that regulates to 4.2 volts, but it certainly isn't impossible in the slightest (I could design one easily with a power chip from my electronics box in about ten minutes). So personally I'd check that with a voltmeter, but for now I'll take your word on it.

Reducing voltage will, as a general rule and with a lot of factors we're not considering, reduce vapor production and make the resulting vapor colder. Less vapor means less vaporized nicotine in the smaller amount of vapor, so you'll get less nic per hit. That would tend to make you vape more often to get the same amount of nicotine, but would result in using the same amount of liquid because each draw contains less liquid that's been vaporized.

Some of the vapor production is psychological. I really like huge clouds of vapor, so I personally use vegetable glycerine at 30% to produce that. 100% PG disappoints me, but it does deliver the nicotine without all the fog. For me, I'm not vaping unless I'm in a small cloud. Other people don't care one way or the other.

Within limits, reasonably close voltages won't show any difference and you won't notice the nicotine difference. I doubt you'd see or feel any difference between 4.5 v and 4.7 v, for instance. I definitely notice it between 3.3 v (cold, thin vapor), 3.7 v (moderate, modestly warm), and 4.2 (lots of vapor, warm).

Do you think 50% VG mix will cause problems with my current Clearo's?

Probably not. If you find it does, you can always add a drop or two (no more at a time) of distilled water to the liquid to thin it a touch. That'll take care of it.

 

[vidpoboy]

I say, if it works for you stick with it. You seem to be doing great, good for you.

I started with a vv Mod and I love it. Big issue for me is I started vaping to get of the stinkies and to stop spending the cash on smokes. Now I want to spend on new vaping toys. It seem to be a real addiction around here.
If I start buying up stuff I'll never save any cash.

 

[patmontes]

Welome to vaping!!! Stay with what you have till you can find a store or friend to give you a trial vape on a vv and see if you like it....

 

[klynnn]

I also started with the v2 and stayed there a couple mos but as a heavy smoker it just wasn't enough for me. I was constantly charging the cig-alike batteries and refilling cartos. I also had no technical knowledge of ohms or resistance. I finally stepped up to the kgo which lasted all day and it became my first love. Then I just had to try the vv twists and spinners to see what all the hype was. It really wasn't till I got the provari that I finally started to understand about the differences in ohms and resistance as you can see the actual readout on the screen. For me the journey was well worth it and I do think the vv is really worth trying since it is available in the cheaper batteries nowadays. Take your time and continue to read on the forum I have learned a tremendous amount and people here will always answer any questions.