It comes in a "fresh-tasting minty spray"

[Boiler]

Not true, according to my Allergist who handed me case studies regarding allergic reaction to PG used in anesthesia.

Yes, it seems like a lot more vapors report difficulties than can be accounted for without an allergic element. It would be nice if that FAQ could be amended.

 

[Fiamma]

Apparently, only the older kids:

"Nicorette QuickMist is contraindicated in children under 12 years."

'Spose if they are at least 12 and a half then it would be ok.

WHOA !! They keep whining about children and flavors and yet this is ok for kids 12 and up? Whatever happened to the 'e cigs could be a gateway to smoking' claim? And they can use this at 12? Which 12 yr old do they think needs NRT's?

Tell you what, if it was my 12 yr old, I'd smack an ego in his hand and make him juice before I'd give him that crap.

 

[Kurt]

OK - thanks Kurt & Morpheus.

I had read on here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/177551-pg-vg-peg.html That - "Because it [Pg] is made from non-organic sources (via synthetic processes) allergies are not believed possible."

It made wonder about alternative causes other than an allergy for those having problems with Pg. Then, hearing about the high pH level of Pg (x100 more alkaline than water) made it sound significant, to me anyway.

PG is very slightly less acidic than water. Not sure what you mean by 100x more alkaline, but that woold be 2 pKa units, and PG is only 0.25 pKa units less acidic than water. One would not even notice such a small difference.

Nicotine, however, is about a billion times more basic than water. Sounds like an enormous amount, but nicotine is still considered a weak base. "Times" is kind of misleading. Better to think of log(times), if that makes any sense. Nothing in juices is really considered very alkaline.

 

[rothenbj]

All I can say about this product is that the FDA has surely not done their due diligence on the dangers of this product. First you have PG, a product that the FDA has condemned in 2009 as being in anti-freeze. On top of that Anhydrous ethanol has been added, a product of gasoline. That in itself makes this dangerous product more questionable than nicquid.

Added to those facts, the product does not have the controls required of E Cigs. In the fact that they can be placed on drug store shelves easily reached by children and the fact that it is sold in a yummy flavor and you have the recipe for disaster. What is more troubling is that the product is actively being marketed to children-

Adults and Children over 12 years of age

Use 1 or 2 sprays when cigarettes normally would have been smoked or if cravings emerge. If after the first spray cravings are not controlled within a few minutes, a second spray should be used. If 2 sprays are required, future doses may be delivered as 2 consecutive sprays.

Sure, they are not to be used by children under 12, but the major demographics of smoking children is in the age group of 12 to 25 (yes, the government wants anyone under 26 to be considered a child today unless they want to put automatic weapons in their hands).

But the biggest threat is not knowing the long term effects of putting antifreeze and gasoline in your mouth for decades. Yes, the manufacturer wants you to believe it's a short term product. However, unless the nanny state can have cameras everywhere, it will be used by many free thinking Americans as a long term solution, just like the gum and patch. The Pharma industry knows this.

Finally, the user of this mist is still addicted to nicotine and big brother can't have this. Nicotine is deadly and you never know how many Mist users will squirt a whole bottle's worth of antifreeze and gasoline in their mouths to get their fix.

The product needs to be banned. Oh wait,,,,,,Johnson and Johnson makes it. That's a rubber stamp for the FDA, a fine pHARMA Giant.

 

[Petrodus]

All I can say about this product is that the FDA has surely not done their due diligence on the dangers of this product. First you have PG, a product that the FDA has condemned in 2009 as being in anti-freeze. On top of that Anhydrous ethanol has been added, a product of gasoline. That in itself makes this dangerous product more questionable than nicquid.

Added to those facts, the product does not have the controls required of E Cigs. In the fact that they can be placed on drug store shelves easily reached by children and the fact that it is sold in a yummy flavor and you have the recipe for disaster. What is more troubling is that the product is actively being marketed to children-

Sure, they are not to be used by children under 12, but the major demographics of smoking children is in the age group of 12 to 25 (yes, the government wants anyone under 26 to be considered a child today unless they want to put automatic weapons in their hands).

But the biggest threat is not knowing the long term effects of putting antifreeze and gasoline in your mouth for decades. Yes, the manufacturer wants you to believe it's a short term product. However, unless the nanny state can have cameras everywhere, it will be used by many free thinking Americans as a long term solution, just like the gum and patch. The Pharma industry knows this.

Finally, the user of this mist is still addicted to nicotine and big brother can't have this. Nicotine is deadly and you never know how many Mist users will squirt a whole bottle's worth of antifreeze and gasoline in their mouths to get their fix.

The product needs to be banned. Oh wait,,,,,,Johnson and Johnson makes it. That's a rubber stamp for the FDA, a fine pHARMA Giant.

rothenbj ... You crack me up !!

 

[DC2]

Finally, the user of this mist is still addicted to nicotine and big brother can't have this. Nicotine is deadly and you never know how many Mist users will squirt a whole bottle's worth of antifreeze and gasoline in their mouths to get their fix.

I believe you left out the part about these things being a gateway to smoking.
Other than that, I think you touched all the bases.

 

[rothenbj]

I believe you left out the part about these things being a gateway to smoking.
Other than that, I think you touched all the bases.

You're absolutely correct DC. The hand to mouth trigger is still being pulled.

 

[Daniel13]

i love how they basically tell you to waste half of it, honestly that thing looks too difficult to use, and it says to avoid swallowing it for some reason hmmm and basically avoid skin contact. i think i'll stick with some simple rebuildable atomizers and variable voltage mods, cheaper and easier

 

[2coils]

All I can say about this product is that the FDA has surely not done their due diligence on the dangers of this product. First you have PG, a product that the FDA has condemned in 2009 as being in anti-freeze. On top of that Anhydrous ethanol has been added, a product of gasoline. That in itself makes this dangerous product more questionable than nicquid.

Added to those facts, the product does not have the controls required of E Cigs. In the fact that they can be placed on drug store shelves easily reached by children and the fact that it is sold in a yummy flavor and you have the recipe for disaster. What is more troubling is that the product is actively being marketed to children-



Sure, they are not to be used by children under 12, but the major demographics of smoking children is in the age group of 12 to 25 (yes, the government wants anyone under 26 to be considered a child today unless they want to put automatic weapons in their hands).

But the biggest threat is not knowing the long term effects of putting antifreeze and gasoline in your mouth for decades. Yes, the manufacturer wants you to believe it's a short term product. However, unless the nanny state can have cameras everywhere, it will be used by many free thinking Americans as a long term solution, just like the gum and patch. The Pharma industry knows this.

Finally, the user of this mist is still addicted to nicotine and big brother can't have this. Nicotine is deadly and you never know how many Mist users will squirt a whole bottle's worth of antifreeze and gasoline in their mouths to get their fix.

The product needs to be banned. Oh wait,,,,,,Johnson and Johnson makes it. That's a rubber stamp for the FDA, a fine pHARMA Giant.

Thoroughly enjoyable post. How Ironic!

 

[Fiamma]

All I can say about this product is that the FDA has surely not done their due diligence on the dangers of this product. First you have PG, a product that the FDA has condemned in 2009 as being in anti-freeze. On top of that Anhydrous ethanol has been added, a product of gasoline. That in itself makes this dangerous product more questionable than nicquid.

Added to those facts, the product does not have the controls required of E Cigs. In the fact that they can be placed on drug store shelves easily reached by children and the fact that it is sold in a yummy flavor and you have the recipe for disaster. What is more troubling is that the product is actively being marketed to children-



Sure, they are not to be used by children under 12, but the major demographics of smoking children is in the age group of 12 to 25 (yes, the government wants anyone under 26 to be considered a child today unless they want to put automatic weapons in their hands).

But the biggest threat is not knowing the long term effects of putting antifreeze and gasoline in your mouth for decades. Yes, the manufacturer wants you to believe it's a short term product. However, unless the nanny state can have cameras everywhere, it will be used by many free thinking Americans as a long term solution, just like the gum and patch. The Pharma industry knows this.

Finally, the user of this mist is still addicted to nicotine and big brother can't have this. Nicotine is deadly and you never know how many Mist users will squirt a whole bottle's worth of antifreeze and gasoline in their mouths to get their fix.

The product needs to be banned. Oh wait,,,,,,Johnson and Johnson makes it. That's a rubber stamp for the FDA, a fine pHARMA Giant.

I love it

Wonder what would happen if someone missed their mouth and hit their eyes?