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VW a fad, hardly. VW polls the atomizer and delivers precise vape each time.
It's superior technology, guess 5 amps is a Fad, and the DNA20D which will drive a .6 Ohm Sub Ohm Coil into the High 3v is a fad.
I own a Provari and it's fine for Plain Jane Vanilla vaping, but other technologies are leaving it behind.
No Comment on SVD, don't own one.
Look at the Bottom Feeders, they are superior to the top feeders [Arguably] and a DNA20D bottom feeder is the bomb.
Comparing a Mech to VW is ridiculous the units are used for different things. Most VW including the Provari have a Ohm limitation of 1 Ohm and Mechs are primarily [Arguably] used in Sub Ohm Vaping. I go into my local vape Shop and the guys are all on Mechs with .3 Ohm RBA Atomizers.
My VW DNA20D Bogger Box will do .6 at 20 watts but won't go lower in Ohms. Look in the future for more advanced boards that will eventually give the Mechs a run for there money.
Watch this You Tube Video and in High V Vaping on a 1.18 Ohm RBA, the Provari can't keep up.
It's superior technology, guess 5 amps is a Fad, and the DNA20D which will drive a .6 Ohm Sub Ohm Coil into the High 3v is a fad.
I own a Provari and it's fine for Plain Jane Vanilla vaping, but other technologies are leaving it behind.
No Comment on SVD, don't own one.
Look at the Bottom Feeders, they are superior to the top feeders [Arguably] and a DNA20D bottom feeder is the bomb.
Comparing a Mech to VW is ridiculous the units are used for different things. Most VW including the Provari have a Ohm limitation of 1 Ohm and Mechs are primarily [Arguably] used in Sub Ohm Vaping. I go into my local vape Shop and the guys are all on Mechs with .3 Ohm RBA Atomizers.
My VW DNA20D Bogger Box will do .6 at 20 watts but won't go lower in Ohms. Look in the future for more advanced boards that will eventually give the Mechs a run for there money.
Watch this You Tube Video and in High V Vaping on a 1.18 Ohm RBA, the Provari can't keep up.
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That's not the point of VW at all. With VW, you can swap tanks or attys and not worry about your settings. It also automatically compensates when your tank or atty has slight variances in resistance as it warms or ages. If you look at the graphs, devices like the SVD do not have a problem regulating power on lower ohm heads.
Having said that, yes, the Provari is a more solid device but it's also an aging devise in need of a makeover. It needs a new connection that's compatible with ego clearomizers. It has trouble with the Pro Tank II. It needs VW. It needs separate buttons to adjust voltage and power and to allow for changing all settings faster (who wants to fiddle through a cumbersome menu on a one button device to simply turn the unit on and off?). Does it have a removable drip well/top ring?
At this point, I'd wait for the next Provari and buy something cheap to hold you over.
I agree with you on everything except the 1 button approach. That Button on the Provari is sealed and you can get it wet with juice to your hearts content and it will never fail. The more buttons you have the more likelihood of a leaky seal. So I think that the One button design is good. I just don't like how many times you have to click it. Cut it down to 3 super fast clicks and no spaces in between for the menu. VW is not necessary but they have to upgrade it to 5 or 6 amps from 3.5 and allow it to go down to .6 Ohms or less.
I am not sure the target audience is going to use the Provari for sub ohm coils. Some would like it, sure, but the masses ?
It's about perception and bragging rights. Now that the DNA20D is doing Sub Ohm Coil, the rest are going to follow. And if the Provari stays in it's old niche.
How many Horse and Buggy Whips do you see for sale in the classifieds compared to hubcaps!
I bought a Provari because it was ahead of it's time, eventually people will stop paying the bucks for a APV that's behind the times.
Give the Chinese another 2 years and the Provari will be toast, if they don't innovate.
You are either Green and Growing or Ripe and Rotten.
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Well I use my Provari for carto tanks mostly, and it performs better than any other VV device I have tried, and I have tried ALOT. This is of course just my personal exper I don't think most people looking seriously at a Provari care at all for bragging rights. We just want the best available VV (tube) device we can get.
I like both vv and vw. I have a couple of kicks, and they work great. I guess we will have to wait and see what the Chinese "innovations" will be. But I just don't see the Provari being taken over any time soon. For me, it does exactly what I was told it would do...and a little bit better.
I like both vv and vw. I have a couple of kicks, and they work great. I guess we will have to wait and see what the Chinese "innovations" will be. But I just don't see the Provari being taken over any time soon. For me, it does exactly what I was told it would do...and a little bit better.
I agree to disagree. I bought my Provari because of its reputation as a consistant, dependable, and durable variable voltage APV. Having owned my first one for one year, it has not disappointed me ever. The fact that Provape has such great customer service and will repair it for as long as I have it was a huge factor, too. This Provari has proven its durability by surviving falls and other accidental punishments that would have destroyed any of the Chinese-origin devices that I own.
I'm a relatively simple vapor. I primarily use cartotanks. I also use a couple of AGA-T2 rebuildable tanks on the Provari's with 2.0 ohm coils which are totally more than satisfactory to me. I have no desire to dive into the sub ohm world, nor do I have any use for variable wattage. I know the wattage I prefer and buy the correct resistance delivery device to acheive that wattage. If I was in the market for another APV (which I'm not), I'd choose another Provari because it offers everything that I need and does it better than any other APV.
The Chinese will never catch up to American build construction and quality of parts. That's not part of their nature. They build things on the cheap to sell cheap. Always have, and always will. They will never be able to offer the same after-warranty service that a good US company can. In fact, they don't even offer one. They expect you to just buy another. After needing to buy a few replacements like that, I'd get pretty disgusted. I'd rather just buy once and cry once - and never regret it.
I guess your and my priorities and expectations for a APV are far different.
I'll probably still have one of my Provari's in my hand while lying in my casket, with the fire button blinking away telling me that it's battery needs to be replaced.
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I wish you'd find another term besides "vanilla." Paired with your videos it's creepy.
Wow! Lots of opinions here! So I think I'll give mine! 
first off I'm new to vaping, so you can skip this reply if you feel my opinion is not important. (I don't mind) I researched APV's for about 3 weeks, reading forums, checking prices all over the net, watching grimmgreen, Phil Busardo, and vapingwithtwisted420 reviews before I pulled the trigger on my new PV. I went to 3 B&M's and got my hands on devices like the VAMO, svd, lavatube 2, provari, and the eVic to feel durability and test ease of function. I was only able to vape an SVD and eVic that two of my friends had. From all my research I decided to go for the itaste SVD, it vaped way better than the eVic, more taste and TH. (same settings and juice) the Svd felt sturdier than the LV2 and the VAMO and was easier to navigate and work the functions than the provari.
I think the original post was something like, is it worth spending money on the provari or should I get an SVD that's cheaper. (hard to remember, been reading this thread for what seems like hours lol)!
That all being said, ya, from all the research I've done, the provari is a fantastic PV that can last u a long time, therefore worth the money. But.... For me, new to vaping, the deal on the SVD kit was to unbelievable to pass up. Like I said before, I got a chance to vape it, I couldn't believe how much cheaper it was than a lot of other PV's!
So I went with the SVD, no regrets, no buyers remorse, no feelings of dismay thinking I should have spent the extra 100 to get the provari. I even got my buddy, who has vape an eVic for six months, to order and switch to an SVD.
I think I'm off topic here..... SVD vs Provari.... For someone new to vaping... SVD all the way!
first off I'm new to vaping, so you can skip this reply if you feel my opinion is not important. (I don't mind) I researched APV's for about 3 weeks, reading forums, checking prices all over the net, watching grimmgreen, Phil Busardo, and vapingwithtwisted420 reviews before I pulled the trigger on my new PV. I went to 3 B&M's and got my hands on devices like the VAMO, svd, lavatube 2, provari, and the eVic to feel durability and test ease of function. I was only able to vape an SVD and eVic that two of my friends had. From all my research I decided to go for the itaste SVD, it vaped way better than the eVic, more taste and TH. (same settings and juice) the Svd felt sturdier than the LV2 and the VAMO and was easier to navigate and work the functions than the provari. I think the original post was something like, is it worth spending money on the provari or should I get an SVD that's cheaper. (hard to remember, been reading this thread for what seems like hours lol)!
That all being said, ya, from all the research I've done, the provari is a fantastic PV that can last u a long time, therefore worth the money. But.... For me, new to vaping, the deal on the SVD kit was to unbelievable to pass up. Like I said before, I got a chance to vape it, I couldn't believe how much cheaper it was than a lot of other PV's!
So I went with the SVD, no regrets, no buyers remorse, no feelings of dismay thinking I should have spent the extra 100 to get the provari. I even got my buddy, who has vape an eVic for six months, to order and switch to an SVD.
I think I'm off topic here..... SVD vs Provari.... For someone new to vaping... SVD all the way!
Wow! Lots of opinions here! So I think I'll give mine!
I think the original post was something like, is it worth spending money on the provari or should I get an SVD that's cheaper. (hard to remember, been reading this thread for what seems like hours lol)!
That all being said, ya, from all the research I've done, the provari is a fantastic PV that can last u a long time, therefore worth the money. But.... For me, new to vaping, the deal on the SVD kit was to unbelievable to pass up. Like I said before, I got a chance to vape it, I couldn't believe how much cheaper it was than a lot of other PV's!
So I went with the SVD, no regrets, no buyers remorse, no feelings of dismay thinking I should have spent the extra 100 to get the provari. I even got my buddy, who has vape an eVic for six months, to order and switch to an SVD.
I think I'm off topic here..... SVD vs Provari.... For someone new to vaping... SVD all the way!
Congrats on finding a great device !
The SVD is a fine device. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I'd recommend though, as someone earlier did, that you swap out the batteries at 3.7v. I find, at least with my 1.6 cartos, that the performance does degrade some after that.
That's really the biggest difference I can find between it and Provari. Of course, it's way to early to speak to the longevity factor. While my Provaris are ticking along wonderfully after 18 months, only time will tell us how the SVD will hold up in comparison. It seems to be fairly well built so it too may last.
Although the fact that my firing pin has already been pushed in, after a very short time, makes me think that it might not hold up quite as well as the much-derided, old technology, rotary-phone-compared Provari (smh).
That's really the biggest difference I can find between it and Provari. Of course, it's way to early to speak to the longevity factor. While my Provaris are ticking along wonderfully after 18 months, only time will tell us how the SVD will hold up in comparison. It seems to be fairly well built so it too may last.
Although the fact that my firing pin has already been pushed in, after a very short time, makes me think that it might not hold up quite as well as the much-derided, old technology, rotary-phone-compared Provari (smh).
If it's anything like my lavatube/lambo (2 have intermittently worked since new), my vamo (DOA basically), or my Gripper (bring ducktape), then it wont be long.
I've taken the chance on several of these cheapos but in the end have ordered a Provari anyway.
If you want a PV that's going to be working in a years time with a nice flat output, buy a Provari.
If you want a PV that's going to be in the trash and forgotten about in six months, buy an SVD or any of the other Chinese mods, they're all using the same algorithm or chipset so they're effectively the same mod.
33.3hz is a nasty, unrefined vape and Chinese mods are disposable.
If you want a PV that's going to be in the trash and forgotten about in six months, buy an SVD or any of the other Chinese mods, they're all using the same algorithm or chipset so they're effectively the same mod.
33.3hz is a nasty, unrefined vape and Chinese mods are disposable.
Forgot which forum he was at.
Incidentally, VW is hardly more precise with most devices that have it - with the incremental jumps it's higher or lower than the results you get with VV.
My Provari has VW - I just need my brain to use it.
The DNA 20 may be great for sub ohm but it's lousy for anyone who wants to vape at less than relatively high voltages, therefore it's not as flexible as the likes of the Provari.
Here's a nice non-biased review of the DNA 20;
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My little box mod has variable power too. It's called changing to an atty with a different resistance.
I agree with everything Dirk and TO said. The SVD is a good mod - I like it. But not nearly as much as a Provari. And the DNA20's are good too, but it's not like they're cooking me breakfast.
I've said it before and I'll say it again now. I change VW no less often than I change VV. Sometimes between vapes, because I feel like something a little different. "Set it and forget it" was a pretty smart marketing ploy for the Kick, since it really wasn't conducive to switching settings. But, in reality, it was just that - a ploy.
Flame away, flamers. I've got better things to worry about today.
I've said it before and I'll say it again now. I change VW no less often than I change VV. Sometimes between vapes, because I feel like something a little different. "Set it and forget it" was a pretty smart marketing ploy for the Kick, since it really wasn't conducive to switching settings. But, in reality, it was just that - a ploy.
Flame away, flamers. I've got better things to worry about today.
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