iTaste vv V3 Battery Reading Question

[jrgleason2003]

If you have an iTaste, can someone explain the battery reading to me? I understand when it shows red, there is less than 3.6 (volts?) left on the battery. Why do they tell you to recharge when its red when there is so much life left on it? I would assume you could take it down to 0 if you wanted. If I can't bring it to 0, why not? Regardless, I still love this thing and it took me about 10 hours of vape time (300 or so puff according to my indicator) and only an hour or two to regard to 4.2.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

The battery will only last a certain number of charge cycles, and the lower you drain the battery, the fewer the recharge cycles. Solve this by having a backup and using these in rotation. That way, you get longer vape times and no reduction to batter life. The come in four colors. Go for it!

 

[jrgleason2003]

The battery will only last a certain number of charge cycles, and the lower you drain the battery, the fewer the recharge cycles. Solve this by having a backup and using these in rotation. That way, you get longer vape times and no reduction to batter life. The come in four colors. Go for it!

So if I charge it when it hits 3.6 I'll be better off than say letting it go until 2.6 or 1.6?

 

[Glen Snyder]

So if I charge it when it hits 3.6 I'll be better off than say letting it go until 2.6 or 1.6?

I don't own an SVD, but it's highly unlikely it will fire below 3.2 volts or somewhere close. You certainly wouldn't want to run a battery down to no charge. That would affect the life of the cell I'm sure.


EDIT: Second time today I didn't pay close enough attention. I see my error assuming you had an SVD. Not any difference in my answer though with the V3. Same principle applies.

Here's a review of the iTaste V3 from Amanda. I haven't watched this one but she generally covers all aspects in her product reviews. And she looks GREAT doing it

 

[jcube69]

So if I charge it when it hits 3.6 I'll be better off than say letting it go until 2.6 or 1.6?

the i taste has an over discharge feature which will "shut the device off" once it reaches that set voltage (not sure what it is)

funny really old nick/cadmium batteries suffered from recharging them too soon you were suppose to discharge them XD

now we have amazing Li based batteries and the effects swapped =p

anyways you shouldn't charge it all the time that kills battery lifetime(e.g. you now get 4 hours instead of 6 from full charge--charge cycles for those are 250-300?) i'd say when it hits red charge it. its not something to worry about it even if you abused and had to buy a new one next year that equates to ~5 a month?

but if you want to keep it in pristine condition buy a second 2 swap or buy the MVP its the boxy looking one on the itase website way bigger battery and would be great to use at home save the vv3 for on the go usage ^.^

 

[jrgleason2003]

the i taste has an over discharge feature which will "shut the device off" once it reaches that set voltage (not sure what it is)

funny really old nick/cadmium batteries suffered from recharging them too soon you were suppose to discharge them XD

now we have amazing Li based batteries and the effects swapped =p

anyways you shouldn't charge it all the time that kills battery lifetime(e.g. you now get 4 hours instead of 6 from full charge--charge cycles for those are 250-300?) i'd say when it hits red charge it. its not something to worry about it even if you abused and had to buy a new one next year that equates to ~5 a month?

but if you want to keep it in pristine condition buy a second 2 swap or buy the MVP its the boxy looking one on the itase website way bigger battery and would be great to use at home save the vv3 for on the go usage ^.^

Good deal, I risk divorce if I keep spending money on this stuff! So I'll have to wait, unless there is a place I can buy just the battery without the charger since I already have one...

 

[bikerbeagle]

Technically, these batteries (li-ion) are in a "drained" state when it drops below its rated voltage (3.7v in this case) and it's fairly common practice not to allow it to stay there for very long to improve the life of your battery due to the chemistry of the battery itself. The bottom limit on these batteries is 2.5v - this is when they are considered "completely drained", but none of the protected mods (that I am aware of) will fire below 3.2v.

These aren't your grandpa's batteries. A lot has changed since the old days where it was suggested you run a battery completely down, then fully recharge it to avoid 'memory' charging (over time it taking less and less of a charge).

 

[sailense]

In addition, very few chargers will recharge a Li-ion battery once it gets below it's lower limit and even then it's not something you should do unless you're familiar with the technology.

 

[sailense]

To give you something practical you can use. A 3.7v battery is fully charged at 4.1v. As soon as you put a load on it, the voltage quickly drops to 3.7-3.8v and that's where it stays for most of the practical life of the charge. Once it hits 3.6v and below, it drops quickly again to around 3.2-3.3v and that's the cutoff for most batteries.

So, a useful way to think of the range is:
3.8-4.1v = 50% to 100%
3.7v = 50%
3.6v and below = 10%, time to recharge

 

[kushka]

I question much of the advice people here give about these batteries and how there is a "limited amount of charge" and the charge times will be reduced if you don't drain the battery, and atomizer limits etc.

The reason is though I am politically radical, in personal habits I am extremely conservative. I find something I like and stick to it. I am also handicapped with limited mobility and spend most of my home and work time in front of a computer.

Thus, on 9/19/2010 I bought a green eGo 650mAh Pass-Through battery from Liberty Flights. And up until 3 months ago when I bought a Itaste vv it was my primary battery. Since I got my Itaste I have left my ego at work, where it is still the only battery I use there, (even though now it is chrome, as all the green wore away a long time ago). At least 70% of that time I have kept it plugged in, as it is my habit to use it as a passthrough when in front of a computer, and I always left it plugged in at night . Thus it has well beyond the 300 change limit that so many have stated, it has probably had more then 1000 charges. Yet, I had it off the charger vaping it for 9 hours on Monday and it held the charge like new.

I have also, for the last couple of years, used exclusively 1.5ohm dual coil cartomizers with it (I don't change my vaping methods easily), even though many people say don't use a < 2ohm devise with an ego battery, as it will shorten it's life span.

(i also havn't changed my e-liquid in 3 years, but that's another story).

 

[jrgleason2003]

I question much of the advice people here give about these batteries and how there is a "limited amount of charge" and the charge times will be reduced if you don't drain the battery, and atomizer limits etc.

The reason is though I am politically radical, in personal habits I am extremely conservative. I find something I like and stick to it. I am also handicapped with limited mobility and spend most of my home and work time in front of a computer.

Thus, on 9/19/2010 I bought a green eGo 650mAh Pass-Through battery from Liberty Flights. And up until 3 months ago when I bought a Itaste vv it was my primary battery. Since I got my Itaste I have left my ego at work, where it is still the only battery I use there, (even though now it is chrome, as all the green wore away a long time ago). At least 70% of that time I have kept it plugged in, as it is my habit to use it as a passthrough when in front of a computer, and I always left it plugged in at night . Thus it has well beyond the 300 change limit that so many have stated, it has probably had more then 1000 charges. Yet, I had it off the charger vaping it for 9 hours on Monday and it held the charge like new.

I have also, for the last couple of years, used exclusively 1.5ohm dual coil cartomizers with it (I don't change my vaping methods easily), even though many people say don't use a < 2ohm devise with an ego battery, as it will shorten it's life span.

(i also havn't changed my e-liquid in 3 years, but that's another story).

So you suggest to do passthrough when possible? That won't be a problem since I work from home from my PC. From what I've read, a constant charge(charging) isn't good for the battery though? Am I wrong in this assumption? I just dont want to ruin the battery I literally overpaid for

 

[jrgleason2003]

I don't own an SVD, but it's highly unlikely it will fire below 3.2 volts or somewhere close. You certainly wouldn't want to run a battery down to no charge. That would affect the life of the cell I'm sure.


EDIT: Second time today I didn't pay close enough attention. I see my error assuming you had an SVD. Not any difference in my answer though with the V3. Same principle applies.

Here's a review of the iTaste V3 from Amanda. I haven't watched this one but she generally covers all aspects in her product reviews. And she looks GREAT doing it

I've seen this review before...she is really easy on the eye's. God bless genetics

 

[jrgleason2003]

Last question...Will using the iTaste on passthrough (when it gets low and I'm charging) actually hurt the battery since I'll be "draining and reflling" the battery with each puff I take while on passthrough?

 

[Hoggy]

Last question...Will using the iTaste on passthrough (when it gets low and I'm charging) actually hurt the battery since I'll be "draining and reflling" the battery with each puff I take while on passthrough?

That's what I'd like to know, too..

I notice when the iTaste has finished charging, and I use it as a passthrough - the charging indication will go on for afterwards. I don't know enough about it's [Li-Po?] battery to know if that would be bad for it. Same goes for using as a passthrough WHILE charging from a lower state.
Does anybody know what the effect that would have?

 

[kushka]

That's what I'd like to know, too..

I notice when the iTaste has finished charging, and I use it as a passthrough - the charging indication will go on for afterwards. I don't know enough about it's [Li-Po?] battery to know if that would be bad for it. Same goes for using as a passthrough WHILE charging from a lower state.
Does anybody know what the effect that would have?

I don't think it will hurt it any - vaping on a passthrough. The reason is strictly anecdotal. I have an 650 mah ego passthrough battery that will not die. I bought it in September of 2010 from Liberty Flights, back when the 650mah ego passthrough just came out. Because I work as systems analyst, and am handicapped with limited mobility, and admittedly addicted to my computers, I am on or near a computer most of the day, and when I am my ego is, at least 50% of the time plugged in being used as a passthrough. I was my primary PV untill I bought my Itaste vv almost 2 months ago. That ego still works, and still hold a charge. All of it's paint has worn off a long time ago, and of course it is the old model, it does't even have 5 click cut off. Somes say these batteries can only be charged 300 times, this ego has been charged at least 4 times that and is still working. So, I am not at all hesitant of using my Itaste the same way.