Its time, Mod, VV, ugh

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Been using 650mah pass throughs and 1000mah 510 batteries.

Thinking maybe its time to move into something more powerful or something to feed my addiction. I have researched and tried just about every delivery method, Atties, carts, tanks, clearos, etc.. and found my favorite methods, but really know little about the mods themselves.

One thing that maybe someone can help me with, is on this forum specifically, there is a section for Mods, and a section for Variable Voltage Devices.

From what i can tell, Mods are boxes, or or tubes with seperate batteries that you can interchange if needed, but also feed in various different ways, ie bottom feeder, maybe higher voltages and what not to im guessing. Is there anything else specific to these?

VVs are just that, but are they considered mods with vv? or are there mods with vv? Lol.. Going from regular 510 batteries, anyone have a recommendation as to vv or mod, and what?
 

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I think mods are really anything that uses a separate battery. personally I like the adaptability of a VV. cartos are not created equal and neither is ejuice. so to be able to adjust to taste, no matter what top half you are using is what is key. as an example if I get a light juice in my tank using a 510 with low resistance carto. it works ok. put some dark juice, like some mint chocolate chip in there, and you will have a gurgle monster. and this is with an ego battery of course. but with a VV turn up the power and let it burn.
 

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I moved up the vaping chain fairly quickly, I started on an eGo-T kit and it worked fairly well, I upgraded to a Lavatube soon there after and fell in love with VV, being able to adjust your voltage to your specific juice and atty/tank/ce2/clearo whatever.

VV's are mods, the term VV just stands for Variable Voltage, meaning there is a way to increase or decrease the voltage output of the device. Mod is just a term for a box or tube with a battery and a e-cig connection (808/501/901 etc).

I just recently received my Provari and this thing is amazing. I would recommend it above all else.

If you can afford it and you know vaping is something you are going to stick with I would suggest a Provari. If that is out of your price range then something like a Buzz Pro, if that is still to expensive then a Lavatube.

Battery life on any of those devices will blow your little 510 batts out of the water, they are also quality built units (aside from the Lavatube which I still believe feels cheap) and all have good warranties (for the Lavatube it depends on where you buy it, but you can find 1yr warranties).

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If you want warmer vapor, better consistency, better throat hit and less costly batteries, then I would look at a good 5 volt or variable volt or better yet, variable watt model PV. I would not go with a lavatube due to the limitations on what you can vape on it. I would look at the 5 volt GLV2, the EVO, the Provari, BuzzPro or the best of them all (IMO), the power regulated, variable watt Darwin.
 

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Really don't just jump off into mods. There's no point in spending money on trinkets or mods that won't improve things where you need improvement. All you've really told us is what kind of batteries you've used. What have you put on those batteries what has worked for you, what hasn't. Have you tried dripping? If you haven't, I really recommend you do before you jump off into mods because many of them have juice delivery systems. Have you tried different resistance cartos or attys? That will provide some clue about whether you'll like VV. Do you like what you're using but, want more battery life? Mods can provide that.

Pretty soon the Provari and Reo fanboys are going to be all over this thread. Those are great mods, I own one of them but, they serve different purposes. Tell us what you are looking to improve and we can save you time and money.
 

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My recommendation with be the Satin Provari v2 + 18650 Extender Cap + 2 AW IMR 18650 Batteries + Pila Charger + Boge 3.0 Cartomizers (for your daily vape) + HH.357 3.0 Ohm 510 atomizer (for trying new flavors)

A tank (J-Tank, M1A1, Big Daddy,etc) and a carto punch tool (COV makes a really good tool for $40) would also make you happy.

Seriously, you'll love this setup.

What's more, if you don't love it, you can sell most of this stuff for close to what you paid for it on the classifieds.
 
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I love the lavatube, but you really have to know what's right to use with it and what's not. If you absolutely love dual coils, then it's definitely not for you. It won't push past 3.3 volts with dual coils, and it's a crap vape. But 3 ohm cartos in a tank on the lavatube, it's pure bliss. Mods haven't eliminated the ego outright for me, I still use all of my ego batteries every day, but they're definitely more reliable, badass, and overall better than the standard batteries. I'd say grab yourself a low cost tube or box mod and see how you like the whole idea.
 

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I agree, Provari or Buzz pro! They both seem like the top dogs here in regards to VV mods.. That's it, that is the difference, you have either mods or vv mods!

bingo :)

I moved up the vaping chain fairly quickly, I started on an eGo-T kit and it worked fairly well, I upgraded to a Lavatube soon there after and fell in love with VV, being able to adjust your voltage to your specific juice and atty/tank/ce2/clearo whatever.

VV's are mods, the term VV just stands for Variable Voltage, meaning there is a way to increase or decrease the voltage output of the device. Mod is just a term for a box or tube with a battery and a e-cig connection (808/501/901 etc).

I just recently received my Provari and this thing is amazing. I would recommend it above all else.

If you can afford it and you know vaping is something you are going to stick with I would suggest a Provari. If that is out of your price range then something like a Buzz Pro, if that is still to expensive then a Lavatube.

Battery life on any of those devices will blow your little 510 batts out of the water, they are also quality built units (aside from the Lavatube which I still believe feels cheap) and all have good warranties (for the Lavatube it depends on where you buy it, but you can find 1yr warranties).

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    There is an overwhelming abundance of choices, and there is nothing wrong with most of them. Think about all the fun you get to have finding the right one(s) for you.
    My personal opinion is that the best mod out there is several mods. I also don't think of them as being better or worse than each others, they are just different.
    There are times I want a big bat mod, there are times I want a small bat mod. There are even times I want no bat at all. Sometimes I want the convenience of VV/VW, and sometimes I want the simplicity of an all mechanical mod.
    Sometimes I want a powerful mod, and sometimes I want a softer hit. There is a time and place for all of them.

    So to answer your question, is there a mod out there that can do everything ......... NO
     
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    I kind of agree with tj in that there is no perfect mod. Sometimes I use my egos, sometimes my lavatube with single coils and sometimes I use the Provari. I even use some of the 3.7 and 5.0 box mods depending on what batteries I have charged, where I am going and what mood I am in. I got the box mods through the classifieds pretty cheap. I also put different juices in different mods to just see what they do. I even go from tank to carto to drip with all of the above depending upon what I think I will like. It seems everything changes and fast in the vaping world. I suggest accumulating an assortment and trying some out. My only real regret is buying the lavatube before getting the Provari. Should have just jumped straight to the Provari and skipped the others. Try as many as you can and settle with what you like. The hardware is more fun to play with but the juice is where I am lost on finding the "perfect" juice. Again, it probably doesn't exist either.
     

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    Really don't just jump off into mods. There's no point in spending money on trinkets or mods that won't improve things where you need improvement. All you've really told us is what kind of batteries you've used. What have you put on those batteries what has worked for you, what hasn't. Have you tried dripping? If you haven't, I really recommend you do before you jump off into mods because many of them have juice delivery systems. Have you tried different resistance cartos or attys? That will provide some clue about whether you'll like VV. Do you like what you're using but, want more battery life? Mods can provide that.

    Pretty soon the Provari and Reo fanboys are going to be all over this thread. Those are great mods, I own one of them but, they serve different purposes. Tell us what you are looking to improve and we can save you time and money.

    Actually, i did in my post mention that i have tried various delivery methods. I drip basically only for flavor testing or if im sitting at my desk, but even then im more likely to screw on a clearo or carto. As far as i know, i have tried every delivery method, or variation of each, tank, clears, ce2, poly, carts, tankos, etc...

    Its no secret that the Provari is a highly liked device, maybe i should just grab one of those.
     

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    If you already have Ego batteries I would suggest the Ego Booster. It's an adapter that screws on to your ego batts and turns them into full-fledged VV devices. It's an simple way to try out VV, since it's just one adapter vs. a new system/batteries/chargers/adapters, etc.

    Hrmm.. never heard of or seen that before. Interesting. Thanks.
     

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    Actually, i did in my post mention that i have tried various delivery methods. I drip basically only for flavor testing or if im sitting at my desk, but even then im more likely to screw on a clearo or carto. As far as i know, i have tried every delivery method, or variation of each, tank, clears, ce2, poly, carts, tankos, etc...

    Its no secret that the Provari is a highly liked device, maybe i should just grab one of those.

    I think you missed my point. When I said juice delivery methods, I was talking about something like a bottom feeder which will allow you to use an atomizer and feed it from a bottle. If you find dripping to be a better experience than other methods but, don't like the hassle, that could be for you.

    As far as the provari goes, it's a good device but, I think the Buzz Pro is a better value. Here's a video that says the same thing:



    The point I was making is that you'll deal a lot better getting the mod you want, if you have a goal in mind. What aspect of vaping are you trying to improve with the mod?
     

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    I think you missed my point. When I said juice delivery methods, I was talking about something like a bottom feeder which will allow you to use an atomizer and feed it from a bottle. If you find dripping to be a better experience than other methods but, don't like the hassle, that could be for you.

    As far as the provari goes, it's a good device but, I think the Buzz Pro is a better value. Here's a video that says the same thing:



    The point I was making is that you'll deal a lot better getting the mod you want, if you have a goal in mind. What aspect of vaping are you trying to improve with the mod?

    I see.

    I do like dripping, but i dont like the "end" hit, or the obvious, continuing to drip when im not at my desk.

    Im pretty happy using Volcanos Mega Clearomizers, hands down the best method for me. I use carts as well, but some of my juices dont seem to agree with them that well, or the flavors seem to get so altered it doesnt pay off to use that juice in them.

    My main reason for asking about mods/vvs was for a better hit. Is there a better hit than what im getting, more flavor, more vapor obviously would create more flavor just in terms of volume one would think. So all in all thats it. Your suggestion of a bottom fed attie, i had already read about, and after your suggestion, i might have to give that a shot.
     

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    I see.

    I do like dripping, but i dont like the "end" hit, or the obvious, continuing to drip when im not at my desk.

    Im pretty happy using Volcanos Mega Clearomizers, hands down the best method for me. I use carts as well, but some of my juices dont seem to agree with them that well, or the flavors seem to get so altered it doesnt pay off to use that juice in them.

    My main reason for asking about mods/vvs was for a better hit. Is there a better hit than what im getting, more flavor, more vapor obviously would create more flavor just in terms of volume one would think. So all in all thats it. Your suggestion of a bottom fed attie, i had already read about, and after your suggestion, i might have to give that a shot.

    If you're handy with a soldering iron, it's not that hard to build a bottom feeder. Here's a thread that explains how. If you plan to do it, read well into the thread. There are some issues with the original design. If you go far enough, you'll find pics of my very first very sloppy (I got better.) mod build. If you're not handy with a soldering iron, Old Goat makes a fairly inexpensive one as well. Neither one of those is going to last forever. The Reo is very popular and probably will. Those show up in classifieds now and then. For more ideas, there's a forum on here devoted to feeder type mods.

    Of course there's also a forum devoted to VV mod discussions too. If you've tried lower resistance cartos etc., a VV will deliver a similar experience but, more tunable. One thing that everyone that hasn't used one thinks is cool is a built in voltmeter. However, if you use a knob to turn it up and down, that's a toy. You really just want it a little hotter or a little cooler. On mods like the lavatube or provari that have up and down buttons, you really need it so you know where you are. If you have a knob, the position ofthe knob tells you.
     
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