I've notice lately an increasing amount of "hostile" posts

[Oberon75]

I used to argue with the rude posters for days. Now I just ignore it.

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[SupplyDaddy]

I have written many scalding replies to what I perceived as trolls and folks who simply don't want to read the forums. It gets aggravating to answer the same questions over and over again when the answers are already here.

Luckily, I delete those replies (normally) before I can post them. Seems to help me a little at least.

 

[LobsterGoD]

i have yet to run into or notice a rude/argumentative poster, maybe i'm just lucky. Most newbie threads i've seen have all had replies along the lines of "there's no dumb questions here, dont worry we were all noobs once." Then again i only flip through a few of the newest threads before moving on.

 

[yuseffuhler]

There's a thread that comes to mind when thinking about people being mean to new posters. Dude was making some inflammatory comments about a vendor (negative review in the new members section) and then posted email screenshots, kind of no nos here. He was told that it was against the rules several times, ignored it, got defensive, thread got deleted. Almost everyone was very polite about it, but it was very irritating to have someone accuse you of being mean when you just don't agree with them. It'll happen every once in a while, but I don't see it very often at all.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I have written many scalding replies to what I perceived as trolls and folks who simply don't want to read the forums. It gets aggravating to answer the same questions over and over again when the answers are already here.

Luckily, I delete those replies (normally) before I can post them. Seems to help me a little at least.

I know when I got here, I found this place totally overwhelming. Mostly I just read a lot for a while. But I know what you're saying.

 

[beckdg]

I would say that I have seen a slow increase in "hostility" over the years.

But I am not sure if it is in line with the growth of the forum, or becoming exponentially worse.
And also, you have to consider that the demographic of the forum is slowly shifting as well.

It's a bit complicated...

Not me.

I've just seen what I see in every good forum.

As it grows, the insults become less koy, clever and ambiguous.

Not necessarily more, more often or a higher percentage.

A year ago it was 3 prothingy threads with dozens to hundreds of pages of nothing but.

Accompanied by the same for clone/authentic.

And a hit on the Reonauts in every other thread outside the reosmods subforum.

Tapatyped

 

[Bootiewootsy]

I find people here are very friendly and eager to help any new person with their questions. I think I know what post you are referring to. I must admit I was quite upset with the op as he / she had posted before and I regarded them as a government troll. I usually try to be very friendly and treat people as I would like to be treated. I think the regulation statement was the breaking point with me as I know how hard everyone is trying to prevent the antz from telling us what we can or can't do regarding our own lives. I am sorry if I over stepped one of the rules. I am not a youngster, but a 75 year old lady that stopped smoking the day I started vapping. I have been trying to get my husband to quit and I am very nervous as he has cancer and is about to start chemo and radiation. Next time I will stop and reread my post before submitting it..

 

[beckdg]

Some are more direct, to the point and straight-forward, and to some that can come across as brash or insensitive. Some people are simply brutally honest about their opinions (tough love) and that can be construed by some as rude also.

It's also tough many times to gauge someone's attitude based on what they type. Without being able to hear someone's tone, inflections, etc it can come across as a bit rude, when that was not the person's intent.

I know when I first came to this forum 9 months ago, there were some posters that I flat out did not like because of how they responded in many threads. It took me a bit, but then I realized that for most of them, it was just their communication style.

It is very obvious that we have met.

I apologize.

For the past and the future.

For how I am perceived is not usually my intent.

That's twice today. I've filled my yearly quota.

Carry on. (Wildly)

Tapatyped

 

[WillyZee]

I think most of these threads that get a few snarky replies (sorry, I can't describe them as hostile) ... they do appear to be somewhat trollish ... I see it as, what goes around comes around.

The good far outweighs the bad here on ECF ... IMO, rude or snarky posts are dealt with fairly.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Quite frankly, the owners/administration of this forum are very open minded in that they do not delete or censor opinions, even if those opinions are not shared by said owners/administration.

It seems that some of the individual guests are the ones who want to "disallow" contentious topics from being aired, or respond to others in a less than polite manner. Every now and again, a moderator will pop into a contentious, passionate topic to remind participants of the rules. When topic gets totally out of hand (i.e., there is too much rule breaking going on, and it is a full time job for a moderator to properly administer the topic) then the topic is closed.

In other words, the ability to keep discussions open and alive, is pretty much based on the behavior of the participants......not what they have to say or their opinions.

I think it's a great model!

While I agree 100% this is a private site, and we are all guests in someone else's house who should behave accordingly.
Good manners and what not.
And I'm all good with that.

However, it's actually against the ECF rules to openly discuss a moderator, or their actions, so no, questioning administrations opinion can get you a ban.

So no, they actually aren't very open minded on those topics and yes you can be censored.
I'm not complaining ( don't ban me) just pointing out some facts.
The truth is always best.

In the end, their house their rules.
I'm good with that.

 

[freeall]

Vaping as a whole has taken on a life of its own. With the amount of growth this vaping stuff has turned into, the peanut gallery only gets bigger, which in turn, brings out the naysayers and trolls. And like someone else mentioned, the demographic has also changed.

This isn't 2009 anymore. Everyone and their dog is on the vape train nowadays.

It is what it is.

 

[Azarias]

Honestly.

Back when vaping became more than just a replacement for smoking and turned into a hobby for me I joined forums, FB groups and $#!^.
I left ALL of them. Back in the days because that "clone vs. authentic war" really got out of control. Vapers were insulted, posted threats etc. It was horrible.
After one year I rejoined one forum. Wanted to give it a shot. Didn't take long until I realized the "war" was over but a lot of the guys were just plain ........ .
I had problems with my Lemo 2. Didn't take long until the first told me to stop vaping. The next one told me I'm too stupid to vape because I asked for help instead of figuring out by myself. And so on .....
And that was just what happened to me in one of my first threads. A lot of people were really hostile (esp. to newbies) and insulted.

Compared to behavior I'm used to in vaping forums and groups the ECF is a peaceful piece of paradise. I really love it here.

 

[lovemytank]

Thank you all for your time invested in this amazing site! I just found this, my home a few weeks ago and have lost at least one meal per day due to my new ECF hobby. Already lost more weight then when smoking. This is kewl! Now back to my lemon strawberry cupcake and my mission to find some new friends.

 

[NOVA jon]

I don't think it is this forum or internet in particular, because even in face-to-face "real life", if you have 10 people in a group, chances are good you will have at least one jerk in the bunch.

Of course, being anonymous behind a keyboard can have an effect also.

With that being said, please remember that everyone has different communication styles as well. Some are more direct, to the point and straight-forward, and to some that can come across as brash or insensitive. Some people are simply brutally honest about their opinions (tough love) and that can be construed by some as rude also.

It's also tough many times to gauge someone's attitude based on what they type. Without being able to hear someone's tone, inflections, etc it can come across as a bit rude, when that was not the person's intent.

I know when I first came to this forum 9 months ago, there were some posters that I flat out did not like because of how they responded in many threads. It took me a bit, but then I realized that for most of them, it was just their communication style.

I usually take the time to re read some posts to make sure I have done my best to interpret what is actually trying to be conveyed. Sometimes it's tough!

I also think that on few occasions I've seen threads go south, the members that have started threads, ask specific questions and ask for opinions and then have the stones to get argumentative! That is unacceptable. I have no problem with with other members then giving a little guff back in return!!

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I usually take the time to re read some posts to make sure I have done my best to interpret what is actually trying to be conveyed. Sometimes it's tough!

I also think that on few occasions I've seen threads go south, the members that have started threads, ask specific questions and ask for opinions and then have the stones to get argumentative! That is unacceptable. I have no problem with with other members then giving a little guff back in return!!

It's because of THE MASSSSSSSESSSSS of people vaping.

 

[NOVA jon]

It's because of THE MASSSSSSSESSSSS of people vaping.

We speak the same language good sir!!

 

[BackDoc]

Political Correctness has made people too thin skinned , I disagree with you DrJ...........its a moderated forum,and if someone gets out of hand the moderators shut it down in a timely manner .

 

[six]

However, all this being said I've started to notice an increasing amount of posts and replies by some members that I perceive as hostile or just down right mean.

See my signature. - I have on occasion been told that my choice of verbiage can be interpreted as aloof and even possibly hostile. If one reads me in monotone, my words might be better described as "deliberate" and maybe even "thoughtful".

Written word is subject to the interpretation of the mind of the reader. My advice to forum readers who express sensitivity is that they try to read in monotone.

Or maybe try to imagine everything you read in the voice of Stephen Hawking or something...

 

[Robino1]

See my signature. - I have on occasion been told that my choice of verbiage can be interpreted as aloof and even possibly hostile. If one reads me in monotone, my words might be better described as "deliberate" and maybe even "thoughtful".

Written word is subject to the interpretation of the mind of the reader. My advice to forum readers who express sensitivity is that they try to read in monotone.

Or maybe try to imagine everything you read in the voice of Stephen Hawking or something...

Just read this in monotone. That's hard to do!

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Just read this in monotone. That's hard to do!

It's not too bad if you use your robot voice.