JAC Vapour Series-B DNA 75w

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Katdarling

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Yeah in power mode I feel like a champ...in TC more like a loser :cry:
Confusing bit is, for a while it worked lovely...then it changed its mind. Starting to wonder if I perhaps have female mods...:ohmy:

LOL!!!!! Ouch, but LMAO!!!
 
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Yeah me to darling Kat. Love it in power mode. Just want to give TC a good go...you know how it is...;)
Well if all three Jacs have a problem with the same coil...it must be the build...?
I took real good care to build a good one though..:cool:
 
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Whew! Just completed my catching up with this thread marathon... been at it since receiving my Jackie on Christmas Day!:laugh: I was so enthused and love struck with the Jac that I wanted to read every post! ;)

Hola everyone, I am finally here and so happy to be here :D Like our OP, the fabulous Katdarling, I am a power user and can't help with TC issues... seeing all the variables that go into TC vaping makes my head spin :ohmy::laugh:
Kudos to all of you who give it a whirl :thumb:

@NotSoMini - My Jackie is nicked up pretty well, but that was my expectation from Jump. I'm going to let this one ride out, similar to my 5+ year old black Provi V2 ("Distressed", lol), then cover it with a glittery thing that will surely bring out my feminine side. :lol:

There is a 2nd though, which is still sitting in its absolutely beautiful box. That one will get a clear wrap before I even put a battery into it. I loved @ENAUD 's "tool not a jewel" comment, and almost all of my mods show wear. I kinda like it (nicks & scratches), but I'll keep Jackie II pristine, for as long as I'm able to do so.

Strokes & folks. :)

Hola DPL :), Breaks my heart to think I may have to wrap Jackie down the line cuz I just love love LOVE the feel of the finish! I will miss feeling its satiny softness very much... it will be like losing my favorite plushy blankey:cry:

If you're vaping, I'd say your about 95% safer. ;)

Ho Ho Ho.



Delightful, you, and gorgeous Santa gift!!! Congrats, honey pie. You KNOW I'm a huge fan of this amazing device. Great pic, too!!!!

I've been NICE? OH NO! I best be working on my NAUGHTY a bit more, eh?

:D

You, Katdarlingness, are the nicest naughty person I know! :laugh::thumbs::wub:
 

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What atty are you using and is the ohm reading staying stable?
Got it in the Hussar. Yeah the resistance is rock solid.
Something is drastically wrong. After my last post it vaped good without any problems in TC for a good while.
Just now when I took it up again its back to the same problem. The power (watts) drops to 3.0 and you all know what that feels like....:unsure:
Ah well...back to power.
 

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I'm not much inclined to wrestle with my vape, particularly since it's been working so well for me, for so long. Happy, I.

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Occam's Razor.
 

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    Whew! Just completed my catching up with this thread marathon... been at it since receiving my Jackie on Christmas Day!:laugh: I was so enthused and love struck with the Jac that I wanted to read every post! ;)

    Well shucks, you was making me feel special when I came on and saw I had so many alerts due to all the likes you was giving me (thank you btw) It was good while it lasted :lol:

    Congrats on your new Jac :)
     

    Nailz

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    Got it in the Hussar. Yeah the resistance is rock solid.
    Something is drastically wrong. After my last post it vaped good without any problems in TC for a good while.
    Just now when I took it up again its back to the same problem. The power (watts) drops to 3.0 and you all know what that feels like....:unsure:
    Ah well...back to power.

    I've tried TC a few times, and always the same results, vapes good for a while and then when don't vape for a while and go back to it, it sucks, power won't go up and just get a real light vape from it, I've given up trying TC, watts work fine anyway :)
     

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    I'd just like to say that I vape TC all day, every day.
    After experimenting with various metals, I settled on SS430. I found that there are MANY different alloys (blends) called SS316(L) and so far, one SS430.
    I also found that SS430 has a higher TCR value than SS316 and that means there are more points to measure when going from 100-200. If you have 20 points you can't be as accurate as if you have 80 points.

    I have no idea what those of you who say 'TC sucks' have used, done, set.

    I can say without a doubt, you have done it wrong. Took me about a day of playing to get the exact vape I wanted. Took less than an hour to get an acceptable vape. The thing is, TC isn't something that you just screw a tank on and push a button until you like it. It does take some knowledge of how TC is done.

    Factory coils? Nope, build your own. Make sure your TCR is accurately entered either by TCR or by a curve (on DNAs). Now make sure your resistance is stable and by that I mean before applying power. Pick a starting point, like 20W @ 400F. Open device monitor. Take a hit. See how the temp looks. You don't care about wattage, the watts will vary with the temp.
    Here's what I mean:
    AA.PNG

    This is a pair of huge coils (for me) 9 wraps of 27 gauge SS430 each, and it is exactly the ohms that my build deck reads, that steam engine said. See the room temp? If you don't run the case thermals it isn't going to be accurate. No good starting point, no good results.


    P.PNG

    This is the profile I am using currently for a Supreme Plus on a DNA133.
    The important things are to have Temp selected, temp dominate selected, and the proper material. I download mine from Steam Engine. Upload the profile to the device.

    DM.PNG


    Finally, the device monitor. See the temp line shoot to the set temp? That's great. See the temp stay right on the set point of 420? That's also great. See the wattage fall to 26.35W? That's great too because it doesn't take 76W to maintain the temp I am wanting.

    Though the mod, tank, and coils are all different than what you have, the principles are exactly the same for every tank/coil/power I have ever used. Do the setup of your DNA, have a good tank and coil, put in starter settings, use device monitor to tweak it to your satisfaction. Once it's done, save the file to your computer and upload it to the device. You don't have to return to EScribe again as long as you have the same power requirements and wire. In fact, I change the power from my mod as the material and temp always remain.

    That you don't get the same results says that you didn't do it right. Not that TC sucks.
    It does take some learning, some effort to find your TC settings. The payoff is the exact same vape. Time after time. Year in, year out.
     

    DPLongo22

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    I'd just like to say that I vape TC all day, every day.
    After experimenting with various metals, I settled on SS430. I found that there are MANY different alloys (blends) called SS316(L) and so far, one SS430.
    I also found that SS430 has a higher TCR value than SS316 and that means there are more points to measure when going from 100-200. If you have 20 points you can't be as accurate as if you have 80 points.

    I have no idea what those of you who say 'TC sucks' have used, done, set.

    I can say without a doubt, you have done it wrong. Took me about a day of playing to get the exact vape I wanted. Took less than an hour to get an acceptable vape. The thing is, TC isn't something that you just screw a tank on and push a button until you like it. It does take some knowledge of how TC is done.

    Factory coils? Nope, build your own. Make sure your TCR is accurately entered either by TCR or by a curve (on DNAs). Now make sure your resistance is stable and by that I mean before applying power. Pick a starting point, like 20W @ 400F. Open device monitor. Take a hit. See how the temp looks. You don't care about wattage, the watts will vary with the temp.
    Here's what I mean:
    View attachment 708579
    This is a pair of huge coils (for me) 9 wraps of 27 gauge SS430 each, and it is exactly the ohms that my build deck reads, that steam engine said. See the room temp? If you don't run the case thermals it isn't going to be accurate. No good starting point, no good results.


    View attachment 708585
    This is the profile I am using currently for a Supreme Plus on a DNA133.
    The important things are to have Temp selected, temp dominate selected, and the proper material. I download mine from Steam Engine. Upload the profile to the device.

    View attachment 708589

    Finally, the device monitor. See the temp line shoot to the set temp? That's great. See the temp stay right on the set point of 420? That's also great. See the wattage fall to 26.35W? That's great too because it doesn't take 76W to maintain the temp I am wanting.

    Though the mod, tank, and coils are all different than what you have, the principles are exactly the same for every tank/coil/power I have ever used. Do the setup of your DNA, have a good tank and coil, put in starter settings, use device monitor to tweak it to your satisfaction. Once it's done, save the file to your computer and upload it to the device. You don't have to return to EScribe again as long as you have the same power requirements and wire. In fact, I change the power from my mod as the material and temp always remain.

    That you don't get the same results says that you didn't do it right. Not that TC sucks.
    It does take some learning, some effort to find your TC settings. The payoff is the exact same vape. Time after time. Year in, year out.

    I admittedly haven't read every post, but who said that it sucked?

    Everything is relative, and everything is personal. I don't believe in "sucks" any more than I believe in "best". I believe it BOTH for ME, but not in any general sense.

    VV & VW have been working great for me, for many years, so I see no reason to change.

    Unregulated sucked (for me), and I think it's kinda funny that it's making a huge comeback now.

    Vape how you like, as you can bet that I will be.
     

    stols001

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    This is so true... I wanted to be able to try most things in the vaping world (and I have tried a lot of things, but nowhere near SOME) but I also know what I LIKE and I stick to that with the occasional foray into other things.... I can't ever imagine trying squonking for example, though I imagine at some point it may happen. If I love it, great. If not, equally great (and someone will receive a squonker....) I mean some stuff... I've tried an RTDA and HATED it, and I suppose I could hunt down "the" MTL dripper (if it exists) but to me it falls in the "why bother" camp since I have plenty of RTAs I actually like... But I don't run around trying to convince diehard drippers to vape MY way, LOL.

    I actually am THANKFUL for deeming in some ways, when I joined it was still JUST around the corner and prior to its "mood shift" and I probably tried DIY and coilbuilding LONG before I would have, if that wasn't a looming thing...and it's worked out great. Given that we still have NO idea what the FDA will do, I am STILL glad of it.

    If there's one thing every vaper needs (IMO) it's not necessarily particular equipment, but the ability to be self-sufficient going forward if necessary, in however fashion :)

    Anna
     

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    I'd just like to say that I vape TC all day, every day.
    After experimenting with various metals, I settled on SS430. I found that there are MANY different alloys (blends) called SS316(L) and so far, one SS430.
    I also found that SS430 has a higher TCR value than SS316 and that means there are more points to measure when going from 100-200. If you have 20 points you can't be as accurate as if you have 80 points.

    I have no idea what those of you who say 'TC sucks' have used, done, set.

    I can say without a doubt, you have done it wrong. Took me about a day of playing to get the exact vape I wanted. Took less than an hour to get an acceptable vape. The thing is, TC isn't something that you just screw a tank on and push a button until you like it. It does take some knowledge of how TC is done.

    Factory coils? Nope, build your own. Make sure your TCR is accurately entered either by TCR or by a curve (on DNAs). Now make sure your resistance is stable and by that I mean before applying power. Pick a starting point, like 20W @ 400F. Open device monitor. Take a hit. See how the temp looks. You don't care about wattage, the watts will vary with the temp.
    Here's what I mean:
    View attachment 708579
    This is a pair of huge coils (for me) 9 wraps of 27 gauge SS430 each, and it is exactly the ohms that my build deck reads, that steam engine said. See the room temp? If you don't run the case thermals it isn't going to be accurate. No good starting point, no good results.


    View attachment 708585
    This is the profile I am using currently for a Supreme Plus on a DNA133.
    The important things are to have Temp selected, temp dominate selected, and the proper material. I download mine from Steam Engine. Upload the profile to the device.

    View attachment 708589

    Finally, the device monitor. See the temp line shoot to the set temp? That's great. See the temp stay right on the set point of 420? That's also great. See the wattage fall to 26.35W? That's great too because it doesn't take 76W to maintain the temp I am wanting.

    Though the mod, tank, and coils are all different than what you have, the principles are exactly the same for every tank/coil/power I have ever used. Do the setup of your DNA, have a good tank and coil, put in starter settings, use device monitor to tweak it to your satisfaction. Once it's done, save the file to your computer and upload it to the device. You don't have to return to EScribe again as long as you have the same power requirements and wire. In fact, I change the power from my mod as the material and temp always remain.

    That you don't get the same results says that you didn't do it right. Not that TC sucks.
    It does take some learning, some effort to find your TC settings. The payoff is the exact same vape. Time after time. Year in, year out.
    I agree with both you and those you disagree with. You're right, it takes a little effort to get past the TC learning curve and it really is not particularly difficult. But I also understand why some do not want to monkey around with TC. They're in their comfort zone and just want to vape. TC can be a little finicky at times and I know lots of people who detest "finicky" in any amount.

    As for me, having friends on both sides of the debate ensures I keep friends on both sides of the debate. :)
     

    KatlandKat

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    I am another that just don't want to mess with TC even though my eleaf 40W is TC as well. I vape the same tanks and coils (not into building but have kit if needed) and use Nautilus Mini Clearomizers set at 12W for them all. This works for me and all battery mods are set at same Wattage. I was never good at math or science so simple is best for me. I remember I got so frustrated with the Evic Supreme that since then I just look for the least complicated battery mod I can find. Works for me just finding right drip tips that are glass and don't break is all the shopping I do now......with some new coils once in a while. I clean my coils using a heated ultrasonic cleaner for the coils and tanks.

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    I am another that just don't want to mess with TC even though my eleaf 40W is TC as well. I vape the same tanks and coils (not into building but have kit if needed) and use Nautilus Mini Clearomizers set at 12W for them all. This works for me and all battery mods are set at same Wattage. I was never good at math or science so simple is best for me. I remember I got so frustrated with the Evic Supreme that since then I just look for the least complicated battery mod I can find. Works for me just finding right drip tips that are glass and don't break is all the shopping I do now......with some new coils once in a while. I clean my coils using a heated ultrasonic cleaner for the coils and tanks.

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    My neighbor has an Aspire mod, uses drop-in coils. and is still vaping the first flavor he ever tried. He has been vaping 4+ years and has not had a single cigarette in that time. Who am I to try and change anything he uses?
     
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