Janty Stick vs Ego

[puscifer]

Hi

I've been avidly reading the forum since i found it, in the past 3 days and i've pleasantly discovered there are well thought out products like the stick and more coming up like the ego.
I'm just waiting for dates for the stick v3 (mostly any change in specs) and the ego.

I really like the ease of usb charging and not having to replace batts (unless i'm away from a computer more than 4 hours which rarely happens) and the pouch looks great. My main problem is although the 801 carts take a bit more than 1ml which i think is the max any cart carries, i worry 2 full carts won't be enough for 4 hours of normal/heavy vaping and i really don't want to go through the hassle of carrying liquid to top off. Some people say that a 3ml bottle fits with the stick, in the pouch, although i don't think 3ml comes with it, correct me if i'm wrong.

A good idea for the v3 would be a liquid recipient built-in that could carry 3ml and wouldn't be a 'hassle' to fill (not having to fiddle with the filling). I guess that would involve janty making a new kind of cartridge since thats the way the stick can take liquid into the atomizer. Although maybe the filling and the low content has some part on the low number of spillages, i dunno.. maybe someone can elaborate on that one.

One thing that kinda bothers me is the warranty for the 801 attys. Isn't 6 months way too much as an average lifespan? Batts maybe but attys?! Since i'm in Portugal i want to know that the 4£ i'm paying as warranty will actually be used, since shipping back and forth isn't justified for an atomizer. Since i never owned any pv i'll need a 'real world' lifespan so i can adjust the number of spare attys.


One last thing, when i decide what i'm getting (most likely the Stick) can i get confirmation on the products availability before the payment, since there isn't mention of items in stock?
How long will it take to get here (average) if i make my order on, lets say the 8th? And is there a difference (in time) between International Signed and Airsure?

Sorry for the rant but i'm gettin excited about this.. hehe
Any help appreciated, thanks.

 

[Toby]

Hi
My main problem is although the 801 carts take a bit more than 1ml which i think is the max any cart carries, i worry 2 full carts won't be enough for 4 hours of normal/heavy vaping and i really don't want to go through the hassle of carrying liquid to top off. Some people say that a 3ml bottle fits with the stick, in the pouch, although i don't think 3ml comes with it, correct me if i'm wrong.

I don't supply 3ml bottles, other people may do, but it is difficult to have such a relatively small amount of liquid commerciallly viable without a relatively high price tag, considering the amount of volume.

A good idea for the v3 would be a liquid recipient built-in that could carry 3ml and wouldn't be a 'hassle' to fill (not having to fiddle with the filling). I guess that would involve janty making a new kind of cartridge since thats the way the stick can take liquid into the atomizer. Although maybe the filling and the low content has some part on the low number of spillages, i dunno.. maybe someone can elaborate on that one.

This issue has, and is being considered by most manufacturers. Making it a functional reality is another. It has been covered quite a bit in certain quarters of the forum. Oh, and be prepared to fiddle a lot with all e-cigs. There is hassle involved, but much less hassle than the affect that smoke can have on your breathing capabilities etc.

One thing that kinda bothers me is the warranty for the 801 attys. Isn't 6 months way too much as an average lifespan? Batts maybe but attys?! Since i'm in Portugal i want to know that the 4£ i'm paying as warranty will actually be used, since shipping back and forth isn't justified for an atomizer. Since i never owned any pv i'll need a 'real world' lifespan so i can adjust the number of spare attys.

The length of warranty is a difficult one to fulfill; and how long an atomiser will last is a bit like a 'how long is a piece of string' question....

One last thing, when i decide what i'm getting (most likely the Stick) can i get confirmation on the products availability before the payment, since there isn't mention of items in stock?

All items are in stock unless stated otherwise (unless the item is a pre-order), or there is a mistake in the inventory. Stock quantities are not visible (the software) on both sites.

How long will it take to get here (average) if i make my order on, lets say the 8th? And is there a difference (in time) between International Signed and Airsure?

The target time for both is 3 days to Portugal, but Royal Mail isn't exactly on form at the moment (to say the least!). Airsure is the more recommended service because tracking should be available in the recipient country too.

Sorry for the rant but i'm gettin excited about this.. hehe

Well, I'm not surprised!

 

[puscifer]

Thank you for the quick answers.

I have some more now as i'm gearing to order

As i've read here and as i'm just going to start vaping, the higher nic dose, the better changes i have of quitting analogs. Any word on 36mg?

Whats the difference between high bridge and low bridge attys and which kind comes with the Janty Stick?

Did a search in the forum and couldn't find any codes, does someone have one?

 

[CatVTTV]

Puscifer, please do not start out with 36mg, it is very strong indeed.

When I started vaping after more than 40 years of smoking, I started on 11mg ( smoked 25 a day prior to that).

Initially I replaced 20 of those cigarettes with vaping, and then after 3 weeks, I gave up entirely.

I soon found I needed a stronger juice for mornings, as that is when I really need that nicotine top up, so now almost 8 months later, I use 18mg for am vapes, and 16mg after that.

If you vape a juice too high, you could find yourself feeling dizzy etc.

18mg is more than high enough for a new vaper to start out with.

Re High and Low bridge atomisers. High bridge are fine for drippers who dont use carts, or for those using carts. Low bridge are best for people like me, who use both. I put a couple of drops on the atty and top off the cart at the same time.

Janty atties are low bridge, and my personal favourites.

 

[e-pipeman]

Don't forget that if you get 36mg liquid you can cut it with either a no-nic e-liquid of the same flavour or a mixture of glycerine and propylene glycol to arrive at the strength you desire (you will lose flavour with the latter route). A forum search will turn up lots of info on how to do this (it's very easy). Good luck!

 

[Toby]

As i've read here and as i'm just going to start vaping, the higher nic dose, the better changes i have of quitting analogs. Any word on 36mg?

Yes! Janty are making 36mg for iVapour again!
Should be here later on next week.
But as Chris has said, most people find 36mg too strong....

Whats the difference between high bridge and low bridge attys and which kind comes with the Janty Stick?

Janty Classic atomisers are low spread out bridge. High bridge atomisers have more surface area in the mesh than the low bridge, but are closer at the top of the bridge to the end of the cart. Most people prefer low bridge.

Did a search in the forum and couldn't find any codes, does someone have one?

I have now created a 5% off Stick coupon - STICK5
But more recently, people who don't use a coupon for the Stick, a little bottle of RY4 often sneaks into the package....

 

[peaceoffcake]

When I try to make my order on ivapour elixir i see option "Enter your coupon code if you have one". Where can I find coupon code?

 

[Toby]

I don't have any coupon codes for the iVapour Elixir site at the moment (but I try to keep prices reasonable, and shipping is at cost price to Europe), but there is coupon STICK5 for 5% off the Janty Stick on the iVapour site.

 

[peaceoffcake]

I don't have any coupon codes for the iVapour Elixir site at the moment (but I try to keep prices reasonable, and shipping is at cost price to Europe), but there is coupon STICK5 for 5% off the Janty Stick on the iVapour site.

thx

 

[puscifer]

I'm waiting for my bank transfer to reach paypal, debit cards still don't work :/

Do the 5x atomizer pack have carts with them?

And how long can a cart be refilled before it starts to taste bad?

So i can estimate the amount of carts i will need.

Thx

 

[Toby]

The atomiser 5-packs come without carts and warranty - they are a value pack.

How often you change carts is a bit like a "how long is piece of string" question. Every few days maybe? Maybe sooner? Maybe longer? It's all down to personal preference.... and some people with certain models/atomisers, do not use carts at all....

 

[frogbmth]

You can wash the batting or even replace it if you want them to last and last...

 

[Toby]

Hey Andy - over a thousand posts!

Don't you get extra frog points for that?

 

[frogbmth]

I know who would have thought. I think I get a green pen at least

 

[puscifer]

My transfer cleared finally.
You ship on saturdays?! ;]

 

[Abe]

Hi Toby, sorry for posting in your forum (in advanced) but can't help notice you mention Airsure. I really wouldn't bother with the service if you use it, it only tracks inside the UK and even then, it's hardly courier type tracking. It's also like £1.50 more expensive. It doesn't, to me, seem any better a service than international signed for, even the insurance amounts are the same. Oh, it's also a scanned only service so thats a bit of a squeaky bum service I think.

Not sure how I ended up in here, I think I clicked on a search link

 

[puscifer]

From what i read on royalmail's site, airsure has international tracking while internationally signed doesn't, it stops the min. it leaves uk.

 

[Toby]

Last dispatch on Saturday at 11am; and do not necessarily get all orders out but try to, in somewhat panic!

Yes - I've been debating any advantage in Airsure over International Signed-For, ever since they invented Airsure (some years now)... They say Airsure should be capable of being tracked in recipient country, but doesn't really seem to be the case (i.e. maybe it is, and I don't know how to do it!). It is £0.80 more expensive than International Signed-For on a £39 price tier or less.

I think there is more info available if there is a failed delivery at the addressee. This has happened once with Airsure (that I noticed), so I was able to see that the recipient postal service had left a note with the addressee, saying they had attempted delivery.

But certainly Airsure is the more up to date service, whatever the possible advantages....

Oh, and a big HELLO to LibertyFlights! ~~

 

[puscifer]

They say Airsure should be capable of being tracked in recipient country, but doesn't really seem to be the case

Maybe it's because it's a national service and when it leaves the uk, its handed over to other national services. Might not have a direct air route, hence loosing tracking abilities as it passes 'other hands'.
On one hand, private transport assures you it never leaves the company, although if there's no distribution point near my town, if i miss the delivery, it doesn't go to the local postal office. I can only reschedule another drop.

Simply put, i might not know exactly when it gets here but at least it stays close if i miss it.

 

[Abe]

Hi Toby, I thought it was more than that? Also, the airsure ticket says 'scan not sign for', that worries me slightly, well, a lot. Yes, I scanned your package and left it behind the bin...Sorry, you can't claim for it as it was scanned for. It is possible the level of tracking is dependant on the recipients country?

We put all our international orders through international signed for now after quite a few didn't get to where they were suppose to, it makes it expensive for the smaller orders (1 atomizer say) but I don't see another way to do it really. How do you work it Toby?