jogging = impossible

[Paddrino]

I run for exercise (just did 4.6 miles at a 11min pace today actually). I started vapeing just at 3 weeks ago. I typically vape pg/vg, and I haven't felt the affects like you have reported here. This DOES NOT mean that the affects are the same as everyone's body is different.

Just want to reiterate what everyone here said about staying hydrated. I typically go through 20oz of water or gatoraide per run regardless the distance. If you are doing any running you should have a water bottle with you, and if you are feeling a burning in your chest you should slow down. Your pace may be too high. Don't push it. Just concentrate at staying at a solid pace through your entire run. Don't try to increase your pace. Set a distance goal and increase no more than .5 miles per run.

As for your juice, I wouldn't worry about wasting. You could always trade for more juice from someone else. If you think it could be your juice type it very well could be that you have an alergy to it. Try an all pg juice and if the condition worsens it could be the pg also.

I wouldn't recommend interval training more than once a week. Intervals are more geared towards people who are concerned with pace instead of distance. Just set a distance goal (start with 5k or 3.1 miles). Work at that distance until you can nail it every time you run and feel like you can go further. Only then should you start intervals to get your pace up (if that is important to you). Personally I am a distance guy. I don't pay much attention to pace. I add .5 miles every run, and only once a week do I do my ... (long slow distance) run.

Good luck! And whatever you decide, DON'T GIVE UP!!!

 

[pyro12]

Just set a distance goal (start with 5k or 3.1 miles).

That's the thing - I could do that last summer as a smoker no problem. I started slowly again this summer. I don't expect to be able to pick up where I left off. I did a mile for a week (with the occasional day off) and then upped to 1.25 then 1.5 then 2 days off. Breathing was VERY difficult through all of this. After the two days off the situation in my original post happened. I hate quitting, but I was thinking, "If I'm huffing and puffing this hard already, I'm going to die if I keep going," so I stopped. ~Two minutes later I've meandered around half the track and I'm back to normal. Frustrating to have to quit when your legs are still just 'waking up.' (you run so you know what I mean)...

Thanks for the input...

 

[Paddrino]

Keep in mind that rest is just as important as consistency. Never run 2 days in a row. You should set up a schedule with a day of rest in-between. Your muscles, tendons, and lungs need to have time to recouperate from the newly added stress. A typical schedule should be as such:

Monday: short distance quick pace
Tuesday: rest
Wednesday: medium distance slower pace
Thursday: rest
Friday: rest
Saturday: ... (long slow distance) cut your pace in half and add .5 miles since your last ....
Sunday: rest

Rinse / repeat.

Always expect for some days to be "off". It could be 10 degrees hotter that day. It could be you didn't hydrate enough that day. It could be a new route that has more hills that day. It could be a windy day that you had to push harder to keep your balance.

The important thing is to keep to your schedule, get plenty of rest and hydration, watch your diet, and never give up. Don't beat yourself up if you have to slow down or walk for a bit.

Good luck!

Edit: As further info, you might want to take a look at the beginners FAQ on the runners world forum: http://www.runnersworld.com/community/forums/runner-communities/beginners/faq-beginners. Just so you know, I was up to 14 mile long distance runs last year. I just started back to my "outside routiene" last week. After doing fast walking (3.5-4mph) for 3 weeks for 3-4 miles, I could barely get 1 mile when I switched to running before feeling like I was going to pass out. I had to stop and walk most of my distance for the first 3 times out (which comes out to a week for me on my schedule).

Also, as I said in the last post, if you think it is your VG then it may be an allergy or bad reaction to something in the juice. It could just be the VG type / brand that is used from whoever you get your juice from. Maybe slow down on the vapeing a bit to see if your symptoms remain. Maybe don't vape at all the day you go out for your runs. I would even venture to say that you should also check with your doctor to make sure you don't have something else wrong.

 

[Red Dog]

There's a whole (rather long) thread on VG here.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ble-glycerine-glycerol-safety-discussion.html

To be honest, I haven't actually read the whole thing myself. Mostly because I'm perfectly happy vaping PG (and enjoying the anti-microbial benefits of it).

However, if you're having respiratory issues, and you think VG may be the cause of it, I'd suggest having someone who knows what they're doing listen to your lung sounds. If you don't know anyone in the medical field, then you may want to have your PCP check you out.

There's also the possibility of an interaction with any medications (or herbal supplements) that you may be taking.

Many different things, or a combination of multiple minor things may be occurring here. More specific information would be required to even come close to determining the cause of your symptoms.

 

[Kimmy]

I was the same as you when I first started vaping. I tried jogging thinking I would have amazing stamina, I was mistaken..felt like my lungs were collapsing. So I decided to work my way up slowly. I walked everyday, increasing my distance. Than I started jogging small distances. I am now at 2.5 miles almost daily...listening to music helps because it blocks out your ailments and keeps you going. I am always surprised by the time I'm done I'm not out of breath, my only complaint is my knees. Just start slow and increase your intensity...you'll get there.

Edit to add: I also have asthma.

 

[VaporTrails]

I'll add my .02. I don't run or jog per se, however am an avid mountain climber/biker. I quit the analogs pretty much cold turkey the day I bought my first pv starter kit back in Feb of this year. Almost immediately I noticed (not to gross anyone out) that I didn't cough up all that junk in the morning and evenings. In fact the coughing has stopped completely. Within the first two weeks of quitting the tobacco I noticed an incredible amount of improvement on my performance on the mountain. Example, instead of reaching my V02 max (168 bpm) at say 100 meters on a 45 degree slope while on analogs, it doubled to 200 meters. Verified with my heart rate monitor as well. I'm not competetive in any way, shape or form, though I like to push myself a little harder on climbs and rides. The performance level has gotten better over time, thanks to the p.v.'s.

Since the weather has gotten better and quitting analogs it's been very surprising to see the improvement. Last summer I made a goal to achieve about 6,000 vertical feet in a week, say 2-3 peaks, 30+ miles. That goal was accomplished though painstaking while on analogs. This year the goal has been raised to 9,000 vertical feet, 3-6 peaks, 50+miles. With the p.v. and no more tobacco it's been working! The current goal has been reached consistently over the past 3 weeks.

Info on gear and juice: I use the ECHO 650 and 1300 auto batts and ECHO carts. I have juices from different vendors, which all range from 70pg/30vg and 80pg/20pg. Most of the juices are 24mg nic, only two I use occassionally are 18mg. The main juice vendors are Gourmet Vapor, Vaporbomb, and Backwoods Brew.

Another thing to mention about the OP: If you're starting up jogging cold turkey from not much intense exercise it will be a .... kicker probably for the first couple weeks til' those muscles start getting conditioned again. Like others have mentioned I'd suggest PG based juice, also. Good luck and hope for the best!

Some pics for fun:

 

[quovadis]

Go easier on yourself. Walk fast to warm up for the first laps, then jog slowly.
Once you warm up the breathing changes. Are you breathing correctly? You would be surprised by people jogging that do not breathe adequately or focus on their breathing.
May is warmer too, maybe more humid than the last time you jogged.
The first few months of jogging you need to focus on increasing your fitness level progressively. Alternate your pace plenty of times during the jog/walk.
Some days will go well and others not at all...don't jump to conclusions.
I am always out of breath the first half a mile...then the lungs breathe easier as you get that rythm going.

 

[swedishfish]

That's the thing - I could do that last summer as a smoker no problem. I started slowly again this summer. I don't expect to be able to pick up where I left off. I did a mile for a week (with the occasional day off) and then upped to 1.25 then 1.5 then 2 days off. Breathing was VERY difficult through all of this. After the two days off the situation in my original post happened. I hate quitting, but I was thinking, "If I'm huffing and puffing this hard already, I'm going to die if I keep going," so I stopped. ~Two minutes later I've meandered around half the track and I'm back to normal. Frustrating to have to quit when your legs are still just 'waking up.' (you run so you know what I mean)...

Thanks for the input...

I'd be really interested to hear how you're doing of if you notice any improvements with PG.

 

[pyro12]

I'll keep yinz posted: I stopped for awhile because the aforementioned back tweaking isn't healing up. My next order will be primarily PG and it'll probably be awhile. I'm not concerned that VG is doing any permanent damage so as long as I'm not jogging, I don't see any urgency to switch over...

 

[nonmalum]

Holy crap, you guys are having stuff CAKED on your lungs or the sensation of it?

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Cut back on da vapin!

 

[anfernio]

I'm only on day 2 of being cigarette free. I exercise a lot and I do a lot of running also. Yesterday I drank a lot of alcohol and so I was chain vaping like crazy because I wouldn't let myself have a cigarette. Today I'm a little hungover, but not enough to stop me from doing a short jog. I only ran about a mile because I was rocking the vibrams and my muscles get tight much quicker than with shoes. I haven't worn those things in years, so I wanted to start back up. Anyways, I noticed that after a mile I wasn't out of breath at all. In fact, I don't think my heart rate even went any higher than mid-range. That felt really good because my HR usually hangs around 170 when I'm jogging. The strange thing was that my lungs kind of hurt. It wasn't painful really, just a bit coarse feeling. It felt like I hadn't been jogging in months.

Is that from the chain vaping last night? I use the PG e-liquid.

 

[hippiebrian]

I am also a big dude (5'10", 230 lbs, and not as fat as that sounds) and I have a suggestion for you. Give up on the jogging if only for your knees' and back's sake! All that pounding by all that weight is horrible on the joints and discs!

I bicycle on a regular basis, and as soon as the jogging stopped, my knee pain stopped. I can now cycle 60 plus miles and have no knee pain what so ever. I have foune, since getting off the death sticks, my hill climbing has imporved 100%!

Also remember that you didn't stop smoking the same time you stopped jogging, and you did more lung damage by doing that (i.e. your lungs are still in worse condition than they were in last year). This should change with time. We didn't wreck our lungs over night, and it takes time to heal them.

If you do continue jogging, take it easy for a while and work up slowly. It should work! Also, you're almost 40 and you are an ex-smoker, so find out from your doctor how much jogging you should be doing for now!