Johnson Creek Smoke Juice

Status
Not open for further replies.

aussiedog61

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 27, 2013
186
131
Southern California
I've tried the mint chocolate but it tasted a little more like a very black/dark coffee to me, Their customer service and packaging is great though! They offered the option to make a return or to exchange for another flavor!

I wasn't too fond of that one either. The chocolate part was okay, but the mint part was lacking. I ended up making my own with Tundra and Swiss Dark (or Chocolate Truffle if you want a little more chocolaty taste).
 

boshans

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 31, 2013
181
68
38
New York, USA
My Marcado gives tons of vapor. I'm not sure what's going on there. Possibly a bad batch? Shoot them an e-mail with the batch number and they'll send you another. I wish they would put a little more clove and a little less cinnamon, but it's still pretty decent.

I'm having the same problem with Solstice, hopefully steeping will help. Needs more fruit flavor and less menthol on the exhale.

This is the second bottle I had of marcado since i returned a 24mg one for a 11mg one since the 24mg was to much for me. I only tried it once to be honest, it might have just been the clearo since i was using thick vg in it beforehand, and the marcado, even though its vg, is quite thin vg. actually i dont remember if it was even marcado that gave thin vapor or if it was autumn crisp. man autumn crisp smells damn good in the bottle though, haven't really vaped it yet though, only tried a little bit of each flavor once. except for swiss dark of course.
 

mkbilbo

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 4, 2013
2,294
2,874
Austin, TX
www.thesmilingwolf.com
I love some straight out of the bottle (Domestic, Tennessee Cured, and Tundra) and some I like better when mixed with others.

-Tundra with some Domestic and a little bit of Swiss Dark is close enough to Magnificent Menthol for me.
-Rainer with some Domestic is also close enough to Cherry Crush for me. Occasionally I'll add a little Swiss Dark.
-Domestic with Tennessee Cured is one of my ADV's.
-Vanda with Swiss Dark. Or Vanda, Swiss Dark, and Rainer.

Silverthorn is definitely a miss for me and I am trying real hard to like Solstice, but it's not happening yet. Marcado is one of my occasional vapes when I'm feeling like having a Clove cigarette.

I'm going to have to try some mixing like this. Swiss Dark was a flop for me by itself. Mixing with Vanda sounds interesting though. Hm... Got a buncha JC samples to play around with...
 

TBPlayer2112

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Nov 25, 2012
816
360
Northern Illinois
Man Marcado never produces like ANY vapor for me, and I want to use it so bad because it tastes damn good....I don't know what the hell is wrong with it. And I might have to agree with Solstice....I got mine like a week and a half ago, and right out of the box all I could really taste was menthol. It's been steeping since then though, so maybe it will get better, I guess I'll find out.
Sorry to hear of your Marcado woes. I'm just using the JC Vea kit and it produces plenty of vapor. I first heard of it on a grimmgreen vid and when he used it he was getting plenty of vapor as well.
I thought Solstice wasn't 'bad', just not as good as I wanted it to be. The flavor was kind of flat imo. Swiss Dark just tasted terrible to me, like burnt pop-corn.
I got a sample bottle of their strawberry juice Marengo and it's really nice. I mixed it with some Vanda for a smooth vanilla-strawberry flavor.
 

Litta'sGabby

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 24, 2013
378
677
Sandston, Virginia, United States
My Autumn Crisp is seeping! Well, at this point, they are ALL seeping, but I was especially excited about the Autumn Crisp! I am try to restrain myself...I just keeping smelling the jars, and swirling. Putting the cap back on, and shaking....putting it back on the shelf to steep. Gonna give it another week!
 

aussiedog61

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 27, 2013
186
131
Southern California
I am surprised nobody has mentioned summer peach. I love that juice! It only comes in PG.

I’ll have to get a sampler on the next order, the reviews seem good. Just for kicks I am thinking about getting Island, also.


I'm going to have to try some mixing like this. Swiss Dark was a flop for me by itself. Mixing with Vanda sounds interesting though. Hm... Got a buncha JC samples to play around with...

I love creating my own flavors. If I get a juice that I think is missing something or needs more of whatever flavor, I start experimenting until I get it to how I prefer. Johnson Creek supplies you with an extra plastic bottle that is great for mixing juices. I get a Sharpie and write my creation’s name on it. Easy peasy. No vendor can create one flavor that is going to appeal to everyone’s taste, so it’s up to the user to perfect it to his tastes.

Swiss Dark was a perfect example. By itself it was just okay, but it had certain notes that really I liked and were missing in some of my other juices. It’s a great addition to Tundra (Chocolate Mint), Rainer (Chocolate Cherry), and Vanda (Chocolate Vanilla) or any variation that I can think of. Domestic and Tennessee Cured are great to add if I have a sweet juice that is lacking a little tobacco flavor. The possibilities are endless. Have fun!
 

mkbilbo

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 4, 2013
2,294
2,874
Austin, TX
www.thesmilingwolf.com
I love creating my own flavors. If I get a juice that I think is missing something or needs more of whatever flavor, I start experimenting until I get it to how I prefer. Johnson Creek supplies you with an extra plastic bottle that is great for mixing juices. I get a Sharpie and write my creation’s name on it. Easy peasy. No vendor can create one flavor that is going to appeal to everyone’s taste, so it’s up to the user to perfect it to his tastes.

Swiss Dark was a perfect example. By itself it was just okay, but it had certain notes that really I liked and were missing in some of my other juices. It’s a great addition to Tundra (Chocolate Mint), Rainer (Chocolate Cherry), and Vanda (Chocolate Vanilla) or any variation that I can think of. Domestic and Tennessee Cured are great to add if I have a sweet juice that is lacking a little tobacco flavor. The possibilities are endless. Have fun!

Definitely going to try it. I have a big batch of samples from them (heh, they may as well add a "one of each" option, I think I have just about one of each!). Several were kind of... meh. But mixing... that sounds interesting. Like Swiss Dark, for me it was flat. Not enough taste. Think I'll try mixing with Vanda first. That sounds fun. :)
 

mkbilbo

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 4, 2013
2,294
2,874
Austin, TX
www.thesmilingwolf.com
My Autumn Crisp is seeping! Well, at this point, they are ALL seeping, but I was especially excited about the Autumn Crisp! I am try to restrain myself...I just keeping smelling the jars, and swirling. Putting the cap back on, and shaking....putting it back on the shelf to steep. Gonna give it another week!

Heh. I've got Autumn Crisp shoved to the back. Did not like it. Hoping it's a steeping issue. Merango was weirdly hit or miss. I think I'm going to give it another try but let it steep longer...
 

VapnWitch

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Feb 6, 2013
834
667
VA, USA
It's great as far as Blu or prefilled flavors go.
I also have a Vea. Have had mixed results with JC flavors.
Just placed an order with Velvet Cloud. They make Organic VG juice.

I LOVE Velvet Cloud. I've only found one juice from them that I'm not crazy about, but I haven't tried all their flavors yet (most, but not all lol).
 

boshans

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 31, 2013
181
68
38
New York, USA
Sorry to hear of your Marcado woes. I'm just using the JC Vea kit and it produces plenty of vapor. I first heard of it on a grimmgreen vid and when he used it he was getting plenty of vapor as well.
I thought Solstice wasn't 'bad', just not as good as I wanted it to be. The flavor was kind of flat imo. Swiss Dark just tasted terrible to me, like burnt pop-corn.
I got a sample bottle of their strawberry juice Marengo and it's really nice. I mixed it with some Vanda for a smooth vanilla-strawberry flavor.

Come to think of it I think it was autumn crisp that did not produce vapor, probably because it was that that i put in a tank that i just used with a thick vg liquid, and crisp is pg, so it probably couldnt wick correctly. i have a vea also, and just got some of their rev 3.0 cartos, maybe i'll fill one of those up with marcado and see what happens.

all of them have been steeping for like 2 weeks now i think, but i cant stop vaping hhv's heavenly tobacco, so i haven't tried anything else yet. and yeah to be honest I don't really like swiss dark alone, it's not bad, but i mix it with a lot of stuff and it just gives other juices that certain something that makes them delicious. i think i have a vanda+merango mix in one of those tiny bottles JC sends you steeping. i had like 15 of those things since they sent me a million, so i mixed together a bunch of flavors to let steep together.

I have a solstice, rainier and merango mix steeping, with i THINK a couple of drops of swiss dark or vanda in it also...dont remember...i made a label that just says solstice, merango, rainier, others. lol, i don't remember what others means at all....probably vanda since it's lighter in color and swiss dark turns everything dark as hell. i don't know if that one is going to be disgusting or actually good lol.
 

Harplayr

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 28, 2012
3,469
7,613
Florida
Nice to see JC getting some love.

While I started out vaping JC Tennessee Cured almost exclusively, I eventually moved away from the tobacco flavors.

One thing I like about JC is that they have a real lab to mix their juices. With some of the small mom and pop juice makers, I always feel like I'm taking a gamble on how the juice is prepared and what the actual ingredients are. As noted by others, their customer service is second to none, and while taste is an individual item, they do produce quality juices, and have great consistency. With some other vendors I've found large variances in the taste of their product from batch to batch.

As far as gunking up coils, many of my other favorite juices gunk them up just as fast (I'm into chocolate and coffee flavors). I use clearo's and tanks that I can easily clean and dry burn to keep things going well. With some maintenance, I can get long life out of my vaping supplies.
 

mkbilbo

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 4, 2013
2,294
2,874
Austin, TX
www.thesmilingwolf.com
Nice to see JC getting some love.

While I started out vaping JC Tennessee Cured almost exclusively, I eventually moved away from the tobacco flavors.

One thing I like about JC is that they have a real lab to mix their juices. With some of the small mom and pop juice makers, I always feel like I'm taking a gamble on how the juice is prepared and what the actual ingredients are.

True. At the same time, they were one of the ones the FDA spanked over quality control:

FDA letter to Johnson Creek Enterprises, LLC 9/8/10

Now, I'm not against the idea of regulation in terms of QC. "Don't poison your customers" sounds like a good rule. My question is whether the FDA will stop at something reasonable or try to run anybody that dares compete with pharma (and, yes, big tobacco) out of business.

But it's not like I worry JC is gonna kill me or anything. They'd have to, well, go a long way to get to the level of what the tobacco companies did. And pharma is doing. Like, oh, suicide pills. I mean Chantix. But I repeat myself.

I think ingredient disclosure would be a decent idea. I kind of would like to know what I'm inhaling. Though the irony that cars don't have stickers that tell us what they're pumping into the air we breathe has not escaped me. Nor, come to think, coal plants (which, ironically enough, may put more radioactive substances into the atmosphere than the average nuclear power plant).

I dunno. I would love to go to an FDA hearing and tell them, "Get back to me after you pull Chantix off the market 'kay?"

But ranting aside, I like JC. Not everything of theirs but four have become not just part of my rotation but mainstays. Like Rainier and Vanda. Sweet but not overpowering. Great "default" vapes. Like if I'm running out the door and need something I know I can vape for an unknown amount of time without getting tired of it. Those two are always ready to go. And since Aussiedog put the idea in my head to mix TC and Domestic, I'm closing in on my "tobacco like" vape that I've wanted for a while. It's not exactly the same but there's some combination of the two that is really nice. Still playing around with the ratio. Trying 50/50 at the moment. Close but not quite there yet.

And Merango may join that "staple" status. First sample bottle I got was uneven. Sometimes really good, other times, kind of blah. Decided to give it another try. But with longer steeping and more shaking. Maybe the one I got was out of a fresh batch and not evenly mixed.

As noted by others, their customer service is second to none, and while taste is an individual item, they do produce quality juices, and have great consistency. With some other vendors I've found large variances in the taste of their product from batch to batch.

As far as gunking up coils, many of my other favorite juices gunk them up just as fast (I'm into chocolate and coffee flavors). I use clearo's and tanks that I can easily clean and dry burn to keep things going well. With some maintenance, I can get long life out of my vaping supplies.

I haven't had any problem at all with "gunking" out of my JC liquids. I'm using Vision clearos... version 2? The terminology seems a bit muddled. CE4? CE5? V2? V3? Can't seem to find any agreement on which is which! Either way, it's the ones with replaceable heads. I bought extra (they're not that expensive), got some spare heads, and swap out now and again, disassemble, rinse out, air dry... so far, no problem.

In fact, FlavorZ by Joe (which can be incredibly tasty) are thicker and more likely to act up for me. The clearos I use JC juices in, I don't "rotate" as often as the ones I use Joe's in. I'm not sure what the complaints about JC are about.

Maybe it was earlier versions of their liquids and they addressed the issue?

But I'm a fan. Vanda, Rainier, Domestic, TC and maybe Merango soon might as well be on "standing order". :)
 

psho

Full Member
Jul 20, 2012
22
5
Maryland
I have to agree with the gunk-up of the atomizers. In fact....almost every Johnson Creek juice I've had has performed terribly in anything with a wick (CE4, Vivi Nova etc)

The only way I can get Johnson Creek to vape properly is through a cartomizer. But that doesn't stop me...I have 2 DCT's just for JC Juice. Their flavors are that good ;)

(btw, Black Cherry and Domestic are my two favs. I've had them all, in their sample kit they sell online)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread