Joye Ego VS. Volt

[MrSpaghetti]

Hi all! I'm pretty new to this forum and to vaping.

I ordered a Volt from Smokeless Image last week, which was just delivered yesterday. On the same day I ordered it online, I bought a Joye eGo from my local smoke shop. I wanted to buy two because I wanted a ecig that resembled an analog, and because I read countless threads saying that the eGo was definitely the way to go for hardcore vaping.

My first impressions of the eGo were pretty solid. This was my first VP, and I was taught how to drip by the guy who sold it to me. It supplied the perfect amount of throat hit (using 18mg juice), but very little vapor. The vapor output was disappointing, even for a novice vaper. While the TH felt like a cigarette, my lungs were telling me otherwise.

When I tried out my Volt last night, I was surprised by two things: First, it produced TONS of vapor. Stupidly, I bought the 12mg cartos, so the throat hit was minimal and unsatisfactory. Second, the tiny battery lasted much longer than I expected - over 4 hours on a full charge.

So here's my question: Am I doing something wrong with the eGo? Obviously, I *should* prefer it over the Volt simply because I won't have to deal with cartridges and will save money buying juice. I'm thinking maybe I need either a low resistance atty or a dual-coil atty, but shouldn't it have worked just fine for a novice out-of-the-box? When I see video reviews of the eGo, they seem to produce a lot of vapor, but for me the vapor production is negligible.

 

[leftfeild]

It's not so much the batteries as the device that's on them.

A volt uses cartomisers at 2.5ohms and is regulated to around 3.7volts. That's a good setup for heat and there's usually a decent amount of juice held around the heating coil with a cartomiser.

An ego is 3.4v (ish) regulated again, so it's barely lower in voltage. If you have an atomiser it could be that you're flooding it and need to use less drops in there to get better vapour. You can get any 510 threaded cartomiser for the ego and it should be just like the volt.

One thing that could be different that's making the difference is the juice itself. A higher vg ratio in the juice will make a lot more vapour. Some pg blends I used to vape had almost no vapour production at all. They just do that. Try out some different juices with higher vg content for more vapour on your ego.

 

[Shaman]

The differance in vapor is probably the juice. Juice with more VG produce more vapor, when I drip I use 100% VG, when I use cartos I use at least 20% PG to thin the juice so it will feed better. The eGo should kick the volts .....

 

[tj99959]

Leftout (sorry couldn't resist) is correct, it isn't the eGo bat it's the atomizer that is on it.
The eGo comes with standard resistance atomizers which work perfectly at about 5 volts. You will be pleasantly surprised with what that little guy does with LR atties. Also get some 2 ohm Boge cartomizers for it.

 

[MrSpaghetti]

Thanks for your replies so far.

Next question: Can I use any 510 LR or dual-coil atty with the Ego? Or do I need to get a larger battery if I want to do this? I'm a little hazy on this point.

Also, does anyone know the percentage of VG/PG Smokeless Image uses in their carts?

 

[leftfeild]

Thanks for your replies so far.

Next question: Can I use any 510 LR or dual-coil atty with the Ego? Or do I need to get a larger battery if I want to do this? I'm a little hazy on this point.

Also, does anyone know the percentage of VG/PG Smokeless Image uses in their carts?

Not certain but I think they use only pg.

You can use LR gear on your ego batteries. It's not reccommended to use low resistance gear on anything lower than 380mAh (or it was something like that). The ego is 650mAh or greater so in theory it should be ok. I've been using LR atomiers and cartomisers on my 650mAh egos for months now.

It is meant to reduce their lifespan as it is going to drain them faster. However, in my experience, I haven't noticed this happening. If it does drain their lifespan it shouldn't be by a great amount.

The dual coils I got in and tried on my ego didn't work well. The vapour just tasted wet, not properly vaporized and mostly just sucked. Could be the age of my ego batteries by now but I don't think dual coils are going to work on the ego in general. The only one I did get to work on the ego was the EMDCC (ego mega dual coil carto) from madvapes.

 

[MrSpaghetti]

Ok, last question:

If you buy cartomizers for your eGo, do you still use an atty? The Volt's cartomizer/atomizer is one unit.

Thanks again for all of the helpful replies!

 

[slammer]

No, your cartomizers will work just like the ones for your volt, all in one. I recommend the Boge LR.

 

[leftfeild]

Ok, last question:

If you buy cartomizers for your eGo, do you still use an atty? The Volt's cartomizer/atomizer is one unit.

Thanks again for all of the helpful replies!

A cartomiser and atomiser are two different things.

An atomiser is a two piece (atomiser and cartridge) which is great for direct dripping but is otherwise terrible for portability. Good advice from your store to show you how to drip on these.

You're right about the cartomiser, they're a one piece you just put on the battery that you put juice straight into. You don't put a cartridge or anything on cartomisers.

If you get a cartomiser for the ego it's going to be exactly like the volt ones you have. You just put juice in them and put them on your ego.

 

[markfm]

Cartomizer = combined cartridge and atomizer, same as on a volt. I really like the boge 2 ohm 510 cartos on riva or ego.

 

[Stef64]

Ok, last question:

If you buy cartomizers for your eGo, do you still use an atty? The Volt's cartomizer/atomizer is one unit.

Thanks again for all of the helpful replies!

A cartomizer replaces the atomizer/cartridge setup, so the answer is no.

 

[leftfeild]

+1 on ohm ratings. Higher than 2.5ohm cartomisers are too cool for me on an ego. 2.5 - 2.0 ohm cartomisers will be the equivalent of what your volt is running like in terms of warmth. Forgot to mention ohms

 

[Pav]

Keep in mind you can use your Volt cartomizers on the Ego if you get a 510 to KR808 adapter. I usually use Boge LR cartos mentioned above in 510 or KR8 form this way, always on an Ego battery.

 

[MrSpaghetti]

Is the Volt compatible with KR808? I heard it wasn't.

 

[leftfeild]

Is the Volt compatible with KR808? I heard it wasn't.

The volt is definately kr808 threaded. More specifically it's Kr808D-1. kr808 stuff will work on your volt no problem.

Thanks Pav for mentioning adapters too. I do the exact same thing and never even thought about it. I love volt cartos so I stick them on my ego with a 510 - 808/901 adapter. Cheaper if you're running both to just buy one set of cartomisers and get a cheap-o adapter.

 

[Pav]

Is the Volt compatible with KR808? I heard it wasn't.

The volt is definately kr808 threaded. More specifically it's Kr808D-1. kr808 stuff will work on your volt no problem.

That's what I had heard too, but I should say I have not actually used Volt cartos. I use Boge KR808 cartos on an Ego with an adapter. Sorry if I'm wrong about the volt cartos.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

They sure as heck look like 808s -- their site chat is online, just ask them!!!

 

[leftfeild]

They definately are. I put my 808 cheapo kangers on the volt and they work. I use the volt cartomisers with a 510 - 808 adapter and they work. Most definately kr808.

 

[dormouse]

Were you using the same juice? PG juice makes less vapor than juice with a bit of VG in it.

Were you using the same vaping method or trying to comparing a prefilled cart+atty to a cartomizer?

Volt is 3.6v. Standard KR808D-1 an Vapor4Life is 3.7v. Ego is closer to 3.2v. The Riva 510 kits at Liberty-Flights.com are 3.7v and so are most mods. But even a 3.7v fat battery or mod isn't going to be any stronger than a KR808D-1 at 3.7v if you put an adapter on one and use the SAME cartomizer and juice. It will be identical. When the fat batteries are better is hte length of their charge and the option of using the hotter low resistance parts. (though using the low resistance parts will shorten their charge). If you can get 4 hours out a Volt battery then you don't need a fat battery unless you want longer charge and the option of hotter hits with LR.

But if you put a Volt carto on an Ego w/ an adapter, the Ego will get less heat out of it than Volt does. I have the LF shop's Riva 510 and if I use an adapter to put a KR8 carto it feels the same as on my KR8 battery. I have a clone "Ego" 3-stage battery from Gotvapes and so far that is interesting (goes 3.2, 3.7. 4.2v) and I understand there is a similar model called Jessie that has more battery sizes. And there are 3.7v and VV mods that would also be good long-charge things for KR8 cartos (generally with an adapter)

if you buy Ego, you would use lower resistance atomizers and cartomizers to get the same heat a KR808D-1 gives.

 

[carpedebass]

Do yourself a HUGE favor. Do not wait to order an eGo Mega Dual Coil Carto or three. It'll make your eGo come alive! TH, vapor and taste are incredible.