Joyetech eGrip - I am loving this thing!
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Cuz I'm OCD like thatI don't understand the problem with liquid under the drip tip? I never see it... Why are you worrying about it?
And it's just a tiny bit. But no leaking, neither of mine have leaked a drop.
But the combo of condensation under the tip dripping back down the chimney (possibly due to 100% VG?) and incorrect wicking (which was solved, thanks to posts here and in the other thread in the APV forum) had me thinking gurgling due to flooding. I have a little cotton ring set under the tip now, not affecting tip fit, so will vape until bedtime and check what happens.
Like I said earlier, the condensation actually accumulates enough so that there's a big drop on the bottom of the tip if I pull it out, and there's enough to hang across the top of the chimney due to surface tension. If I blow into the drip tip cavity, the tension breaks and I can watch it drain back down. If it's cleaned out, no noise at all. If not, little tiny gurgling.
See? OCD lol
And sorry, Timberwear - didn't mean to offend. Just concerned when I read this:
Kinda sounded like you were struggling, with both smoking and the eGrip. And think I'm safe in saying we all struggle(d) with smoking.
OK, kinda thought so!Cuz I'm OCD like that
Have you tried the original tip to see if that shape solves it?
OH NO, Skins for drip tips!
lol! Aw cmon, the skin was for a reason - I dropped the damn thing and chipped up the body. As a vaping ambassador, I want it to look niceOK, kinda thought so!
Have you tried the original tip to see if that shape solves it?
OH NO, Skins for drip tips!
It was the main reason why I went and bought my second one too, to have one to show off in the stock wood finish.
And the stock drip tip is flat on the bottom too, just like my shorty stainless ones (and I imagine like 99% of other drip tips out there, too).
It got lost in my post couple pages back (I do have to learn to write shorter posts so eyes don't glaze over), but again - I'm wondering why Joyetech made the drip tip cavity funneled at the bottom, when their own tip and what seems the majority of aftermarket ones out there are flat, too.
Probably funneled so, in theory, the condensation that builds up could drain back down onto the coil. I usually only notice the gurgle from under the drip tip if I've been chain vaping
Yeah, I don't chain vape with the egrip.
Probably depends on your mix too. I notice flavorings concentrate in my eroll carts, which tells me they don't really vaporize completely. VG seem to collect everywhere, windows, etc. I'm back to straight PG and not noticing it as much.
Yep, juice gathering under the drip tip can give you a false sense of flooding. I noticed this early on and leave my egrip standing upright whenever possible. Helps is drain. If it gets too annoying I just flick the excess juice out with a sharp downward motion of the mod. Usually clears things right up.
I wouldn't be surprised if reports of muted flavor come back using the cotton trick. It's why I don't use cartos, build verts or own an atlantis.
I wouldn't be surprised if reports of muted flavor come back using the cotton trick. It's why I don't use cartos, build verts or own an atlantis.
Im having that issue with gurgling will have to keep it up right or flick it out. Sometimes if i open the air and boost the watts i can vape it out but havent rlly tinkered much but will be more now
Today I dry burned the coil and replaced the wick (first time with the RBA, after two weeks). The RBA Base worked like a champ to enable me to dry burn the coil. I was floored with how bad that coil was (and the fact that it still vaped at all). I had to change it due to the fact that the cotton had burnt. In answer to the above question, the RBA Base will attach to a mod (via 510 connection) and allow you open access to the coil. This will enable both dry burning and compressing coils. If you use a mod to determine resistance, it will enable that as well (I use a multimeter).
ETA: I re-wicked with CC (rayon).
ETA: I re-wicked with CC (rayon).
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the RBA base replaces the disposable eGrip CS coils and allows you to build your own coils on a deck like a little kayfun/russian tank.
Got my second eGrip today! It took maybe 15 minutes from opening it up, checking the ohms of the installed coil, wetting the wick, filling the tank, screwing in the base to completely lovely trouble free vaping!
I did notice that the finish is different on this one. It is wood just like my other one, but the finish is somehow slightly nicer…more matte finished and it feels nicer to touch. Vaping right now on this brand new one is telling me that I need to change out the coil in the first one…but if I hadn't had this new coil to compare it to, the performance drop would not have been enough to make me think it was new coil time!
I am so happy with the eGrip as a device. So easy, and the rba works great, and the battery life is longer than I thought it would be at first. I am leaving on Friday to go to Disney World for 4 days…and I am literally taking two eGrips, some extra cotton and coils, a charger and some juice…nothing else. And I'm going with three chain smokers. That is how happy I am with this little guy.
(ETA:Well, probably taking my MVP too, but just in case I need to charge my phone.)
I did notice that the finish is different on this one. It is wood just like my other one, but the finish is somehow slightly nicer…more matte finished and it feels nicer to touch. Vaping right now on this brand new one is telling me that I need to change out the coil in the first one…but if I hadn't had this new coil to compare it to, the performance drop would not have been enough to make me think it was new coil time!
I am so happy with the eGrip as a device. So easy, and the rba works great, and the battery life is longer than I thought it would be at first. I am leaving on Friday to go to Disney World for 4 days…and I am literally taking two eGrips, some extra cotton and coils, a charger and some juice…nothing else. And I'm going with three chain smokers. That is how happy I am with this little guy.
(ETA:Well, probably taking my MVP too, but just in case I need to charge my phone.)
A lot to be said for not having to pack a bunch of back ups for our back ups, right? However, when I'm out n about (long work day outside or traveling) I am always prepared with a fully charged mvp to charge my phone... and IF anything goes wrong with the mod of coice I keep a fresh topped of carto tank handy too... anxious to get to use the egrip again... c'mon vape mail
ENJOY your trip to the HAPPIEST place!!!
Yep, same here - both of mine are in wood finish, and the first one had a few tiny blems (like dust particles) and more satin, the second one is more matte and no blems. The loose watt dial / fire button issue was addressed between the first and second ones too - the dial / button on the first is kinda loose, and you can hear it rattle when shaken. Second one, dial / button is solid, no rattle.
This is something I haven't mentioned - battery life is great! I'm getting ~ 12-14 hours before shutdown, at 12.5 / 14 watts. I'm doing a phone customer service job working from home in the interim before a new gig starts in March / April - my call average is 6.5 minutes, and I'm having a pull pretty much after every call (and sometimes while I have the customer on hold while I'm looking into the issue
). I ramp up from 8 watts first thing in the morning to 12.5 / 14 when I hit the saddle for an 8 hour shift and for the rest of the day, with an occasional bump higher for fun.I guess I am chain vaping in the evenings after my shift, once or twice maybe every 5 minutes, sometimes more. So far, I'm going through one tank (3.6 ml) a day (but I never let the tank run completely dry, so let's call it 3 ml). On a few occasions, I do top up after my shift.
The minor gurgling has stopped with the tiny cotton donut trick under the drip tip, which I'm replacing once a day at refills. Doesn't seem to affect the flavor at all. And I do stand mine on end / vertical 99.9% of the time. They might be in a coat pocket for an hour or two when out, or on its side for a few minutes if I'm relaxing in bed with a book (currently reading Full Moon, Dougal Butler's account of his time spent as the handler of Keith Moon, AKA Moon the Loon of The Who).
And I've been alternating the two units - run one down to shutdown from use all day, refill, put on charger, go to bed. Other one is ready for a full day the next morning from the same treatment. I also charge them while standing - I just have it positioned at the edge of the side of my desk so the cord is hanging down.
And still zero leaks!
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The charge that was on #2 when I took it out of the package yesterday about 4pm JUST ran out about an hour ago. I did vape it all the way dead, even though lots of people say it isn't strictly necessary to do that, so that I could give it a full first charge. I vaped it all night last night (till bedtime around 12) and all day today while out and about. I'm impressed. I was a little worried that one charged eGrip MIGHT not last a full day of Disney-ing and that I might need to toss the charged spare in my bag as well. I probably still will just to be safe, but I don't think it'll be necessary.
Also, swapped out the coil from #1 this evening. DUDE…that thing was BLACK and crusty. I mean, beyond the point of dry burning it and trying to save it and well into the "time to scrap this baby" stage. It's weird that I didn't notice a significant drop off in vapor and taste given the state of it…I'm pretty sensitive to gunky coils on my tanks, I would usually swap out the one on my GDC and my Kanger tanks weekly. I did have a weird thing happen when I installed the new coil…I was still using the one that came in it before. It is so tiny that it was a little hard to get in place correctly, and I wasn't sure how far to screw the screws down. I didn't want to crank them all the way because I didn't want to break the wire inside, but it seemed like if I didn't tighten them really tight the resistance on the coil was fluctuating pretty badly. I got it where it felt steady and wicked it up and checked the resistance again..1.34. I screwed everything together, filled the tank and took one hit…and then it wouldn't fire. I figured something was wonky with the coil, and sure enough I took it out and checked the resistance and it was at .997! I fiddled with the screws, tightened them some more, and it was back at 1.34 and stayed that way. I've been vaping it for an hour or so and it seems good. Should I be heating up the stock coils and squeezing them the way I would if I made the coil myself? It would be possible to do that with the 510 attachment I think, but I assumed that since they came pre-built that they were good to go out of the package.
Also, you're right about the clicky button thing…I didn't notice till you said so, but it is tighter than the first one
Also, swapped out the coil from #1 this evening. DUDE…that thing was BLACK and crusty. I mean, beyond the point of dry burning it and trying to save it and well into the "time to scrap this baby" stage. It's weird that I didn't notice a significant drop off in vapor and taste given the state of it…I'm pretty sensitive to gunky coils on my tanks, I would usually swap out the one on my GDC and my Kanger tanks weekly. I did have a weird thing happen when I installed the new coil…I was still using the one that came in it before. It is so tiny that it was a little hard to get in place correctly, and I wasn't sure how far to screw the screws down. I didn't want to crank them all the way because I didn't want to break the wire inside, but it seemed like if I didn't tighten them really tight the resistance on the coil was fluctuating pretty badly. I got it where it felt steady and wicked it up and checked the resistance again..1.34. I screwed everything together, filled the tank and took one hit…and then it wouldn't fire. I figured something was wonky with the coil, and sure enough I took it out and checked the resistance and it was at .997! I fiddled with the screws, tightened them some more, and it was back at 1.34 and stayed that way. I've been vaping it for an hour or so and it seems good. Should I be heating up the stock coils and squeezing them the way I would if I made the coil myself? It would be possible to do that with the 510 attachment I think, but I assumed that since they came pre-built that they were good to go out of the package.
Also, you're right about the clicky button thing…I didn't notice till you said so, but it is tighter than the first one
The charge that was on #2 when I took it out of the package yesterday about 4pm JUST ran out about an hour ago. I did vape it all the way dead, even though lots of people say it isn't strictly necessary to do that, so that I could give it a full first charge. I vaped it all night last night (till bedtime around 12) and all day today while out and about. I'm impressed. I was a little worried that one charged eGrip MIGHT not last a full day of Disney-ing and that I might need to toss the charged spare in my bag as well. I probably still will just to be safe, but I don't think it'll be necessary.
Also, swapped out the coil from #1 this evening. DUDE that thing was BLACK and crusty. I mean, beyond the point of dry burning it and trying to save it and well into the "time to scrap this baby" stage. It's weird that I didn't notice a significant drop off in vapor and taste given the state of it I'm pretty sensitive to gunky coils on my tanks, I would usually swap out the one on my GDC and my Kanger tanks weekly. I did have a weird thing happen when I installed the new coil I was still using the one that came in it before. It is so tiny that it was a little hard to get in place correctly, and I wasn't sure how far to screw the screws down. I didn't want to crank them all the way because I didn't want to break the wire inside, but it seemed like if I didn't tighten them really tight the resistance on the coil was fluctuating pretty badly. I got it where it felt steady and wicked it up and checked the resistance again..1.34. I screwed everything together, filled the tank and took one hit and then it wouldn't fire. I figured something was wonky with the coil, and sure enough I took it out and checked the resistance and it was at .997! I fiddled with the screws, tightened them some more, and it was back at 1.34 and stayed that way. I've been vaping it for an hour or so and it seems good. Should I be heating up the stock coils and squeezing them the way I would if I made the coil myself? It would be possible to do that with the 510 attachment I think, but I assumed that since they came pre-built that they were good to go out of the package.
Also, you're right about the clicky button thing I didn't notice till you said so, but it is tighter than the first one
Also, swapped out the coil from #1 this evening. DUDE that thing was BLACK and crusty. I mean, beyond the point of dry burning it and trying to save it and well into the "time to scrap this baby" stage. It's weird that I didn't notice a significant drop off in vapor and taste given the state of it I'm pretty sensitive to gunky coils on my tanks, I would usually swap out the one on my GDC and my Kanger tanks weekly. I did have a weird thing happen when I installed the new coil I was still using the one that came in it before. It is so tiny that it was a little hard to get in place correctly, and I wasn't sure how far to screw the screws down. I didn't want to crank them all the way because I didn't want to break the wire inside, but it seemed like if I didn't tighten them really tight the resistance on the coil was fluctuating pretty badly. I got it where it felt steady and wicked it up and checked the resistance again..1.34. I screwed everything together, filled the tank and took one hit and then it wouldn't fire. I figured something was wonky with the coil, and sure enough I took it out and checked the resistance and it was at .997! I fiddled with the screws, tightened them some more, and it was back at 1.34 and stayed that way. I've been vaping it for an hour or so and it seems good. Should I be heating up the stock coils and squeezing them the way I would if I made the coil myself? It would be possible to do that with the 510 attachment I think, but I assumed that since they came pre-built that they were good to go out of the package.
Also, you're right about the clicky button thing I didn't notice till you said so, but it is tighter than the first one
Yes, you do have to treat the factory wound coils for the rba just the same as a coil you wound yourself. They are bare wire and have not been fired so no alumina has developed on the wire surface to electrically isolate the turns of the coil. Res can be very low until fired.
The 510 adaptor is your best bet but in a pinch you can heat the coil to red hot with a bic lighter while holding one leg with tweezers. Be careful. Only heat it red hot then take the flame away. Over heating can distort the symmetry of the coil. Heat it and let it cool a few times before installing in the rba.
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Thanks Cigatron. The one I'm using now seems to be working OK…I guess it got heated enough off that first puff. Should I let it ride, or start all over with a new coil and heat it up using the 510 head and my istick?
You know the old adage, "If it ain't broke...don't fix it.".....
A lot of of folks here and on other forums are experiencing similar behaviour with factory made coils (some work...some don't) on the egrip. Not because premade rba coils are bad, there really is no such thing, but because some have not gained understanding of the basic electrical principals at work.
The 510 adaptor is your best friend when it comes to getting those coils to fire correctly and read the correct res.
Hope all you lurking noobs are listening; you cannot just measure the res of an unfired contact microcoil to determine it's resistance. It has to be fired and the turns given a chance to become electrically isolated by the formation of alumina crystals on the wire before true res can be measured
If you install a brand new factory wound or diy replacement coil in your rba it may or may not fire in the egrip. It depends on how many electrical shorts are in the coil.....the more shorts.... the lower the resistance. If there are too many shorts the res will be too low for the egrip or Istick to fire the coil. Once the shorts are removed by firing the coil res will be correct and it will fire in the egrip.
It's best to use a mech mod or subohm capable box mod to initially fire your coil with the 510 adaptor.
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This is a great idea. Absorbing it rather than just occupying the space and causing potential problems for drip tip fitment.
Lil tiny cotton donut wouldn't be hard to do. I pull the drip tip two or three times a day anyway to clean under there. No reason it wouldn't work, just have to make sure it doesn't impede the airflow. Gonna try one now.
Get it out of yer head you "need" smokes. It's the nicotine you want - you don't need it. That was one of the biggest revelations Vape World brought to me. If it's the eGrip that's giving you problems, let us help with it
Oooo did it work? I'll keep reading to see... get mine today or tomorrow. Did not try it on Tims... anxious!
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