Joyetech eGrip - I am loving this thing!

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MrSparkle

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Make sure your base is screwed all the way in.
Yep, cranked down good on both units. Saw this associated with the gurgling earlier in the thread. And made sure all the base pieces were tight when assembling.

Hm. Like I said, no biggie. And actually, within the last few minutes switched over to the more recent second unit that sat all day, and it's not doing it now.
 
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Yep, cranked down good on both units. Saw this associated with the gurgling earlier in the thread. And made sure all the base pieces were tight when assembling.

Hm. Like I said, no biggie. And actually, within the last few minutes switched over to the more recent second unit that sat all day, and it's not doing it now.

Might try cranking up the voltage a bit. Are you using an rba. I'm using the original build and it's working great. Maybe adjust the wicks. Mine were only covering 2 of the holes and I left them that way, but it sounds like you are getting some flooding.
 

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Yep, RBAs in both - I posted my noob experience with them a couple pages back.

Voltage: you mean wattage? I have the clicks of the watt dial worked out like this:

If the first click / smallest dot is 8 watts, eight clicks up to 20 watts is 1.5 watt increments: 20 - 8 = 12 / 8 = 1.5

I start out first vapes of the morning at 8, and work up to 12.5 or 14, then stay there the rest of the day - I'll go higher for a vape or two for fun. 20 on the regular is too much for me still. And now that this one is warmed up, it's gurgling a bit at the start of the draw again.

I have the day off tomorrow / today, so might futz with the wicks some more. They might be covering airflow like you said. Thanks!
 

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Drip tips: Admittedly, I haven't been in this long and didn't try many - I settled on a chromed shorty in the Cignot store that felt right / looked cool when I bought the first eGrip, but found a tiny bit wobbly during use the first few days.

Easy fix: a visit to the local mom n pop hardware store for some trial and error o-rings. Bought a couple extra which came in handy when I bought the second eGrip body with an identical tip. Wondering if the tiny bit of extra tolerance is to accommodate whatever zillion drip tips are out there.
another easy fix for wobbly tips is to take some dental floss and wrap it around the groove on the tip that the o-ring fits into.
 
Yep, RBAs in both - I posted my noob experience with them a couple pages back.

Voltage: you mean wattage? I have the clicks of the watt dial worked out like this:

If the first click / smallest dot is 8 watts, eight clicks up to 20 watts is 1.5 watt increments: 20 - 8 = 12 / 8 = 1.5

I start out first vapes of the morning at 8, and work up to 12.5 or 14, then stay there the rest of the day - I'll go higher for a vape or two for fun. 20 on the regular is too much for me still. And now that this one is warmed up, it's gurgling a bit at the start of the draw again.

I have the day off tomorrow / today, so might futz with the wicks some more. They might be covering airflow like you said. Thanks!

You might want to rewick the cotton, if you didn't when you first got it. I did notice that the cotton that was pre-installed in the coil that came in mine was a little short. I changed it out with one of the ones that was in the extra coils in the bag. If it's not enough cotton down inside the head it might gurgle. Like I said, I haven't had a gurgling problem (though I have noticed that I have to be careful hitting it first thing in the AM if it's been sitting full of juice all night because it POPS hot juice in my mouth like molten lava lol) but that might fix it. Yesterday, I experimented with re-wicking mine with cotton bacon instead of the japanese cotton that came with it, and it's working pretty well.

Also, the only time I have experienced leaking out the rba air intake is when I left it sitting all night on my nightstand with barely any juice in it (I had charged it to full the night before, and was anticipating a long day out without access to an outlet to charge it, so I wanted to make sure it lasted all day and didn't use it that night after I charged) It seemed like being almost empty messed with the vacuum inside, and when I picked it up to refill in the AM there was a tiny bit of juice on the table. Didn't seem to be enough to reach the usb port or hurt anything. Just FYI.

I am still experiencing the tiny bit of leakage out the bottom seal sometimes. It has lessened since I tightened the screws up, but it seems to still happen if I fill the tank from the bottom and then vape a whole bunch without letting it sit for a few minutes. Not a lot of juice, just enough to notice it but not so much that I feel uncomfortable just wiping it off with my finger. I can't tell where it's coming from. Looks like it is literally oozing out the seal near where the "wood" part meets the metal bottom. By no means a deal breaker, since I just ordered another rba kit from Cignot this morning. :)
 

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No, I think they might NOT be covering the holes which would cause flooding.
Ah, ok... thank you, four! Was getting airflow and wicking holes mixed up.

You might want to rewick the cotton, if you didn't when you first got it. I did notice that the cotton that was pre-installed in the coil that came in mine was a little short. I changed it out with one of the ones that was in the extra coils in the bag. If it's not enough cotton down inside the head it might gurgle.
Yep, touched on that a few pages back too, I did the same thing. Took pics. Will redo the wicks later today.

I am still experiencing the tiny bit of leakage out the bottom seal sometimes. It has lessened since I tightened the screws up, but it seems to still happen if I fill the tank from the bottom and then vape a whole bunch without letting it sit for a few minutes. Not a lot of juice, just enough to notice it but not so much that I feel uncomfortable just wiping it off with my finger. I can't tell where it's coming from. Looks like it is literally oozing out the seal near where the "wood" part meets the metal bottom. By no means a deal breaker, since I just ordered another rba kit from Cignot this morning. :)
I still think this shouldn't be happening at all - neither of mine leak a drop anywhere, even with the RBAs, and I've been checking on the regular. Wondering if it's not a tank assembly issue from the factory, if it's leaking through the body.

Dang, Cignot's game is strong. That is all.
This is true. :)
 
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Definitely gurgling, but it turns out mu rda was damaged wither from the factory or in shipping im also missing the air control screw as id rather not reolace the whole unit I dont suppose im finding that screw anywhere

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Do you mean the RBA base? I have three, all in different egrips, (and from two different places), and they all leak. The gurgling was mostly alleviated by tightening up the base really tight, but it still leaks enough that it can be messy. You don't need the screw as far as I know with the RBA base, because it's bypassed since the RBA has it's own airflow (from the bottom - where it leaks!).
 

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Do you mean the RBA base? I have three, all in different egrips, (and from two different places), and they all leak. The gurgling was mostly alleviated by tightening up the base really tight, but it still leaks enough that it can be messy. You don't need the screw as far as I know with the RBA base, because it's bypassed since the RBA has it's own airflow (from the bottom - where it leaks!).

With this type of rba (vertical air hole) you are going to see some minimal wetting of the bottom due to vapor splatter from the coil entering into the airhole and then running down to the bottom. Condensation as well. But it should be so minimal that the next draw pulls it back up into the atty section where it can be "recycled". If your rba is gurgling at all it is flooding and there are conditiins that encourage it.

Things that cause gurgling: leaky tank seal, drawing too hard, wattage too low, wicking not covering juice inlet holes, chain vaping ie.(overheating), insufficient wicking, coil set too high above airtube and leaving the device horizontal for extended periods. Check for these conditions. Gurgling leads to leaking so if you can get a handle on these you're home free.

To clear a flooded Egrip, or any tank atty, I use the thermometer flick technique. Remove the drip tip. Firmly gripping the device use a medium speed downward motion stopping suddenly at the bottom of the motion (be careful to not hit anything with the device!). The excess juice in the atty and air ways will come flying out of the drip tip hole. It's good to have a paper towel or something to flick the juice on to. It works great and puts you back to square one (no gurgle).

Blowing into the device to clear flooding can actually cause flooding by relieving too much of the air vacuum in the tank so I can't recommend it.

Hope this helps
 
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Things that cause gurgling: leaky tank seal, drawing too hard, wattage too low, wicking not covering juice inlet holes, chain vaping ie.(overheating), insufficient wicking, coil set too high above airtube and leaving the device horizontal for extended periods. Check for these conditions. Gurgling leads to leaking so if you can get a handle on these you're home free.
Just spent a couple hours messing with the RBA wicks in both my units. No gurgles!

Wicking not covering juice inlet holes was definitely the culprit. Following the suggestion in the Engrish instructions that came with the RBA helped a bit, too.

Initially, when I first did these (described back on page 25), I had wicked the coils pretty long, primed them, and used a nail file to tuck them down tothe base bottom, then put in the RBA tube (the part with the juice inlet holes, there's four of them). I didn't take into consideration that the inlet holes, when the tube is screwed down tight, are actually up near the coil deck, so on one RBA, the wick was only covering three of the four holes.

This time around, after a lot of trial and error, I cut the wicks shorter, then followed step four from the instructions:

"Lift up the two sides of the organic cotton strip [wick], and then install the RBA tube. Next, use a tweezer to press the cotton into the two sides of the e-juice inlet."

So you're pulling up the wick ends from the coil, threading the two ends up into the tube, tube then gets screwed down, then tucking down the wick.

But: on one of my RBA bases (the one where I had only three holes covered due to my noob error), when the tube is screwed down, all four holes are exposed nicely around the deck. Totally obvious where to tuck, and I also used the pointy end of a thumbtack to help scootch things around so the air hole wasn't blocked and things were tidy around the coil. RBA cover went on, RBA went in the body, screwed down tight as possible, fired up, no gurgling.

On the other RBA base, when the tube is screwed down, two of the holes line up the with deck base, and there's virtually no room to tuck the wick in between the deck and the tube. That's where most of the trial and error went, was to get wicking down in there, or at least jammed around the coil screws and deck close enough. I suspect this has to do with the indexing of the tube threading / inlet hole drilling - can't imagine Joyetech is getting that particular about it. But this one was in the unit that gurgled a bit more than the other (but neither were seriously bad).

In any case, the end of a nail file and the thumbtack helped there too - I got enough wick down there and packed as best I could around the deck and coil screws, and both units were firing nicely right after reassembly - but as I write this, the one with the holes lining up with the deck is starting to gurgle a tiny bit at the beginning of the draw again.

Anyone having leaking or gurgling should be having a close look at how those juice inlet holes in the tube line up with the deck of the base itself. I tried one attempt at wrapping a super thin layer of the cotton that comes with the base around the sides of the deck, but the tolerances are so tight that the threads of the tube got hung up on it and wouldn't allow it to start threading.

Final note: that smaller slot in the RBA base around the air hole is a threaded sleeve that clamps the deck pieces down to the base body (I took the whole damn thing apart :) ) Both of mine weren't fully tight when I brought the bases home, and in fact had loosened up a bit after all the fiddling with the RBA. I'd recommend making sure that's tightened up after any coil / wicking action. (See the pic back on page 25, too.)

Blowing into the device to clear flooding can actually cause flooding by relieving too much of the air vacuum in the tank so I can't recommend it.
This is true, at least for the eGrip. Dennis at Cignot had mentioned doing something like this on his mod, when we were talking mod generalities - I tried it a few days after I had my RBAs in and the gurgling started to see if it would help, and it was messy.
 

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Lot of good solid research Mr.S. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones because all four juice holes are accessible to wicking on my rba.

Tucking the wick ends down between the lower chimney and the deck after the lower chimney is threaded in is working best for me. I start the wick ends into that area then gently tap on the wick to coax it all the way down to the bottom. Then I use a needle to drag a portion of the wick end over to the juice holes on each side.

Stuffing/jamming the wick down seems to compact the wick fibers which slows the transport of juice and results in dry hits at higher wattage. Easy does it and keep it fluffy.
 

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When I buikd decks I always screw the himney cjt then press down rather than guessing and screwing over the wick eithwr way I hope the new setup woeks out a bit better

What surprised me mlst was the nasty taste and drh hits after two pulls with the stock coil id definitely think people should try the aspire coils (non nautilus) as the factory seem really bad - if they arent rebuilding

The premade coils are so inexpemskve I bought ten maybe I'll rewick as necessary

Simce most lf my juice is at least 65/35 I think rba is the right answer

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Well into the second week on my first head without so much as rinsing it. Haven't tried the rba yet. The first day I noticed the flavor was a little muted but from the second day it improved to great. This thing is performing flawlessly. Judging from the amount of juice I've put through it as compared to other heads these seem to be very economical. Somewhere around $.30 a day and dropping. It's by far the best device I own out of about 60 +.
 
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