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Thanks. I read that higher VG = more vapor & call me crazy but I like the "smoke" look! Do you have any juice vendors you highly recommend?

I LOVE these guys, its who i use 80/20 PG/VG from that works great in my eroll. I have been using their Kosher fruit flavors as my treat, and the Red full flavor as my typical vape. The red has a bit of a honey flavor too it, and Jingai tried the Basic and said its more like an analog. So im going to give that a try next order. If you do like sweet stuff, the Red is really good, tastes like fresh tobacco/honey and gives a great thick vapor cloud.

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Nope, 80/20 PG/VG, did you get a high VG liquid from Wordup? They do not dilute the VG at all so it is thick like syrup! The 50/50 was wicking pretty poorly, i had to add a little distilled water to it. SO i just stick to the 80PG/20VG now

Huh. With other vendors, I've had some leaking issues with 60-90% PG. I confess I haven't tried with wordup though -- I got 50/50 from them (the sampler only comes in 50/50). I guess I'll try a bit higher next time, as I do notice it not wicking very well. Seemed odd to me because 50% PG juices from other vendors have usually been very, very thin.

Motek, the moral of the story is: you'll be playing with different liquids a while before you find what works for you :p
 

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Huh. With other vendors, I've had some leaking issues with 60-90% PG. I confess I haven't tried with wordup though -- I got 50/50 from them (the sampler only comes in 50/50). I guess I'll try a bit higher next time, as I do notice it not wicking very well. Seemed odd to me because 50% PG juices from other vendors have usually been very, very thin.

Motek, the moral of the story is: you'll be playing with different liquids a while before you find what works for you :p


Its because other vendors dilute the VG with water. Wordup does not dilute, so the VG is really thick.

So when you get 50/50 from say, HHV, youre actually getting like 50PG/30VG/20H2o. Most vendors dilute anywhere from 30-50% water into their VG afaik

edit: You can add 10% distilled water to a 50/50 from wordup and it will wick like a champ
 

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Its because other vendors dilute the VG with water. Wordup does not dilute, so the VG is really thick.

So when you get 50/50 from say, HHV, youre actually getting like 50PG/30VG/20H2o. Most vendors dilute anywhere from 30-50% water into their VG afaik

edit: You can add 10% distilled water to a 50/50 from wordup and it will wick like a champ

Was totally unaware of that, thanks for the info!
 

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Please let me know how you like it! The eRoll is going to be my first too & I'll be looking forward to the feedback of a complete newbie like me.

I will post back when I get it. I keep checking the tracking hoping it will somehow speed up and get here today, but so far no such luck, lol
 

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80/20 PG/VG will almost certainly leak. Pretty sure he meant 80/20 VG/PG. I personally like 60-80% VG. I find 100% VG doesn't wick that well after a while.

actually, I also use 80 PG/20 VG and have never had a leak. and I am glad to know that higher vg also works. I have ordered a sampler from a vendor who determines the proper ratios by the flavor, so I am fairly confident that all flavors and ratios should be fine.
 

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So in my cart (before I hit buy) I have:

1 Eroll starter Kit
2 extra cones
1 extra battery
5 tank replacements
1 - 5pk atomizer heads
2 blunt tip needle dropper bottles
1 Innokin Ucan

I was going for 3 complete Units + spare tanks & heads and I figured I'd try both the blunt needle & Ucan.

Before I hit the buy button am I missing anything to end up with what I want to have once it arrives? (besides juice!)
 

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So in my cart (before I hit buy) I have:

1 Eroll starter Kit
2 extra cones
1 extra battery
5 tank replacements
1 - 5pk atomizer heads
2 blunt tip needle dropper bottles
1 Innokin Ucan

I was going for 3 complete Units + spare tanks & heads and I figured I'd try both the blunt needle & Ucan.

Before I hit the buy button am I missing anything to end up with what I want to have once it arrives? (besides juice!)

looks good. the needle tips are good at home..ucan great for out and about..I think you nailed it :D
 

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Also remember that nicotine strength doesn't vary much between cigarette types in the US (full strength vs light refers more to tar and flavor). In the US at least, cigarettes are currently around 1.2mg of nicotine per stick. So one eRoll tank with 24mg juice is roughly a half pack of cigarettes. I'm still convinced that the nicotine delivered this way isn't as bio-available (meaning you'd need higher nic juice than the math suggests), but that's still open to debate so I'll just present this as my own anecdotal evidence.

That said, I found I needed 48mg during the first few weeks with the eRoll to get cigarettes out of my mind (1 to 1.5 pack/day smoker for 18 years, have tried quitting about 100 times before). I'm down to 36mg now and am cigarette free for 1 month (painlessly, I should add) and hope to be at 24mg eventually.

The reason for the seemingly obscene nicotine level is that the eRoll is most fuss-free when you use it like you used traditional cigarettes. Few reasons for this:

1) The tanks are small. Filling them 10 times per day will drive you batty while you are going through the quitting process,

2) The atty cone gets really hot when you chain vape, so it's more difficult to hold it like you hold a cigarette. Taking less frequent puffs alleviates this,

3) At 48mg, you'll actually prefer the eRoll because it's a stronger buzz (like when you first started smoking),

4) It allows you to put the damn thing down once an hour or so -- I hated having it in my mouth constantly, but YMMV here obviously.

The bottom line is that I wanted to replicate the cigarette experience as much as possible to quit (I even still go outside for my 'smoke'), because in my previous attempts to quit using PVs I ended up fussing with them all the time and using them constantly that when I needed/wanted a smoke badly and quickly (stress, drinking, etc), I'd go buy a pack of camels -- particularly if my atty burnt or something because I was sucking on it all the time :)

The eRoll + 48mg liquid gave me a better cigarette experience with very little hassle. If you find you like using it frequently, obviously don't go for such high nicotine or you'll make yourself sick ;)

My favorite tobacco flavors (have tried tons) ended up being Intellicig's ECOpure Regular and Wordup Ecig's Basically Tobacco. Both vendors will go up to 48mg.
 
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Wow 48mg that is intense lol. I started with 18mg, but i can only get a good TH for half the day, then its like i become immune and cant satisfy my cravings. I feel pretty good about 24mg, but may just make the jump to 36 for the heck of it. Maybe a 70/30 36mg or 60/40, im not 100% on that though since the 50/50 from wordup is a little too thick. Although I have not tried the 50/50 with a mesh screen!
 

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Wow 48mg that is intense lol. I started with 18mg, but i can only get a good TH for half the day, then its like i become immune and cant satisfy my cravings. I feel pretty good about 24mg, but may just make the jump to 36 for the heck of it.

It works well if you've got the discipline to keep yourself from chain-vaping it. Cigarettes have a kind of built-in mechanism for preventing you from smoking obscene amounts: it hurts your lungs :p You don't get this with vaping, so if you're not careful you'll lose the hit from even 48mg. I started to, and backed myself down to 36mg.

But it did help me to actually get away from cigarettes. This is the first time I truly prefer vaping to smoking :)
 

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Oh and another thing i never knew. If you make an order from wordup, you can request a free sample with any liquid order, just put the flavor youd like to sample in the comments box. Im not sure if the deal is valid if you are in fact ordering the sampler 5 pack though haha

Ah bugger. I just ordered 50ml of Basically Tobacco and added a sampler pack of fruit flavors to give them a whirl. I would have gone for one freebie of a mild fruit flavor had I known, as I probably won't care much for the fruit flavors (can't stand sweet tastes often). Oh well.
 

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Ah bugger. I just ordered 50ml of Basically Tobacco and added a sampler pack of fruit flavors to give them a whirl. I would have gone for one freebie of a mild fruit flavor had I known, as I probably won't care much for the fruit flavors (can't stand sweet tastes often). Oh well.



The Pear flavor is actually very very light in the 10ml i bought to try out. Its become one of my favorites. Its got flavor but its not too sweet or overpowering. The Berry Blend was very strong, Caramel Apple very strong. Strawberry banana and Cherry koshers were medium, very true to the fruit, not really that sweet. I have had Pina Colada and Key Lime Pie, both are dead on flavor, kind of strong. The Pina is good but i grew tired of it quick. The Key Lime is really good, i never knew i liked lime so much. Atomic Fireball is well, you know. Its just like the candy. I love it, it really enhances the TH, so i tend to use it later at night


edit: I forgot i tried a friends Hi C, it tasted like Hi C, but im not a fan of Hi C in general so, dont want to say i didnt like it
 
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Nice list, youll have everything i have haha. If you dont have a lot of experience with juices, and were a full strength smoker, youre looking at minimum 24mg with the eroll i think. I used medium analogs and im using 18-24

I smoke Silvers which are Ultra lights. Does that make a difference in how many mg I choose?
 
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