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vdaedalus

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I haven't vaped a tobacco of any sort in about 7 months. Tonight I tagged along on an order of a friends and grabbed 30ml of the 007 Gunslinger in 'six shooter'. It might be a nice change after vaping mostly fruit for the last 7 months. I think he's tossing in a small sample of the Gorilla too cause he asked me if I liked banana.

Curious to see what you think. I barely consider the 007 GS a tobacco vape, but I'm just starting out and have been trying a lot of tobaccos (many terrible, terrible tobaccos). Drifting into a dessert phase after trying Pearl Necklace and Vader Puddin, so I threw some Swedish Pastry into my order last night. BUT I also added a Heisenberg Blue based on you talking about it here (and on WO I think?). I've not really tried any fruity vapes, am a bit suspicious of them for some reason (that might be because of years of raspberry fog at bars). For the price, 30ml is a cheap experiment.

Had an awesome customer service experience with last night's order, too. Can't wait to get the new stuff.
 

Kagey K

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I would have hoped that juggle checking out for six weeks would have subsided, but the vaping community grew in that time as well. If you are lucky he is open for. 15-30 mins. Have your order planned out and create your checkout as fast as you can. It is a race at this point every time he opens. Get the flavours you want in the first few and do the checkout info after that.

Once you get one order you are in there forever. They used to be open a few minutes a night, but they haven't got back into that routine yet. Supply and demand. No supply equals a great demand, until people get tired of it...... And I can see one his biggest proponents has found a new taste.
 

Kagey K

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Actually things have calmed down a bit. I was looking at site 1:45 min after opening last night and he was still open.

He used to be open every night for 10 or 15 minutes and then open for 4 hours or so on Friday night. This has been a giant step back for customers. I joined the vamping community right when he decided to limit himself and got an order in when he tried the morning opening. Since then the service has been going down because his name just keeps growing, with no extra help.

If you want quality vales you use juggle, if you want to cape you use anyone else. I would like to see him open more, but he can only do what he can do. Now that he is gist registered that makes it worse. People are watching his money now and gst is a whole mother giant time waster.
 
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Tajji'smom

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Good juice is hard to get sometimes and I personally think his juice is great, so I'm fine with it being a little hard to get.

Aliceinvapeland is the exact same way, open once a week for a few minutes.

I like Alice in Vapeland's juice a lot-besides only being open a few minutes, it took almost a month to get here. At least Juggie's turn around time is quick and much more variety to choose from.
 

Kagey K

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Good juice is hard to get sometimes and I personally think his juice is great, so I'm fine with it being a little hard to get.

Aliceinvapeland is the exact same way, open once a week for a few minutes.

I'm not saying it's the wrong way to run a business and I have been dealing with Juggie for long enough to understand why it's the way it is. Before the shutdown he was able to be open daily with big openings on Friday, so something obviously changed between July and now. It really makes no difference to me, because just like you I can email him and get what I want even if the site isn't open, but for new customers it gets harder and harder to recommend him.

It's not the way I would do it, but I guess it works for them.
 

Kagey K

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Good juice is hard to get sometimes and I personally think his juice is great, so I'm fine with it being a little hard to get.

Aliceinvapeland is the exact same way, open once a week for a few minutes.

I'm not saying it's the wrong way to run a business and I have been dealing with Juggie for long enough to understand why it's the way it is. Before the shutdown he was able to be open daily with big openings on Friday, so something obviously changed between July and now. It really makes no difference to me, because just like you I can email him and get what I want even if the site isn't open, but for new customers it gets harder and harder to recommend him.

It's not the way I would do it, but I guess it works for them. If I had the choice I would open a few mins a day, just to give people the hope of getting an order I. Every 24 hours rather then every 7 days. I understand it makes it more desirable, but only until the point everyone gives up on it.
 
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BonesK98K

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As a new customer to Jughead, I have no issues with the way he is operating to keep up with demand and ensuring his delivery times are acceptable to this fast paced go go go world we live in.

I find his Juices are top notch, and order enough to last a while. I don't have any issues being at the computer when it opens to place an order.
 

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This practice reminds me of the rental market in Calgary in 1981. A healthy rental market has about a 4% vacancy rate. At that time Calgary had a 0.04% vacancy rate. Ads for rentals were showing up in news papers that had showing times like '6:15 to 6:30 PM' and people lined up because you have to live somewhere. Usually the first people to view took the house for rent.

Today there are multiple vendors selling quality e liquid with great service. I have no idea of how good Jugheads liquid is, but it would have to be pretty damn special before I would even contemplate 'standing in an online lineup' to get his/her liquid. As I have told businesses before "It would appear that you are far too successful to need or want my business.' But that just me.

I don't do lineups well and by experience have found that businesses that are looking for customers 'tend to try harder to please' than those who are are oversold/overbooked. A prime example is, when in a grocery store when I get to the checkout and 3 of 8 tills are open with more than 4 customers at each till, what I see is a grocery store that demands I stand in line to trade my currency for their goods. If they value my currency that little, I'll look for some other store that doesn't believe I should have to wait 20 or 30 mins to pay them.

I am not livestock going to slaughter and refuse to be treated as such. In fact if it's really bad (6 or 7 customers at each till waiting) I'll do a 'MOOOO' noise before walking away from my cart and heading to the exit. I refuse to pay for standing in line. Jughead might have great juice but customer service is also part of the deal. No thank-you Jughead, but I'm glad it's working for you.

I have also read about people camping out overnight to be the first inline to buy a new edition pair of sneakers. ...??? Sorry but this old fart doesn't get it. I'll pay extra for customer service but refuse to be treated like a barnacle when offering up my hard earned currency.
 

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Jughead might have great juice but customer service is also part of the deal

Agreed 100%, good thing his customer service is amazing. Of all the vaping vendors I've done business with he is hands down the best when it comes to serving his customers. He is amazingly nice and very very generous. No matter how big or small my order I've always gotten freebies thrown in and I'm sure everyone else will say the same thing.
 

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I think some of you assume that Juggy is only open for a short time each week by choice.

He has a busy life outside of juice-making and due to his rural location he does't have many options to hire help. He takes as much business as he can reasonably handle and does a great job. If he could handle the business that would result from being open all day, every day I'm sure he would do it, but that's not possible.

I certainly prefer having to be a little more conscientious in placing my orders than having no Juggy at all.
 

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I think some of you assume that Juggy is only open for a short time each week by choice.

He has a busy life outside of juice-making and due to his rural location he does't have many options to hire help. He takes as much business as he can reasonably handle and does a great job. If he could handle the business that would result from being open all day, every day I'm sure he would do it, but that's not possible.

I certainly prefer having to be a little more conscientious in placing my orders than having no Juggy at all.

Exactly bro, and it's even posted on his website.

With all the Vendors around I've np getting liquid I like, Juggie is one I prepare for ahead of time. So this fits my schedule, If I miss a week or 7, no biggie. I'll get there. Besides lining up on my iPad is very easy I'm sitting there anyways, hehe.
 

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This practice reminds me of the rental market in Calgary in 1981. A healthy rental market has about a 4% vacancy rate. At that time Calgary had a 0.04% vacancy rate. Ads for rentals were showing up in news papers that had showing times like '6:15 to 6:30 PM' and people lined up because you have to live somewhere. Usually the first people to view took the house for rent.

Today there are multiple vendors selling quality e liquid with great service. I have no idea of how good Jugheads liquid is, but it would have to be pretty damn special before I would even contemplate 'standing in an online lineup' to get his/her liquid. As I have told businesses before "It would appear that you are far too successful to need or want my business.' But that just me.

I don't do lineups well and by experience have found that businesses that are looking for customers 'tend to try harder to please' than those who are are oversold/overbooked. A prime example is, when in a grocery store when I get to the checkout and 3 of 8 tills are open with more than 4 customers at each till, what I see is a grocery store that demands I stand in line to trade my currency for their goods. If they value my currency that little, I'll look for some other store that doesn't believe I should have to wait 20 or 30 mins to pay them.

I am not livestock going to slaughter and refuse to be treated as such. In fact if it's really bad (6 or 7 customers at each till waiting) I'll do a 'MOOOO' noise before walking away from my cart and heading to the exit. I refuse to pay for standing in line. Jughead might have great juice but customer service is also part of the deal. No thank-you Jughead, but I'm glad it's working for you.

I have also read about people camping out overnight to be the first inline to buy a new edition pair of sneakers. ...??? Sorry but this old fart doesn't get it. I'll pay extra for customer service but refuse to be treated like a barnacle when offering up my hard earned currency.

Holy entitlement batman...

You would just ditch your cart full of picked items at a grocery store because you have to wait in line to pay? Like you're somehow better than everyone else also trying to pay and should be served first? Damn dude, you just might be a complete ........

moo? You're a complete and total idiot lol
 

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Holy entitlement batman...

You would just ditch your cart full of picked items at a grocery store because you have to wait in line to pay? Like you're somehow better than everyone else also trying to pay and should be served first? Damn dude, you just might be a complete ........

moo? You're a complete and total idiot lol

I don't think he's saying that at all. Leaving a store with a cart full of goods left behind to rot is telling them something. How many times do you see 10 to 15 check out lines and only 3 to 5 of them with clerks? I see it all the time and it's very frustrating that the company feels their huge profits are more important then their customers time. They have a pretty good idea as to when they will be busy and should staff accordingly. Either that or be willing to pull stock clerks to help out in line.

Okay enough ranting about the mega corps. We're talking about a small business person here. He probably only has one or two employees and maybe even a life. Knowing where Jughead lives also tells me that he may not have access to people that he can hire. I tend to give small business owners a bit more slack then the mega corps. I would even say that running his liquid company is a full time job but doesn't give him a full time wage. He's doing the best he can with the situation at hand.

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