Juice with no flavor after steeping

[Michelle Wolff]

View attachment 823121 Just an example, so you can see how the hole sizes vary with the difference in ohms. Top is 1.8, next is .4 and bottom is .12

The first one is okay at 50/50 or thereabouts. The bottom does fine with max vg.

Thanks for the visual. Since I am new, I did not know about any of this!!

 

[Michelle Wolff]

Generally you need a mod capable of 30w at least,and a tank that takes drop in coils 0.4/0.5/0.8/1 ohm.
These coils have larger wick holes than 1.5/1.8 ohm coils so thick juice can flow easier.You can do restricted DL or loose MTL whith them.

Kroma-a kit can do up to 75w and takes 0.5,0.8 and 1.6 ohm coils.
You can check Aspire Tigon kit for 30 bucks.

So the smaller the ohm the larger the holes?
If the Kroma kit does up to 75w with the different ohm coils will it also do the lower pg? Like, the one I have won't do the higher but will do the lower.......will a higher wattage do all of it? (does that make sense?) (a dvd won't play blue ray but a blue ray will play a dvd and br.....)

 

[DeloresRose]

So the smaller the ohm the larger the holes?
If the Kroma kit does up to 75w with the different ohm coils will it also do the lower pg? Like, the one I have won't do the higher but will do the lower.......will a higher wattage do all of it? (does that make sense?) (a dvd won't play blue ray but a blue ray will play a dvd and br.....)

Yes, a high watt mod works fine at low watts - I ought to know, I have 200 w mods that have never been above 40 w lol. Better to have more power than you need than not enough.

 

[greek mule]

Yes with the Kroma or with Tigon you can do the low pg using the lower ohm coils.With the 1.6 ohm coil you can do the high pg.Kroma is a regulated device you adjust the wattage.

 

[Michelle Wolff]

Yes with the Kroma or with Tigon you can do the low pg using the lower ohm coils.With the 1.6 ohm coil you can do the high pg.Kroma is a regulated device you adjust the wattage.

It's starting to make more sense now.
The one I currently have has just one type of coil that it can use due to the low wattage. The ones you suggested have a higher wattage and can use different ohm coils based on what mix of pg/vg you have. Right?

 

[greek mule]

Exactly!Also here is a quote from an online retailer for your coil:
"Featuring a 0.8 Ohm Prism S coil pre-installed, we recommend using this with high PG eliquids of 50% and above for best performance".Innokin Endura T20-S Vape Starter Kit

 

[Michelle Wolff]

Exactly!Also here is a quote from an online retailer for your coil:
"Featuring a 0.8 Ohm Prism S coil pre-installed, we recommend using this with high PG eliquids of 50% and above for best performance".Innokin Endura T20-S Vape Starter Kit

LOL.............. see, I told you I was really new!

So how do I know which coil to use? What decides that?

 

[greek mule]

With what device?

 

[Michelle Wolff]

Sorry, with a new higher wattage device. I am just going to get the first one you suggested. If I get three different ohm coils.

 

[greek mule]

Kroma-a kit,ok.It takes the following coils:

• 1.6ohm Coil Use 50% PG and above to full PG
• MTL
• Kanthal
• Threadless
• Best at 10W-14W
• 0.8ohm Coil Use 50/50 pg/vg
• MTL
• Kanthal
• Threadless
• Best at 15W to 18W
• 0.5ohm Plexus Coil Use 50/50 pg/vg or higher vg up to 80vg/20pg
• MTL
• Mesh
• Z Coil Family
• Best at 14w to 19W

 

[Michelle Wolff]

Perfect!
Thank you so much for all your help. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer all my questions! I am sure I will be asking more in the future.

Michelle

 

[greek mule]

Do not hesitate to make questions as there are plenty of wonderful people here willing to help out.

 

[kashif]

Can anyone tell me what is ejuice stepping?

 

[jim_87]

Can anyone tell me what is ejuice stepping?

When you buy, or DIY juice, you let it sit for days to weeks or longer to let the flavors come out.

 

[jim_87]

Hi, I am new to vaping (coming from cigarettes) I ordered 4 juices at first and they all tasted great. So I went wild and ordered a bunch more from two different companies (different than the first) and none of them had flavor, zero flavor. That is how I found out about steeping. While I waited for those to steep, I ordered from the first company expecting them to have flavor since the first order did and they too have none. It has been 3 weeks and I have 20+ bottles of flavorless e-juice! What am I doing wrong?? It has become very boring to taste nothing and I am so disappointed that I am ready to toss them all!! I have read about vapers tongue and I don't believe that is it because when I go back to what little of the original order I have, they taste great.

BTW the steeping method I used is Shake daily and let sit in a dark cool place.

Also, what is the VG to PG ratio? High VG juices may have less flavor than the high PG juice. VG is more for clouds, PG is more for flavor.

Edit: I saw you use 70/30 mix. Maybe step up the PG.

 

[kashif]

When you buy, or DIY juice, you let it sit for days to weeks or longer to let the flavors come out.

Sorry I didn't understand. If a juice is sitting in its bottle for months already so why to let it rest?

 

[greek mule]

Good point.I don't think we vape them right after they were produced.

 

[vaper1960]

You have got good advice so far... one more tip (and a question) For "thicker" juices I just mix with some cheap tobacco flavor 50vg/50pg (It is also stronger 18mg nicotine to boost "weak" juices) You mentioned "washing the tank" (I assume with water) Do you mean the coil/wick part also? If so, you would have to dry it very well before using or you just be vaping water. That would explain no flavor.

 

[jim_87]

Sorry I didn't understand. If a juice is sitting in its bottle for months already so why to let it rest?

It can be done for pre-made juice, but it is more for DIY. I have done it with fresher pre-made juice and it made a difference.

 

[vaper1960]

A few more tips. Shake juice bottle before using (they may separate) Do a "dry hit" (draw air without pressing button) between vapes. Suck a little harder when you vape (I just realized this was something I was doing wrong) Wait a bit between vapes... let coil cool down. Stock up on coils (usually come in 5-packs) Some thicker/darker/sweeter juices clog coils. Stop buying different juices and save your money for a better device (then you will have your current one as a backup) Don't wait for battery to go too low... charge more often. Don't let tank go empty, and don't fill all the way either. I have learned all these things in 2 months... mostly from these forums. Search for BrotherBob's post with links for beginners... helped me so much! Oh yeah, turn off when not using!