What took you so long? Geez Frankster I've been telling you NLV for months!
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What took you so long? Geez Frankster I've been telling you NLV for months!
I know, I thought I had my juices down cold and then Vaperite's juices do not work in a carto, Dulcis was not as good as I thought, Honey flue from bwb has no hit at 24 mg. Vermillion premium blends are all the same. Right there in plain sight was nitelite and I did not see it. Even the juice I did not like from them works great in a carto, great th, great vapor and no steeping.
Then you add to the fact that the juice is .30 per ml. How can you beat this place. They put all other juice vendors to shame, based on my 5-tool-approach to juices which I know is correct. Vaperite has proven that to me. I have a carto going 3 days with no problems with nitelite. I could not even get 4 hours with Vaperite. That is overwhelming proof that I am correct. The same cartos...shame on Vaperite and their natural extracted tobacco. I am mad as hell with this vendor, I should ask for a refund and the cost of 20 cartos. Vape on and down with the establishment...lmao!
Because alot of ejuices suck is what she's saying...... and why are you a vendor in here anyway?
Don't you have some 0 (zero) crappy juices to mix anyway?
lol.
try hellington Dekang.....i never ever tried chineese liquids...only u.s made...and this tobacco is now a favorite of mine.
I like vaporheads...i love analog cigar and state express 555 from vaporrenu.com...and $8 bucks for 30ml...wtf right..u can't go wrong.
Also jooglersjuice ....get jooglers blend....is a favorite of mine......and JB3 from there too!
check out those juices...i think you will like em!
"Frankster, Frankster, Why does thou not listen? Go forth and order L-F."
tehehe, I couldn't help myself after seeing your post lol.
not everyone vapes their liquids in a carto. if someone likes a certain liquid, no reason to bash them. there are very few liquids i use on daily basis due to different reasons (cloggin, throat hit, vapor, wicking etc etc).
if the liquid clogs your carto in 4 hours, why should they close shop if someone else vapes/likes their liquids in a different setup? because they didnt work for you?
that being said, i can relate to the frustration in the liquid search. the only liquids i vape is sundance v2/bounty hunter/jooglers blend and some duelingbanjos.
if the liquid clogs your carto in 4 hours, why should they close shop if someone else vapes/likes their liquids in a different setup? because they didnt work for you?
that being said, i can relate to the frustration in the liquid search. the only liquids i vape is sundance v2/bounty hunter/jooglers blend and some duelingbanjos.
Hello there, I never said that the vaperite juice clogs my cartos. What I said was that the juice is too thin and destroys the cartos. If a vendor sells a juice that only last 4 hours in a carto, then they should not sell that juice, especially when they state on their website that you should use a carto.
It does not make a difference what the setup is...the juice does not work! I lost money on the juice, the shipping and the cartos, I figure they owe me at least 100 dollars, not to mention the aggravation it caused me because I blamed it all on the cartos. I used 3 different types of cartos and they all failed. They should close down or make a juice that is vapable in a carto.
They are at fault, not I...if they cannot fix the problem, they should make the juice thicker or do not sell the juice. I will continue to tell people not to purchase their juice, they are not to be recommended by anyone no matter how good the juice taste. Very bad business management. Fix it or close down!
"Frankster, Frankster, Why does thou not listen? Go forth and order L-F."
tehehe, I couldn't help myself after seeing your post lol.
What does LF stand for?...just curious
Liberty-Flights. They were the first ry4 juice I bought and I've never found anything I liked better.
3, maybe even 4 cartos, sure...but 20?! You really just kept feeding and burning up 20 cartos?!
Your directness I appreciate and everyone is entitled to opinions...especially when flavor in anything can differ so completely from one person to the next (case and point, some people actually LIKE brussel sprouts, which smell like urine and taste as I imagine it might). You dont bash others for liking or disliking and call it the way you see it, so I say rock on...but I have to say I strongly question your learning speed here Frank! What was the thought around 10 or 12? 'hey, maybe if I condom fill this one....aww, dammit! OK, I got it...I'll wait until dark on this one...crap! Maybe if I face North...!"
If you request that $100 refund, please, please, please share their response...we could all use a 'lmao' !
Rock on...
You might be right that I should have realized after 10, but I had other juices going at the same time and I only had a new batch of cartos. I was not sure what was happening because I sometimes top off 2 juices in the same carto when I am bored. But when I only had 3 Vaperite juices left, my cartos went down one after another.
This has nothing to do with taste in juices or how well a juice works in a carto. This has to do with a juice that just does not work at all in a carto. The filler of the carto cannot contain this juice. It goes right through it and that is the vendor's fault. I deserve my money back and the money for the cartos. I think your argument is not valid.
Let's get one thing perfectly clear that everyone always misinterprets. I am not talking about subjectivity here, I am talking about fact...there is a big difference and people keep insisting that this is about preference, it is not. The juice does not work and vaperite should fix this problem or stop selling the juice. I should bash a vendor for selling water...I am not on this forum to be liked, I am to talk about my experiences and most are bad.
Also, this is the first forum where members are more for the sellers of a product than for the people who buy it. This product is no different than any other and it should be treated that way.
I just requested a 100 dollar refund from Vaperite...I will let everyone know what the response is.
It was always my understanding that naturally extracted tobaccos suck in cartos anyway... as do thicker and darker liquids...
It's true about standing up for sellers etc... a big reason is because most of us have positive experiences with them or personal relationships... etc... I remember vaperite when they opened their doors...
how todd expressed rushed me liquid before I went on vacation... at his cost... how he took care of my friends... tweaked recipes for me... it's tough not to root for folks when they include you in their success...
I do feel your frustration with this issue frank... and you/buyers can't be expected to dig up the past threads about the sucky performance of certain equipment with certain kinds of liquids...
Sellers could be more proactive/informative about how their juices work in cartos... or at certain voltages...
but... frank... this is somewhat different... and I am glad it is...
this is a new and evolving industry... with a lot of entrepreneurial activity...
one where the buyers can get actively involved with sellers.
expecting the industry standard you suggest isn't possible... or... it isn't realistic or likely... perhaps your voice will improve it... but you'll just end up frustrating yourself to death wanting for something that will never happen...
you simply need to be more skeptical and more aware of who has what you like...
...and open to the "fact" that some people don't have the same problems... I have no idea how anyone can like certain things I hate... but they always do...
lastly... cartos suck... period... ;-)
It's true about standing up for sellers etc... a big reason is because most of us have positive experiences with them or personal relationships... etc... I remember vaperite when they opened their doors...
how todd expressed rushed me liquid before I went on vacation... at his cost... how he took care of my friends... tweaked recipes for me... it's tough not to root for folks when they include you in their success...
I do feel your frustration with this issue frank... and you/buyers can't be expected to dig up the past threads about the sucky performance of certain equipment with certain kinds of liquids...
Sellers could be more proactive/informative about how their juices work in cartos... or at certain voltages...
but... frank... this is somewhat different... and I am glad it is...
this is a new and evolving industry... with a lot of entrepreneurial activity...
one where the buyers can get actively involved with sellers.
expecting the industry standard you suggest isn't possible... or... it isn't realistic or likely... perhaps your voice will improve it... but you'll just end up frustrating yourself to death wanting for something that will never happen...
you simply need to be more skeptical and more aware of who has what you like...
...and open to the "fact" that some people don't have the same problems... I have no idea how anyone can like certain things I hate... but they always do...
lastly... cartos suck... period... ;-)
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I do not agree with everything you have just stated. If you look at their website...right under the vr4 70/30, it states to use this juice, vr4 in this case to use it in a carto. That alone makes my argument valid. Also, the fact that many vapers have personal relationships with vendors will at times not give the consumer the real deal about a juice. I know I would not bash a juice made by a friend of mine.
This questions almost every review of a juice out there in Vapeland. I still have 15ml of vr4 and I will not there use it. I have a carto running full force for a week with 4 juices fron NITELITE. How do you explain that?
Frankster, you floor me. Don't you get it that these are Mom & Pop businesses?
I get that...I have no problem with that...they still have to be held responsible for selling an inferior product. If you ever diyd, you would have an idea of the markup these people are working on...They are making good money, I wish I was selling juice to vapers...lol
If I had a lemonade stand on the corner, my customers would hold me accountable for a lousy lemonade...We all need to stop feeling sorry for these people when they are making a nice profit from us. All I want is a juice that can work in a carto for at least 3 days. If the juice taste bad, that is my problem, but if the juice cannot work in a carto, then that is the vendor's problem. I have a valid argument.
I will give you an example... The guy selling hotdogs on the corner that everyone feels sorry for is making about $2000 per week tax free. I bet most people never thought that...lmao...I know this for a fact. " beware of Greeks bearing gifts" that phrase tells the entire story...vape on baby!
I know, but I have no intention of dripping ever or using a tank so it is a carto or nothing at all. The vendor actually has it posted on his site to use a carto with the juice...that is what amazes me the most.
I will still give you 4 max before I call 'duh'...one each of the three brands and a second on any! For me, if a bunch had been working fine and I was down to one juice and I suddenly popped two...maybe three cartos I'm pretty sure it would have been 'Houston, we have a problem!"
No argument...if a vendor recommends usage in a carto, it should work in a carto. My question would be how many could you reasonably blame them for. There must be a ton of others with the same gripe if VR liquid is immediately burning all cartos...whats been done by/for all of them?
Easy killer...there was no misinterpretation. My comments regarding taste and subjectivity were in regard to the original content, intent, and majority of this thread which was preferences, flavor profile, opinions, faves vs tasting like vomit, etc...not your VR issue.
Any product should bear scrutiny, esp if its primary advertising is a forum...however I disagree the majority forum benefit is vendor. While there are an abundance of vendor specific and Fanboy threads, even those benefit members from info to access to promos etc. If a vendor has great products or service, by all means talk it up as thats valuable to us too. Even discussions of every single aspect of product 'X' still educates a member thats searching and reading and allows us to discern if something fits our likes or needs. The problem comes with the occasional tendency for mob replies if someone dislikes 'X' but in general there are plenty of con discussions on virtually everything and so long as people are respectful and dont resort to juvenile flaming and name calling its allowed and valuable. Hell, there are entire forums for voicing vendor issues. What tends to get overlooked as it is not sensational is the volumes of posts and threads and forums of nothing but questions and suggestions, tips and tricks, mods, classifieds, deals and steals that all completely benefit the members. I know thats what convinced me to try vaping, how I successfully quit analogs from the get go by buying eqpt that worked, saved a ton of money, found good cartos or liquids, avoided bad, etc. This thread is case and point to all of the above... from ranking faves, to saying a juice is "like a well worn jockstrap smells in a sweaty locker room at 200 degrees" (Hairball, I dont even want to know how you know this!) to you ripping on VR...it does benefit the members, nobody shut it down and other than my having some fun at your expense and some valid counter points being made, you have been free to share your opinions and experiences.
This might come as quite a surprise, but often the Mom&Pop type businesses are making a LOT more money than an average size business, way, way less overheads, tax rebates and lots of creative ways to cash in the $$ by working in their garage or whatever and getting their teenagers to help unsupervised and what not.
Yes, I actually read about the teenagers somewhere here on ECF.
I agree with Frankster on one point. If I spend MY hard earned dollars,and a vendor sells me rubbish... Well hello, I want it fixed or my money back, (I am not a charity) and won't go away quietly tail between my legs just because they work from home UNREGULATED and making millions
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