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Most local shops know what compares to local flavors of cigarettes. Online they mostly compare to national brands. In NY most people haven't smoked a national brand in a decade. Finding a flavor thats very close helps at first, at least for me it did.

I had ZERO interest in flavors. But then suddenly I did.

Then I found flavors I LOVED!!! Oh dear god how wonderful. Cigarettes are gone for good.

I'd be puffing along on some high nic magic juice with no cigarette taste what so ever and just like that I'd want a cigarette. Guessing some part of the brain puts the taste and the effect together and sometimes can't make the jump.

So I started filling a tank with a juice that tasted like what I smoked plus a "happy tank".

For a good while I'd hit the cigarette tank then the flavored tank. And that ended the cravings and I could move forward.

Now I haven't had a tobacco juice in a long while.

vaping, like life, is a journey not a destination.

I get that same hankering now and then, even though I already passed the point months ago that the stuff I used initially just tastes like total crap to me now, almost as bad as the actual cigarettes would. So I started mixing up this DIY I call "Smocha" -- coffee, tobacco, tobacco absolute, some chocolate, some vanilla, and a tiny bit of sweetener -- it's far enough from the taste of my cigarettes that it doesn't taste BAD to me... but it's close enough to tobacco flavor that after meals, it really hits the spot -- kind of a cross between an after dinner smoke and after dinner cup of coffee. :D But after about 5-6 hits... I go back to strawberries and cream. :D

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For me smoking (and I'm sure for most people) was not only getting my nicotine fix. It's the whole experience: inhaling/exhaling, the throat hit, the taste, the nicotine and (I'm taking a risk here) the whole oral fixation. At first I bought an inexpensive, disposable ecig and even though I was getting my nicotine fix and the whole inhale/exhale, I was still missing the satisfaction of a dense smoke, the tobacco flavor and the throat hit. I figured that I'd address this issue by finding a better atomizer/mod combo and a tobacco flavor ejuice. That did the trick. As a matter of fact, I started with 12mg nicotine and had to lower it to 3-6mg once I got the right device. From there, trying new (non-tobacco) flavors was surprisingly easy.

So my advice is when you are vaping your ecig take a min to figure out what you feel you're missing and address that issue. Sometime a simple change in nicotine level or pg/vg blend will do the trick. Other times a better device will be needed instead. Whatever the change/fix is I just consider it a long time financial investment, but most importantly, an immediate, short and long time investment in your health.
 
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Great thread, was wondering the same about the lungs...just started vaping about a month ago(istick 30/aspire nautilus), last 2wks 0 smokes!! Feeling awesome!! Talked my friend in to gettin one, he got the same setup with 12mg nic...he's gone from 2 PAD to just 5 smokes a day and can't believe it!!

I love hearing stories like this. Vapers unite and help each other out.
 
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(Update) so I've started holding the smoke in a bit longer and I always end up coughing followed by a bit of wheezing for like 30 seconds. Is that normal? PS. I'm down to a few puffs of a cigarette a day. Great seeing as I used to smoke every hour. I got a new flavor of watermelon. Totally not what I expected. Haha not bad though! I want dragon fruit, is there good online stores that may stock this in 12? 18mg seems like to much for me after vaping it for a few days. I get a weird numbing when I French inhale it. I figured out I'm chasing the light headed feeling I get when I don't smoke a cig for a while.
 

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The mental hurdle is the toughest part to get over. You just have to stick it out and even though you still crave a cigarette try not to smoke one. I had a few times where I had decided I wouldn't smoke but would find myself chain vaping like a mad man to get over the craving. One of the nice things about vaping is that it is also a hobby, spend some time learning to build your own coils or making your own juice, that way you are more invested in your vaping.
 
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Chain away. It is not a cig. Over time I have found that I have different nic level juices hiding in the back of the cabinet. I do what i need, life gets better.

One thing that helps is that medically and socially it is really bad. I can smell a stinky smoker a mile away, I understand, but I can still smell it.
 
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I found that I needed an authentic cig flavored juice. The one I found was Clayton tobacco flavor. 12 mg and it is found in tobacco shops and gas n gos. They have a store locator on their website.
Buck Naked American tobacco is also a decent authentic flavor.

Hang in ther you will make it. I did, but it was not easy and I still crave cigs from time to time 5 months later.
I then pull out the Evod filled with tobacco flavor.
 

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I've been vaping for over a year now. I prefer it to smoking a ciggy. you gotta get the right balance. I use a kanger sub tank mini on an eleaf 50watt. my go to juice is Looper by ANML at 12mg nic. To me that setup is the complete equivalent to smoking a cigarette or better. I have tried probably more than 200 different e liquids and out of all of those I enjoyed about 30 of them. I vape at 30 watts. I had the same problem as you to start with. The moment I tried vaping with a sub tank is the moment I was sold on the idea of vaping. You get massive clouds tons of vapor and a great lung hit.
 

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It took about a month for me to make the total switch. I made it a game, to see how many I could substitute vaping for, and I kept a tally of how many I smoked each day, and tried to smoke less the next day. When I was down to less than 5 a day, they started tasting like the devil's rear end, just NASTY, and hardly any throat hit compared to my vape, so I finally just figured, why bother? and just vaped. But the important thing was, no pressure -- pressure just made me want to smoke! :D

But you might need higher nic strength; a lot do.

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It could also be the way you're inhaling the vapor. You don't inhale it the same way you do a cigarette. With a cigarette it's a short, hard puff, deep inhale; with e-cigs, it's a long, slow, easy pull, then let it linger in mouth and throat for a bit before inhaling (or even instead of inhaling), then slowly exhale via nose, or nose and mouth. In vapor, the nicotine absorbs better in the soft tissues of mouth, throat, and nose, rather than in the lungs. With cigarette smoke, the combustion particles in the smoke are so fine, nicotine absorbs better in the lungs.

When I realized I was trying to vape the same way I smoked, but was still having to go out for that "first smoke of the day" (the only one I smoked, for the last 3 days I smoked), I started paying attention to inhaling more slowly with vapor, and that night, while practicing those long, slow inhales, I managed to get so much nicotine into myself, I got the sharp stomach pains -- and I was vaping 6mg. The next morning, instead of running right out to get that first smoke, I vaped, doing the long, slow inhales, nose exhales -- and that was my first smoke-free day.

Cigarette satisfaction is immediate; the satisfaction with vaping takes longer, 5-15 minutes. But if you can make yourself slow down and take your time, you get every bit as much satisfaction from vaping.

Andria

Right on point, Andria. Vaping is very like pipe-smoking in that respect. You take your time and savour it :)
 

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You might try a NET, naturally extracted tobacco. I was having a bad cravings for a smoke a couple of months ago and then happened upon them. I always have at least one bottle handy all the time. Right now Raven's Cut is my favorite brand and reasonably priced. And if you're a ex-menthol smoker their dark Turkish ice is awesome.

RAVEN'S CUT | Naturally Extracted Tobacco | E Liquid
 
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Nothing new in this post, but I just want to "second" a few things mentioned by others:
1. Learn to vape in a way that works for you. I started vaping and I burnt coil heads, got terrible flavor, and coughed like mad. Then I slowed it down. Think pipe, not cig. Slow and long draws. Try "slip-streaming", which is loosening your lips on the tip and drawing in some room air with your vape. Changes the flavor and feel. Might not be your bag, but that brings me to...

2. It's a journey. Especially for me in the first month or two, nothing was quote right, but so many things were great. What was great, however, could change from day to day. High ohm. Low ohm. Tobacco juice. Anything but tobacco juice. Tight draw. Loose draw. Explore it all and try to avoid the "this ain't working" mindset, even when it doesn't completely kill the urge to smoke.
3. Look into WTAs. I have no experience with them, but they seem to help a sizable chunk of people find that feeling that they are chasing.

4. Vaping delivers the nicotine in a less dramatic way for your body and brain. Don't vape when you're jonesing. Vape before you need a smoke. I found that I had to stay ahead of that wave, so to speak. Once I got behind it, vaping would not catch me up. I learned to vape more often than I would have smoked to keep that nic level up to a pint that I could avoid the harsh craves.

Also, I found it really helpful to continue the "break" aspect of getting my nicotine, even after I was vape only. If you went out to the porch with your coffee and a cig, go out there with your vape. For some folks, those little pieces of time carved out of the day are crucial.

And remember, Your Mileage May Vary as far as juice, gear, habits. For example, you may find that going out to the porch with your vape just reminds you that you are missing a cig. Don't get down if you try something that someone else swears by and it doesn't work for you.

Finally... Count the cigs you aren't smoking.
 
Nothing new in this post, but I just want to "second" a few things mentioned by others:
1. Learn to vape in a way that works for you. I started vaping and I burnt coil heads, got terrible flavor, and coughed like mad. Then I slowed it down. Think pipe, not cig. Slow and long draws. Try "slip-streaming", which is loosening your lips on the tip and drawing in some room air with your vape. Changes the flavor and feel. Might not be your bag, but that brings me to...

2. It's a journey. Especially for me in the first month or two, nothing was quote right, but so many things were great. What was great, however, could change from day to day. High ohm. Low ohm. Tobacco juice. Anything but tobacco juice. Tight draw. Loose draw. Explore it all and try to avoid the "this ain't working" mindset, even when it doesn't completely kill the urge to smoke.
3. Look into WTAs. I have no experience with them, but they seem to help a sizable chunk of people find that feeling that they are chasing.

4. Vaping delivers the nicotine in a less dramatic way for your body and brain. Don't vape when you're jonesing. Vape before you need a smoke. I found that I had to stay ahead of that wave, so to speak. Once I got behind it, vaping would not catch me up. I learned to vape more often than I would have smoked to keep that nic level up to a pint that I could avoid the harsh craves.

Also, I found it really helpful to continue the "break" aspect of getting my nicotine, even after I was vape only. If you went out to the porch with your coffee and a cig, go out there with your vape. For some folks, those little pieces of time carved out of the day are crucial.

And remember, Your Mileage May Vary as far as juice, gear, habits. For example, you may find that going out to the porch with your vape just reminds you that you are missing a cig. Don't get down if you try something that someone else swears by and it doesn't work for you.

Finally... Count the cigs you aren't smoking.

Great post. And don't forget to count the money you're saving and the years that will probably be added to your life.
 

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I have vaped Peach Rings, Razzle Dazzle, Apple Rings, Mango, TNT, Monster Melons, Grape, Banana, Unicorn Milk (disgusting), Heathen, and a few other ones I can't seem to remember at the moment. Most of which were good in taste but I always find myself still craving a cigarette. I want to quit because I hate smelling like an ashtray. I vape 12mg nic. Is it the throat hit? The tobacco taste? Would a tobacco e juice still have me smelling like an ashtray?
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Tobacco flavor won't make you smell like an ashtray at all. If you're continuously craving like a lot of other posters here have said, you may need a higher nicotine level try a 24 or18 to start. Good luck on getting rid of the cancer sticks we're all rooting for you
 

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3. Look into WTAs. I have no experience with them, but they seem to help a sizable chunk of people find that feeling that they are chasing.

I don't find it makes me feel any particular way, as cigarettes did not. What WTA does, is keep me from godawful bone-deep cravings. And it kept me from getting depressed at the 3wk and 3mo points. Been cutting back 1 percentage pt a month, since the first of the year, from the original 10% of my ejuice; just about finished with 5% now, heading for 4% first of June; should be done with it by the end of September. Anyone who's having such awful cravings that you're thinking seriously of smoking, try WTA first; it might totally wipe out the craving, as it did for me. It won't do a single thing for psychological addiction, though.

Andria
 

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I had the same problem as you before. I loved vaping and it curbed most of my cravings for analogs. But I just couldn't kick the cig in the morning and after a meal. I felt like I needed something that hits a bit harder than a vape.

I then decided to get an eroll (cig a like) and load it with a high nicotine juice (24mg-36mg) to kill those particular cravings. Now I use my eroll for those times I used to crave a cig and vape my Regulated mod all the other times. So far so good!
 
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