Just had my first every battery death .... AW IMR 18350

[Big Hitter]

I'm vaping away on my VV Woodvil with the atty crackling like always. Pretty fresh batts in there and all the sudden the vape goes really really anemic .... Hmmm

I pull the batts out to check with my "doohicky" and first one reads 3.78 .... second one .... Nothing ....

Zero .... Zilch ..... it was still able to pass some current through though must be because I was still getting a very weak vape.

First time in almost 3 years of vaping I've had an AW fail on me.

I always check them every time before and after charging and it was fine when I put it in the charged and ready rack.

They are about 4 months old but get used a lot. I still have 9 more from the same order but I'll be keeping and even closer eye on them.

Thank goodness it failed in a very non-spectacular fashion though ... whew !

Anyone every have one go from working to reading zero just like that ????

 

[nerak]

I had one of my AW 18350 die on me. It was bought new and lasted only a couple of months. I was not putting them in and switching top and bottom each time. In fact I was using 4 of them and only lost one. Not checking voltage each time after charging or using.

I do notice a small difference when they come out of the VV. But they will come off the charger the same.

 

[Idaholandho]

Ello,
As I cycle my batteries with a formidable case of OCD, I had a battery reading after charge right at dead as hell on my mm. The battery would not even charge on my charger.
It is a 7 month old 18350, so for the fun of it put it in the refer for a day, pulled it out, charged it and BOOM! the battery is back in line.
May be a fluke or luck and I cant explain it but, it worked.

 

[Big Hitter]

Ello,
As I cycle my batteries with a formidable case of OCD, I had a battery reading after charge right at dead as hell on my mm. The battery would not even charge on my charger.
It is a 7 month old 18350, so for the fun of it put it in the refer for a day, pulled it out, charged it and BOOM! the battery is back in line.
May be a fluke or luck and I cant explain it but, it worked.

I'm not even going to try that ...... Once it read dead for me its out of here ...... not worth risking trouble.

 

[FeistyAlice]

I've had a couple or three 18350s bite the dust early, after only a few months. They were one each of matched pairs. I number and letter and date each battery, always keep pairs together. They get stored in a bin so newly charged batteries go to back and next to be used roll to front. Rather than keep up with a and b positions I change out positions of battery in REO every couple ml of juice. I normally have no less than six pairs in rotation. And I always have one or more mechanicals going at same time so paired sets are not used as heavily as if I was using only VV.

I've been using AW IMR 18350 since VV Woodvils came out and I've retired (recycled) the oldest as they get weak. (Most usually one in a set just peters out really fast under load.) The oldest in my bin are dated 4/12.

AW IMR 18350 are the only of that label where I've gotten duds. All of my REO batteries are AW except for some Panasonic 18650s.

I just looked at my batteries. I have one pair that has one battery 10/12 and one 12/12. They came from pairs that each had a dud. Seems like there were two other sets in early 2012 that each had a dud. I chucked both batteries in sets but for the late 2012 sets I saved the good ones to match up with other good ones from dud sets as long as they were pretty close in use age. Also in battery bin is a 4/12 set to be recycled (recycle bin). The ones in VVG I'm using at moment are 4/12. They should be showing age very soon. Maybe they are and I'd take note more readily if I used it exclusively.

Feisty Alice

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[Idaholandho]

I'm not even going to try that ...... Once it read dead for me its out of here ...... not worth risking trouble.

Couldnt agree more with you. Honestly, if I would of given it half a thought, I should of done that. The only reason I did that is that it was holding the slightest of charge. It has now been a few months and the battery still comes off the charger fully charged and works like a champ.
Although, I do keep notes (purchase dates), mark my batteries to keep them in correct cycle order and test them all, maybe I should of taken safety in mind.

thanks for the reminder

 

[rc10mike]

Funny I see this thread today. Just had one of my new AW 18350s die two days ago. Was reading .5v. Its funny because my first set of 4 are over a year old and still work pretty good. I guess I had a dud too..

 

[whatitstrue]

2 duds for me as well 18350's that were only a few months old from around Sept. Of last year. My older ones are fine. All other size aw's have never had an issue.

 

[darkzero]

Not uncommon for AWs to die as with any others. I've had a fair share of AWs die from flashlight use. Take care of them meticulously & they will give you good life. Just the slightest neglect & they will take much offense to that.

 

[FeistyAlice]

Not uncommon for AWs to die as with any others. I've had a fair share of AWs die from flashlight use. Take care of them meticulously & they will give you good life. Just the slightest neglect & they will take much offense to that.

I most usually take very good care of batteries. I'll have to say, though, that I've found a few that DH "misplaced" for months either in charged state (not bad) or discharged (terrible) but none of them were 18350s. The two duds in my most recent memory late 2012 were never right from the start. That was probably same for late 2011 duds.

Feisty Alice

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[Big Hitter]

Well an update kind of ...... after dead batt sat all night I decided to check it while sitting here.
It now gets my meter to flicker and read 2.08-ish.

Its going to the recycle bin at the front of Staples next time I'm there.

 

[darkzero]

I most usually take very good care of batteries. I'll have to say, though, that I've found a few that DH "misplaced" for months either in charged state (not bad) or discharged (terrible) but none of them were 18350s. The two duds in my most recent memory late 2012 were never right from the start. That was probably same for late 2011 duds.

Feisty Alice

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If you have cells that you know you will not be using for a long period of time, it's best to store them around 3.7-3.8v instead of fully charged. My hobby charger even has a setting for charging cells to be stored. No idea what the downside is ti storing them with a full charge. I have done that though. What really damages tbe cells are when they are discharged well past 3v & left like that. I have a habit or charging cells immediately once the get to 3.6v but that's probably exceessive. On the cells I use normally when they hit 3.7v I swap in a fresh one but that's just for performance reasons.

 

[FeistyAlice]

If you have cells that you know you will not be using for a long period of time, it's best to store them around 3.7-3.8v instead of fully charged. My hobby charger even has a setting for charging cells to be stored. No idea what the downside is ti storing them with a full charge. I have done that though. What really damages tbe cells are when they are discharged well past 3v & left like that. I have a habit or charging cells immediately once the get to 3.6v but that's probably exceessive. On the cells I use normally when they hit 3.7v I swap in a fresh one but that's just for performance reasons.

Yeah, I believe about storing not fully charged but can't explain. I most usually pull most out by 3.7; just habit. Let them rest hours to a day, charge, then to back of line. Most of the time pull double 18350s out prior to 3.7. Again just habit.

Unless you have a charger with set storage cutoffs or digital readouts it's really hard to limit the charge.

On one set of the 2011 duds I may have possibly used one in set by itself in a tube mod a few times. NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!! KEEP SETS TOGETHER AND USE ONLY TOGETHER.

Feisty Alice

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