The stuff we have in our brain is identical to thc. We need it. We need it to manage pain and we need it to stimulate our appetite among other things. That is why marijuana is now an FDA approved medicine in the form of Marinol and a couple other trade names.
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The stuff we have in our brain is identical to thc. We need it. We need it to manage pain and we need it to stimulate our appetite among other things. That is why marijuana is now an FDA approved medicine in the form of Marinol and a couple other trade names.
Well exactly. That is what it is all about isnt it? Money. Its not about what is safe or scientifically proven to be beneficial. The FDA couldnt care less. In fact it makes its money from things not being safe. That is what gets you to the doctors to buy pills. The pharma companies make money the FDA makes money and the doctors make money.
Exactly. And you still have a right to self medicate yourself without government or pharmaceutical intervention.
In an earlier post, I noted a link to a chemical company and how they extract nicotine for pharmaceutical grade nicotine. IT WAS HORRIFYING! What ever happened to simple extraction with no chemicals? Sure, the effects might not be as strong, but who says that I can't go that route?
This also comes down to a debate over Eastern vs. Western medicine practices. Why do you think that insurance companies don't cover trips to non-Western medical facilities? Accupuncture being one of those not covered on many plans.
Cigarettes, at the end of the day - according to US courts are lethal weapons whose victims get paid huge settlements. Those $ettlements represent the price of admission for the tobacco companies to kill more people a day than all the gun fatalities put together.
Let's get away from the apples to oranges comparisons.
The device we love and promote was conceived as a whole different animal. It is the "harm reduction program".
Not much has to change, just repaint some racing cars with e-cigs logos.
Let's get away from the apples to oranges comparisons.
The device we love and promote was conceived as a whole different animal. It is the "harm reduction program".
Not much has to change, just repaint some racing cars with e-cigs logos.
Again, no. LOW doses of pharmaceutical grade .... are sometimes, but RARELY prescribed for ADD. Most ADD medications are dextroamphetamine sulfate, or methylphenidate, which may sound similar, but aren't the same.
So basically if the FDA says you can do the drug you can do the drug except when you want to do the drug that the FDA has said you can do but you dont get permission to do it first? That is just too much of a communistic government for my liking. I mean think about it. Nicotine is FDA approved to stop smoking, PG is FDA approved, and the flavorings are food grade. So individually they are okay. You can chew nicotine gum you can buy it right over the counter now without a perscription. You can get all the PG you want and its real cheap. You can get all the flavorings you want. Yet supposedly you cant combine all three together and vaporize them?? That makes no sense whatsoever.
No, what we have in our brains are ENDOcannabinoids. They are SIMILAR, but not IDENTICAL, to the PHYTOcannabinoids that are found in cannabis. Cannabis affects us the way it does because we have neurochemicals similar to them. But they aren't the same.
EDIT: Oops, forgot the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoids#Endocannabinoids
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I mean opium barbituates speed and now marijuana are all FDA approved in some form or another. They call it by different names and the pharma companies manufacture them and sell them but you can only use them if you have permission to from a doctor. So if that is the case then why cant you just medicate yourself with these things?
I mean if the FDA has said they are safe then they must be safe.... right? That would mean they are safe enough to use. So why do we have to permission before we use them? I mean abuse issues aside either they are safe or they arent so which is it?
AH, I thought you meant it was hypocritical of the FDA in particular. I agree it is appears hypocritical if you view the government as one whole entity. But in this case, I see it more as a case of different entities with different agendas, which isn't hypocritical.
Too much sugar can cause harm. It is still a normal part of our metabolism, and thus not a drug. And we define necessary as that without which we will die, like food or oxygen. It's really very simple.
Not much has to change, just repaint some racing cars with e-cigs logos.[/quote]
When are you guys going to step away from the term "electronic cigarette"!!! We will never be able to change perceptions using that term! When I explain the device to non-tobacco users, I call it what it is, an electronic vaporizer and make a comparison to vaporizers used in a bedroom when some has a cold. You supplers need to give this some thought!
When are you guys going to step away from the term "electronic cigarette"!!! We will never be able to change perceptions using that term! When I explain the device to non-tobacco users, I call it what it is, an electronic vaporizer and make a comparison to vaporizers used in a bedroom when some has a cold. You supplers need to give this some thought!
What is funny is that speed has been found to have beneficial properties so its regulated, opium has been found to have beneficial properties so its regulated, barbituates have been found to have beneficial properties so its regulated, marijuana has been found to have beneficial properties so its regulated, nicotine has been found to have beneficial properties so now they are trying to regulate it but alcohol has no beneficial properties whatsoever and you can drink all of that you want to.
PRINCETON, N.J. -- It's a common refrain: "I'm addicted to sugar." Now a study by Princeton University psychologists suggests that such urges really may be a form of addiction, sharing some of the physiological characteristics of drug dependence.
Although the term "sugar addiction" often appears in magazines and on television, scientists had not demonstrated that such a thing as sugar dependency really exists, said neuroscientist Bart Hoebel, who led the study. Hoebel and colleagues studied rats that were induced to binge on sugar and found that they exhibited telltale signs of withdrawal, including "the shakes" and changes in brain chemistry, when the effects of the sweets were blocked. These signs are similar to those produced by drug withdrawal.
Still not a drug. And once again, the key word is SIMILAR. Similar is not the same. Water and Hydrogen Peroxinde are similar.
Well then maybe you can explain to me why marijuana works so well has limited side effects that are not harmful at all and no withdrawl symptoms where as sugar causes all manner of deadly disease and has withdrawl symptoms that are identical to the withdrawl symptoms from drugs.
The problem with marijuana or any mind and mood altering drug is not so much the physical harm but rather the psychological effects it has in long term use. After a person uses a substance like this for several weeks their brain waves start to change and this causes the person to think, act and react in slightly different ways. The "new personality" created in this way often leads the person to make different choices then they would normally. With .... use people deprive their self of sleep and loose higher brain function. People don't function well after staying awake for long periods of time. After stopping use of marijuana brain wave studies show that a persons chartings will return to previous readings after around 60 days, with .... use it can take up to 90 days or more before you begin to think and act exactly as you did before use.
I see people every day who come up with every excuse in the book to justify their drug use. The simple fact is that you don't need one. You make your choice to use because you want to get high and that's all. The sooner a person can admit that, the better off they are and they can stop hiding behind all those lame excuses. Rationalizations and justifications just allow a person to keep using and not have to face any guilt or shame about what they are doing.
I have had people tell me that "they" should be allowed to drink and drive because they drive better after a couple drinks. Can you imagine?
How would you feel if the pilot of the 747 you were on announced that this was his 16th straight flight and we will take off as soon as the co-pilot arrived with another 8-ball.
Vince.cadc (Certified Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselor)
I see people every day who come up with every excuse in the book to justify their drug use. The simple fact is that you don't need one. You make your choice to use because you want to get high and that's all. The sooner a person can admit that, the better off they are and they can stop hiding behind all those lame excuses. Rationalizations and justifications just allow a person to keep using and not have to face any guilt or shame about what they are doing.
I have had people tell me that "they" should be allowed to drink and drive because they drive better after a couple drinks. Can you imagine?
How would you feel if the pilot of the 747 you were on announced that this was his 16th straight flight and we will take off as soon as the co-pilot arrived with another 8-ball.
Vince.cadc (Certified Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselor)
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I have no problem with anybody using marijuana what so ever, it is a personal choice. Quite a few of my friends smoke it but i choose not to as i do not enjoy the feelings, yes i did try it during college but even then it gave me severe paranoia.
Yes i partly agree with you in the fact that natural marijuana has mostly tempory side effects but cannot say the same about the GM stuff that is about now, some of these versions can cause quite severe psychosis with long term use. My biggest issue with marijuana is not that though but the fact that certain friends of mine mentioning no names lol plan to do all of these things with me then after a joint all of these things never happen lol they just cannot be bothered and would rather sit indoors playing computer games and ordering a pizza
Cheers Lee.
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