Just started Vaping and have a simple question....I think

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KY_Noob

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So Just started vaping this weekend with a Joye 510 with the manual battery. The kit had some juice cartridges already in it. I did not have an option to buy juice bottles from the local retailer and he only had menthol cartridges...not my thing. So I went online and ordered some juices I think I will like. In the meantime, however, I am disappointed with what I am experiencing. The menthol isn't bad tasting, but the vapor amount is hideous and not getting much of a nic hit. I quit my cloves completely and I'm definitely having nic withdrawls right now. I am wondering if the cartridges were very low dose and low quality in the first place. They seem to dry up quickly. When I first put them on I notice a better vapor production but it dies out very quickly after like 5 draws. Please let me know the issues I am having are likely due to poor quality juices in a starter kit.....lol. I've decided to fill my own carts using the blue sponge or tea bag mod. Ordered the 36 mg juices from Want2vape, so just can't wait till they get here. I hope that will provide better results.
 

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A cartomizer is a cartridge and atty combined. You can buy a 5 pack for anywhere from $6-$8. They are disposable, but they can be refilled numerous times. They hold about 1 ml of juice. The only problem is, once you put juice in you're committed. So I'd try out new juices with the cartridge & atty.

A cartridge can be cleaned out and reused numerous times. But they don't hold as much as a cartomizer. Some people say you get better flavor with a cartridge. I personally don't care, they're too much of a mess to keep filling. JMO.
 

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Sorry about the withdrawl. If you pull too hard on a 510 the atomizer will dry up the filler in the cartridge faster than it can re-charge. Hope you ordered your juice from some outfit that ships fast, like FSUSA. I did the same thing when I bought my first kit, started bouncing off the walls until I received my juice. PV'S will not perform as fast as the stinking analogs, just take a soft 5 second drag then put it down for 3 minutes so that the juice wicks its way back to the top of the filler. For that reason I bought an eGo-T where it's nearly impossible to dry the wick. I puff on mine like a pipe smoker.
 

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Carts can be refilled and cleaned and restuffed when needed and used some more. And cartos can be refilled some number of times if you keep them damp with juice. If you don;t fill them fully and properly to start with or if you run them dry you can singe the stuffing and cut their life short. I can get 2 weeks out of a Boge cartomizer for 510. And you need the standard resistance ones for 510, not the ones that say LR (low resistance) or HV (high voltage). Some other kinds of cartos do not last as well. And I recommend fairly thin juices for cartos like 70pg/30vg or 80pg/20vg. If you have thick juice you may have to thin it with distilled water.

And 36mg - really? I think that may be too high. There is a reason most vendors don't sell it. If you get headache, lightheaded, rapid or irregular heartbeat, bleeding gums, sore tongue, sore throat or sore lungs - it's the nicotine.
 

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When I first started with my 510, I sucked my carts dry in a couple of minutes. I was a chain smoker, and I could go through an analog in about 2 minutes or less (down to the filter). That pace definitely did not work with carts! The taste of a dry, burned cart filler was so bad! I switched to an eGo-T to avoid these hassles. I almost never put it down, and I take a puff every minute or so, with frequent back to back puffs. I only put it down to rest when the atty gets hot. The only thing I worry about now is nicotine OD.

Sorry about the withdrawl. If you pull too hard on a 510 the atomizer will dry up the filler in the cartridge faster than it can re-charge. Hope you ordered your juice from some outfit that ships fast, like FSUSA. I did the same thing when I bought my first kit, started bouncing off the walls until I received my juice. PV'S will not perform as fast as the stinking analogs, just take a soft 5 second drag then put it down for 3 minutes so that the juice wicks its way back to the top of the filler. For that reason I bought an eGo-T where it's nearly impossible to dry the wick. I puff on mine like a pipe smoker.
 

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I appreciate all the comments. Certainly a lot more to learn. I am wondering if I will need new batteries if using the 3 ohm cartomizer, as I only have the stock batts that came with the Joye 510 kit. Perhaps the 36 mg is too high...guess I will find out soon enough.....probably ordered in the middle of a hardcore crave. I know what I have now is very weak. Is there a good way to cut it w/o cutting the flavor?
 

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Unless you are cutting with 0mg juice of the same flavor, you will be cutting the flavor too.

Don't know your exact situation, but I vaped 36mg nearly non-stop when I started.

Hopefully you don't need that, but it is an excellent idea to try various flavors and strengths when starting out. Don't know what works till ya vape it...
 

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I appreciate all the comments. Certainly a lot more to learn. I am wondering if I will need new batteries if using the 3 ohm cartomizer, as I only have the stock batts that came with the Joye 510 kit. Perhaps the 36 mg is too high...guess I will find out soon enough.....probably ordered in the middle of a hardcore crave. I know what I have now is very weak. Is there a good way to cut it w/o cutting the flavor?



In time we all learned. I bet I read threads,stickies, and anything in print for a month before I even joined. By then, I could "talk the talk" at least. I smoked for 40 years and started out at 36mg and after 4+ months am still between 24-36mg. My MAIN goal was to quit smoking. I did that on vape day #2. I will cut back on nicotine - when it happens. I just want to make sure I never desire a cigarette every again.

I almost solely use IKV cartomizers. I have used most other cartomizers and for me, IKV beats any and everything else. I get weeks and weeks out of each one. Of course, I refill them, but no big deal. For those not using or wanting to use a syringe, condom filling works quit well for me with no mess or spills. As long as I don't rush it, I can insert a cartomizer, thread down, into a condom filled with juice. As I see the juice approach the top of the carto, I just stop pushing. New ones take a bit longer since they are totally dry and will soak up a lot at first.
A low resistance carto performs on a 3.7v pv like a higher voltage pv without actually having a hv pv.

Lastly, I prefer variable voltage PV's now. It gives me the freedom to go from 3.7v to 6-7v should I desire. BUT - it is extremely rare that I EVER go over 5.5volts. My "sweet spot" seems to run around 4.6v
By the time you add up what some spend on pv's they could have bought a variable voltage(vv) mod and been done with it and not have to spend anything else on pv's unless they just plain "wanted" to.

My Buzz can be bought for $100+/-$20. I can run from 3.7 - 7.5v, so I can use L.R.(low resistance cartomizers/attys right up to high voltage ones. I have never even bought or used a high voltage carto/atty.

I wish you much luck and success....and keep reading and asking question. Before long, someone new will be asking and you will be offering assistance. :thumb:
 

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I appreciate all the comments. Certainly a lot more to learn. I am wondering if I will need new batteries if using the 3 ohm cartomizer, as I only have the stock batts that came with the Joye 510 kit. Perhaps the 36 mg is too high...guess I will find out soon enough.....probably ordered in the middle of a hardcore crave. I know what I have now is very weak. Is there a good way to cut it w/o cutting the flavor?

The 3 ohm cartomizers will work on the batteries you have. You need to go with a larger battery model to use low resistance. Try the cartos and see if that helps with your problems, then you can take some time and explore other options.
 

KY_Noob

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Thanks...I will try that out.......also went an ordered some more juice in the same flavor as the 36mg bottles I mentioned earlier, but asked for 18 and 24 mg versions as well. I wanted to be sure I was comparing the same flavors. If the lower doses work ok for me, I will definitelydillute the more powerful stuff. I heard from someone suggesting what I have is probably the weakest stuff out there, so no reason to jump all the way to the strongest. I'll also check out the cartomizers as well.
 

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Thanks...I will try that out.......also went an ordered some more juice in the same flavor as the 36mg bottles I mentioned earlier, but asked for 18 and 24 mg versions as well. I wanted to be sure I was comparing the same flavors. If the lower doses work ok for me, I will definitelydillute the more powerful stuff. I heard from someone suggesting what I have is probably the weakest stuff out there, so no reason to jump all the way to the strongest. I'll also check out the cartomizers as well.

Good luck! :)
 
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