Yeah, I figured they were the same also until I tried to put a Kanger head in the Aro. It actually screwed in but it doesn't screw in far enough.
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Yeah, I figured they were the same also until I tried to put a Kanger head in the Aro. It actually screwed in but it doesn't screw in far enough.
Oh, you mean it didn't make electrical contact at the bottom? It might just be slight difference in manufacturing; there's probably quite a few factories making 'clone' BCC atomisers;
I'm guessing if you try it the other way it would work- the head that came with your ARO might work on the Kanger?
Well, you got me thinking so I did try the Aro atty in the Kanger Ego and it did indeed fit and work. I don't know if its a "clone" issue though. I think the Aro heads just screw down further than the Kanger heads. The difference in the threads are actually visible if you look close. Theres a little more threading on the Aro heads. I figured out that the Aro replacement heads come in different ohm capacities also. They come in 2.4, 3.0 and 4.0 while the Kanger replacement heads come in 1.8, 2.2 and 2.5. Its kind of odd that the Aro heads start out at such a high ohms resistance. It is good to know that I can use the Aro heads in the Evods though.
Yes I think its just a matter of two different factories making *almost* the same thing because they are both copying an original.
Sometime those BCC atomisers don't make contact and you just have to tighten them; its not exactly a great electrical contact design.... or maybe the design is really intended for them to be longer than they are being produced right now.
Yeah, its a little surprising that two complete different companies (Kanger and Smok Tech) can put out an atty that is almost identical. You would think that Kanger would have to have a patent but maybe Smok Tech gets around this by having a slightly different thread and different ohm resistance. The threads are definitely longer on the Smok Tech heads though. In my opinion this is why the Kanger doesn't work in the Smok Tech Aro but the Smok Tech Aro works in the Kanger products. The Kanger heads just don't screw down far enough to make an electrical contact on the Aro's. I tried a few different Kanger heads in the Aro and they just don't work, no matter how hard you try to screw them down. I wish they did because I have a lot of Kanger replacement heads but I don't have any Smok Tech replacement heads. Go figure, I get to spend some more money,lol.
Nope its not surprising at all; in fact that bcc seems to be the standard; its in the interest of the manufacturers to make compatible products. Where would we be if car manufacturers used incompatible wheel rims that you put your tires on.... oh wait is that a bad example
But I imagine if you check what you call the Kanger heads, you won't see "Kanger" on it, and if you check the Smok heads you won't see "Smok" on it either.
By the way, with the two sets of BCC coils that I myself got there are a couple differences;
the one that came with the "vivi nova" has flavor wicks and I don't see the coil unless I take the flavor wicks out; the other set which came with the "protank" has an extra silicone ring, and has no flavor wicks; when I take the top off I see the coil wound on the wick. Also the top metal piece is maybe 1 or 2 millimeters longer.
So it does not surprise me that the bottom piece on some such coils might be a fraction of a milimeter longer or shorter - but unfortunately that means if it is too short, for the particular 510male end tank, it might not make physical contact with the battery - but I guess I could fix that by filing down the end of the tank- come to think of it that should also improve the airflow.
I just noticed that the place that I get my Aro's from (Hoosier Ecig) sell both heads. The Smok Tech (Aro) heads are actually slightly cheaper. The links are listed below.
Kanger EVOD heads
Bottom coil tank Heads from Smok Tech
Nope its not surprising at all; in fact that bcc seems to be the standard; its in the interest of the manufacturers to make compatible products. Where would we be if car manufacturers used incompatible wheel rims that you put your tires on.... oh wait is that a bad example
But I imagine if you check what you call the Kanger heads, you won't see "Kanger" on it, and if you check the Smok heads you won't see "Smok" on it either.
By the way, with the two sets of BCC coils that I myself got there are a couple differences;
the one that came with the "vivi nova" has flavor wicks and I don't see the coil unless I take the flavor wicks out; the other set which came with the "protank" has an extra silicone ring, and has no flavor wicks; when I take the top off I see the coil wound on the wick. Also the top metal piece is maybe 1 or 2 millimeters longer.
So it does not surprise me that the bottom piece on some such coils might be a fraction of a milimeter longer or shorter - but unfortunately that means if it is too short, for the particular 510male end tank, it might not make physical contact with the battery - but I guess I could fix that by filing down the end of the tank- come to think of it that should also improve the airflow.
That's the whole issue though, they aren't compatible. You cant use the Kanger replacement heads in the Smok Tech Aro's although you can use the Smok Tech replacement heads in the Kanger products. Yeah, I guess if you want to do some filing, that might work but it's really not something that I would want to try. My Kanger replacements are from KangerTech and they say it on the box. I cant speak for the Smok Tech because all I have is the one that came in the device. The only point that I'm trying to make is that even though the heads do look pretty much identical, they are indeed different.
yes but i believe it is more like a DEFECT/inaccuracy than a deliberate intention; I expect the intention was one manufacturer trying to duplicate an item. It can't be coincidence that they not only look alike but they even thread (almost) correctly
bottom line for you is to buy the atomiser that works in both
I don't think there is an atomizer that works for both.The bottom line in my opinion is that these are two different devices that use two different heads even though they look the same. Why would Hoosier Ecig sell both of the heads if they were the same? All I know is that the Kanger replacement heads do not work with the Smok Tech Aro's so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Have you tried the iclear 30, or 30s? They are the best clearos I have tried out of all of the ones out there!
Yup; got a point there; I'm glad I found out because the Aro was one I was thinking to buy on the assumption that it was the same head as 2 of my other tank types.
You might want to try it anyway. I like the flavor that the Aro produces a little better than the Evods but both are better than the protanks in my opinion.
No I haven't but I like the long wick design and have considered trying it out. How do you like it as far as flavor and do you ever get a burnt taste? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews on these tanks but that seems to be the case with just about everything. Thanks ahead of time.
I think if they wanted it to exactly duplicate another item, the threading would match. It's not that hard for them to duplicate threading.
As for the "buy the one that works with both", if the threading is different, then one atomizer isn't going to work with both, so you should buy an atomizer to match the tank you're going to put it in.
You missed this part:
The heads that came with the "Smok" worked with both tanks.
Like I tried to explain, its not so much that they are different, but that the attempt to duplicate was not precise enough, that is all; whether that attempt was on just the heads or whether it was Kanger or Smok using a threading from one another or from some other previous system.
Sometimes you head doesnt work and you just tighten it a tenth of a turn and it makes contact. It's cheaper to make the thing as short as possible but just a fraction of a millimeter too short and you don't make electrical contact.
That part I "missed" starts with "they aren't compatible" and ends with "they are indeed different."
I'll stick with my "buy the right part" theory.
I'll stick with my "buy the right part" theory.
The only good thing about the new dual coil heads is that you can replace them with the old single coil ones. If they were not compatible, I would have gotten rid of the PT3 a week after I got it. I was an early adopter, ordering from the first batch, and was sad. Of course, I like it now, especially since I can rebuild the heads. I might try my hand at homemade dual coil heads at some point, but for now, I just replace the standard flavor wick with cotton balls and am as happy as a clam.
I was experimenting with that ; boiled a cotton ball, then tryed to make a wick out of it; then just tryed to plant it over the top of the coil.
- So you dont actually interfere with the coil itself right? Just replacing the flavour wick that is on the top?
- And do you like try to stretch the cotton into a wick shape or do you just stuff it in the space over the coil?
I was thinking to stuff one side of the coil and leave the other side for airflow.
I can taste the cotton; it doesn't taste terribly toxic; but I do wish I could be more confident about inhaling from cotton on hot coil.
Yeah, that's the whole point that I was trying to make, per: "I don't think there is an atomizer that works for both. The bottom line in my opinion is that these are two different devices that use two different heads even though they look the same".
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